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By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 12:38
pm me bullets i will independently adjudicate Laugh
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 12:39
oops...it looks like the tipping line has fallen flat on its arse at the 1st (lowest level) scrutiny
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 12:45
Done addy
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 12:52
fair play i can confirm bill has sent me a couple of dogs for hove later. i'll say if the dog has won or lost AFTER the race (i dont know bill!!!)
By:
gonna knock u out
When: 12 Feb 16 12:54
Fair play Bill, good luck Happy
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 12:54
the suspense is killing me Plain
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 12:58
lol wonders go easy, im still ROFL at woody telling fattie he hasnt had many winners Crazy
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 13:02
I'm enjoying it addy...its livened this place up a bit Grin

and yeah that was another absolute classic from the great man...I'd say it was the post of the year but I'm more inclined to think it was the post of many a year Laugh
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 14:06
FFS BETFAIR ONLY ASKED WHAT PERCENTAGE PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR!
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 14:12
what?
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 14:14
I wrote a post saying basically what people would be looking for percentage of winners wise and they fecking removed it! wa nkers
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 14:17
dont measure it on that, measure it on percentage of turnover. 40% of even money chances is ****, 40% at 3/1 is brilliant. if i stake a grand over 10 bets and return 1200 all in im delighted to take 20% of my money, most pro's would love 5% of turnover.
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 14:24
Ok thanks addy im confident I could do that but proofs in the pudding.
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 14:37
strike rate means feck all unless your head gets screwed by losing runs

betting too many thin dogs like that stayer at brough the other night will batter your ROI...that's not a criticism addy just making a general point
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 14:52
First bet was ballymac loops was advised as a place bet as I could see there being a pace battle up front kept running up the arse of the 4 dog and think finished 4th 5th not beaten far for the money.
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 14:59
wonders i made delano 4/6 and maeby 1/2. bet the first 11/10 for a few grand and same for maeby at evens. both instances they were 1.50 on here at the off. not often i like betting short ones i agree, but to my eyes the other night i had absolute stacks of value. even on other nights goings still cant say whether i was right or wrong the race wasnt run a thousand times.
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 15:00
still a 5% return on those two bets pro target Laugh
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 15:13
they were good bets addy defo

my point was the more you play dogs at those prices the more your ROI will be battered
for example betting @ 1/5 about something that goes off @ 1/9 is a 'good' bet but earning 20% 9/10 and losing your stake 1/10 that's an ROI 8% (great) but for a lot of risk compared to say if you bet big prices Happy
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 15:30
perhaps, i look at it 5% of 8 grand is more than 10% of 1k, which split two ways, a monkey each, is probably what id have on a 5, 6/1 chance. i couldnt get 4k at 5/1 if i wanted to, some look at it that ive gone outside a staking plan, 200 a point etc, its not about that, its about the market being more liquid around an even money chance and so youd have an awful lot more because 5% of 8 grand (cumulative total those dogs) is a lot more than 10% of a grand (cumulative total of a monkey staked at 5/1 2 dogs for an example).

big punters that bet big because they like ego and flash cash is muggy, recognising that 5% of a grand is a lot more than 5% of a fiver, is not.
By:
irishone
When: 12 Feb 16 16:36
80% at 3/1 will do me , this time next year we will be millionaires Rodney.

9.3% here in Jan but 3% down in feb , sh1t happens  Cry
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 17:44
perhaps, i look at it 5% of 8 grand is more than 10% of 1k, which split two ways, a monkey each, is probably what id have on a 5, 6/1 chance. i couldnt get 4k at 5/1 if i wanted to, some look at it that ive gone outside a staking plan, 200 a point etc, its not about that, its about the market being more liquid around an even money chance and so youd have an awful lot more because 5% of 8 grand (cumulative total those dogs) is a lot more than 10% of a grand (cumulative total of a monkey staked at 5/1 2 dogs for an example)

salient points addy
perfectly valid imo to accept a lower ROI with higher turnover in exchange for a higher ROI with lower turnover
By:
Addy_D
When: 12 Feb 16 17:51
try explaining this to woody Cry
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 18:00
2nd bet in the last at hove like the 2 dog
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 18:09
Got 5s 365
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 18:09
try explaining anything to woody
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 18:14
Ran ok thought it might pick up better going down the back cue the slagging off! Cry
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 18:17
why would you be slagged off??

just put the dogs up on here beforehand (with reasons) and you will be treated like every1 else
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 18:18
betting losers is not the end of the world, me and doc have been doing it for years
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 18:23
yes but your not asking money to do it! Im just hard on myself I don't like anybody losing!
By:
Billbullets
When: 12 Feb 16 18:23
yes but your not asking money to do it! Im just hard on myself I don't like anybody losing!
By:
wondersobright
When: 12 Feb 16 18:29
nobody on here will be giving you any money hth
By:
Billbullets
When: 13 Feb 16 21:38
Today at 9:36 PM 







Fancy a dog tomorrow in the last at henlow trap 5 mays fiddlefaddle




Shes bred to stay and has 30:22 at notts and she will love this step up imo




shes 7/2 with 365 which I think will be alot shorter  come race time the favourites to be respected but if she gets in front I think she can hold him
By:
Billbullets
When: 13 Feb 16 21:39
Heres one for free, hope it pays off! Silly
By:
Deptford
When: 13 Feb 16 22:02
Piss off
By:
Addy_D
When: 13 Feb 16 23:10
ROFL deptford Laugh
By:
gonna knock u out
When: 13 Feb 16 23:56
Will turn behind 1 who in my opinion leads but doesn't stay this trip great and 3 who again I don't think stays this trip great. I've played Mays at 4/1 with paddies as too big. Should lead Sid and hopefully turn third and then get first run at the front runners and if getting a clear run it's a big runner in my opinion.
By:
Billbullets
When: 14 Feb 16 00:40
Fair play on the 4s gko 365 were first to go up and i thought 7/2 was too big but 4s is lovely! See it similar to you and trip should see her improve further as the mother has thrown a few good staying dogs, gordons alive etc etc.
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Feb 16 01:01
4s with paddy pishy
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Feb 16 01:02
It aint a Great Start tbh Advised at 7-2  Then Powers go 4 Happy
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Feb 16 01:10
That run by Sid to pick up Michel was a Decent run ,She Certainly gets 550, I was surprised he got to her Plain Dont Know your Dog ,G luck
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