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By:
woodmanchester
When: 14 Sep 15 08:22
Belle Vue
By:
miss.wales
When: 14 Sep 15 09:26
My information is that the decision has already been made and it's Hall Green.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 14 Sep 15 10:04
Do Hall Green know what an open race is?
By:
irishone
When: 14 Sep 15 10:46
That will be handier Miss Wales, M1/M6 traffic jam far closer than the M25 gridlock
By:
miss.wales
When: 14 Sep 15 13:18
Absolutely true Irish, geographically it's much fairer than Saaf London.

Furthermore it's not a $hithole like Wimbledon and excepting the second bend, which needs some getting used to for wide runners, it's now a much better shaped track.

The big big big big issue is that it's still under the control of Clive Feltham, who is greyhound racing's number one enemy. No one in power has the balls to bring him to task and until they do the sport will always be on the back foot.
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Sep 15 20:19
Same question been asked for the last 15 years
By:
Ravage Again
When: 14 Sep 15 20:29
I reckon it should be pelaw grange

It's an upgrade to Wimbledon
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Sep 15 22:29
Laugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Sep 15 00:34
If it was down to starters...imo Belle Vue would be in pole position WoodyMischief
By:
sparrow
When: 15 Sep 15 08:50
Off subject but I noticed the other day that Sittingbourne now have handicap racing. How long has this been going on?
The first in the South since Crayford had them over the 540 trip.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 15 Sep 15 10:21
Doncaster is the next best running track in the country. I'm surprised W'don is sl@gged off so much. While the facilities leave a lot to be desired, the track size, configuration and  length of run to the 1st bend are superb! I'll happily put up with poor facilities while the actual running track is so good. There are very, very few properly designed Greyhound tracks left in this country.
By:
miss.wales
When: 15 Sep 15 11:51
Stow

The run to the bend and the long straights are good - the track seems narrower now than was previously the case (that may be an illusion because of where we are forced to watch from) but the main problem is the bends, particularly the old first bend, which is simply too sharp for 6 dogs to get round safely, even in pairs!

It goes without saying that had Paschal got his way, which now looks a forlorn hope, the whole track would have been re-shaped.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 15 Sep 15 13:22
The racing at the last 2 Derby's appeared pretty clean to me.

While I have not been to some of these tracks

Wimbledon & Doncaster Much the best running tracks in the country
Romford/Crayford/Harlow/Sunderland/Pelaw/Pboro/Poole etc too sharp, not proper racing
Hove/Notts tracks too big. Standard distance too far after years of breeding for speed. Shorter 4 bend trip = too short a run to the bend
Newcastle Ridiculous camera angle prevents me from forming an opinion of the track
Monmomre - Watched plenty of races from there and don't like the gaff too much. Can't put my finger on why
Sittingbourne - looks ok on video, but the track looks a bit big for a significant number of Greyhounds
Hall Green The lighting looks very poor on video. Not been there
Swindon Poor track configuration. 480m trip start far too close to the bend
Towcester Run too short to the corner. Apparent significant rails bias
Henlow 5 bends and a bit sharp.
Yarmouth - been a couple of times, the track does not seem well configured.

As you can see, I don't enjoy the Greyhound racing anywhere near as much as I once did! I only really enjoy the racing from Wimbledon & Doncaster.
I still go to Romford ca. twice per month. The social side of it is still fun.
By:
wondersobright
When: 15 Sep 15 13:27
if they really wanted to they could create a new 480 trip at hove which is at or just in front the 515 traps but bring the winning line closer to the traps...would be excellent imo
By:
lil
When: 15 Sep 15 14:00
hall green worst running track in the country
By:
miss.wales
When: 15 Sep 15 15:52
lil

I don't really know what that means.

Surely you wouldn't say it was worse in any aspect than say Kinsley, Sun'land or Peterborough for example?
By:
wondersobright
When: 15 Sep 15 16:05
the surface at sunderland is pretty good nowadays
the ground during the festival was dire but has been excellent either side during the summer...so what does that tell you about the owners Plain
as for the bends the graded racing is generally clean otherwise I wouldn't be playing at the track
and open race dogs that don't have a trial (or preferably 2) what's that saying about fail to prepare...
By:
miss.wales
When: 16 Sep 15 09:15
wonders

What about the third bend?

