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By:
woodmanchester
When: 17 Feb 14 09:40
4/5 Hometown Honey should prove very hard to beat, got her much shorter than that. Ought to prove too speedy for her rivals and stays. Doubt very much Sidarian Jaguar will lead again and will find it tough pegging back Honey. Remains to be seen what Shanless Becky would do with a clear run but gets behind, has no trackcraft around this tight circuit and looks sure to run into the back of rivals again, a second slower than Honey split times alone in semis. Lenson Pele needs a flier but even so, unlikely to keep going, imo. Midway Nick seems held and Boltatwelldigger doesn't look quite up to the class.

Got 16/1 Shanless Becky and 33/1 Boltatwelldigger, both each-way antepost but think the place money, first 3, best to hope for. Becky would be a big payday but needs luck and Digger has a verdict over Jaguar but not sure to confirm the form.

Good luck!
By:
Catford Toteboard
When: 17 Feb 14 19:09
I could do with Honey being shorter on here as I have her at 7s and would like to lay off a bit. Also have 25s EW Nick. Not sure about the draw for him now. I love Becky's determination but she does seem to find trouble. Is a great final and very happy to have got my two through and will concentrate on the supporting races now. The maxi marathon should be interesting!
Glad to hear Sharies Miller is ok; looked worse than it was.
By:
Czechbet
When: 17 Feb 14 19:58
good draw for Nick imo catford, i think he could be fair value at 12s plus on a level track, we all have to remember honey is no angel if the 4 got close early be interesting to how they both reacted to one another.. then 5 becomes a big runner aswell
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 17 Feb 14 20:28
I'm on honey 12s and 8s
she run runs that 1st bend awful 
She had two pretty straight forward heats
now she as jaguar and pele I think nick got a great draw
Irish bitch wants just that bit more !
Hope to lay bottle off cheer her home !
Got me eye on two others !
By:
woodmanchester
When: 18 Feb 14 06:18
Money for Becky. Into 5/1 now, hope it's inspired cash. I did estimate she lost 7 lengths and impetus in running during the semis but still feel Honey needs to be below par for a big payday
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 18 Feb 14 10:42
How do people see the race going?  I think that Mick and Pele having inner boxes scuppers their chances. Digger fluffed his lines in the semi but can still do some damage here - like hampering the two inside and hogging the run up to the first bend.
Jaguar has run well so far but this inner box is a test - difficult to foresee how he'll box and run. If he can share the lead coming out of the second he has every chance.  Becky has run so well to make it but finding trouble at Crayford is becoming her norm, and is a huge handicap.  With a clear run she wins for me, but is most unlikely to get one. She powers into these bends though and needs a clear run around the first and second to make hay around the third and fourth.  If she makes the back straight second time around in third spot the two in front will need to be at their very best to hold on. However it is all "ifs" with her isn't it?! Honey has a fantastic draw and has never been better. To win this she has to complete a four timer but she is so much more consistent these days.  She has shown that she can do it from the front or come from off the early pace, so has to be taken to win but the Irish took this last year and with pace like that are a big threat!?
Anyone?
By:
Czechbet
When: 18 Feb 14 11:07
midway nick will not suffer from this draw at all imo honcho be on likely worst of the ground if wet tho?

its possible becky be so outpaced wont find trouble early this time just sit in last and hope the race gets run slow, 6&4 taking an interest in one another rather than concentrating on the job, imo that itself is no big price if they are within a length of each other at any point

not had a bet yet will wait to see ground conditions

wish sidaz dippy had back run nick in semi's, 4th fastest time of semi's didn't make final and would have had some make up..oh well
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 18 Feb 14 11:08
12 lengths to make up on Honey from semi times
51/2 from the first rd times, that's bit of running to do in my book + honey waiting to break down she tip top form befor she breaks into season (the two times you follow a bitch just befor and 15 weeks out)!
If this was say Coventry I'd say she have chance ! It's crayford
Out in front is where u want to be !
Is honey 4-5 poke no! way to short
5/4 more like it
The effort the track put into makeing fair in this weather
Been outstanding (why can't it be the norm ?)
Like taking from trees per jacket 6 had nice strip ! Run up !
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 19 Feb 14 07:15
Thanks for the insight guys.  Every opinion helps in the make-up of opinion, if you see what I mean.  I hear that Honey going into season is no longer a kennel worry.
By:
irishone
When: 19 Feb 14 07:34
What if Becky suddenly gets out a bit sharpish ? (you heard it here first Laugh)
By:
Czechbet
When: 20 Feb 14 09:09
prob best she doesn't irish imo, would still be outpaced but more chance of running into trouble

if your on 5 you just want honey to have a piggy day Surprised
By:
woodmanchester
When: 20 Feb 14 10:00
Well, here's hoping. Re-Peter Bussey, had a nice bet Sharies Miller at 12/1 but ko'd when disputing the lead at the bend, race void and never ran in the re-run. No interest betting-wise in that event for me now Sad
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 20 Feb 14 11:28
ON THE BRIDGE 6/4 bussey