It is simply impossible for the dog on the inside to get round without checking if there's another dog anywhere from 2 yards ahead to level with it.

It's like the Bermuda Triangle - the inside runner disappears off the screen.
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Sep 15 11:17
yes its tricky on the inside, notts 3rd bend is tricky too, wimbledon, peterborough...quite a few other tracks imo

puts a premium on bend running at sunderland defo but impossible?? cant have that

if you want to watch a masterclass have a look through some of the vids of a dog called olympic money...top grade snail and rail who is 1 of my fav dogs at the track right now

you will see in a lot of his races he normally comes with his run into the 3rd bend and is goldilocks round the bend (not too fast but not jamming brakes on either...perfect for sun)

easy to blame the track imo but I prefer to be more critical of dogs who regularly make mistakes as the ones who don't are where the rewards are Love
By:
mint
When: 16 Sep 15 16:03
If you suggest using Doncaster for the Derby they will have to put an inside rail in front of the 480 traps  to stop dogs running through the gap at the start.
By:
miss.wales
When: 17 Sep 15 10:46
Wonders

Easy to blame the track imo but I prefer to be more critical of dogs who regularly make mistakes as the ones who don't are where the rewards are.

I don't blame you for taking financial advantage of the idiosyncratic nature of a track like Sunderland but when dogs which can safely overcome that kink are the exception rather than the rule, it sort of makes my point that the track is not really fit for purpose.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 17 Sep 15 10:48
Newcastle - that'll be a mental weekend away GrinDevil
By:
woodmanchester
When: 17 Sep 15 11:11
GRA got the monopoly on the Derby
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Sep 15 11:55

Sep 17, 2015 -- 10:46AM, miss.wales wrote:


WondersEasy to blame the track imo but I prefer to be more critical of dogs who regularly make mistakes as the ones who don't are where the rewards are.I don't blame you for taking financial advantage of the idiosyncratic nature of a track like Sunderland but when dogs which can safely overcome that kink are the exception rather than the rule, it sort of makes my point that the track is not really fit for purpose.


not fit for purpose is harsh miss wales, no track is perfect

I could have listed plenty of railers that run sunderland really well but didn't for obvious reasons...

By:
miss.wales
When: 17 Sep 15 17:12
Woody

GRA got the monopoly on the Derby


I'll discuss this with you over the weekend but who are the GRA?
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Sep 15 22:36
PF=Newcastle - that'll be a mental weekend away
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Sep 15 22:36
Haway the Lads Hup the toon Laugh
By:
DroopysGregKinkysNap
When: 17 Sep 15 23:28
Ricky told me last week it will be Walthamstow.
By:
DroopysGregKinkysNap
When: 17 Sep 15 23:30
Nanny i am in toon on Saturday, not sure if staying over yet.
By:
casemoney
When: 18 Sep 15 16:18
Shocked what you doing tom ?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 18 Sep 15 16:58
No good unless going to see a Geordie bird with big knockers! LaughWink
By:
worldcitizen
When: 18 Sep 15 17:31
Not amusing Woodmanchester , when it comes to your knockers they all say the same , t i t  !
By:
woodmanchester
When: 18 Sep 15 19:15
Only joking World Citizen. I dont take offence when all the women call me Uncle Fester! Laugh
By:
worldcitizen
When: 19 Sep 15 16:13
Only joking ? Really ? More like pathetic penile comedy from a punjent dickless fool!
By:
track record
When: 19 Sep 15 17:50
my back garden

i wouldnt have to travel far and
mrs tr would put a buffet on Excited

plus i could charge a few grand for b and b

Laugh
By:
track record
When: 19 Sep 15 17:51
youd deffo get a beer from my kitchen quicker than

youd get served at wimbo


but please no floaters in the loo
By:
boosup
When: 20 Sep 15 12:17
what was the first derby winner when Wimbledon turned its track around?
By:
irishone
When: 20 Sep 15 14:08
ask birchy Mischief
By:
miss.wales
When: 22 Sep 15 10:25
Wimbledon have cancelled Friday's meeting - just a one-off apparently.
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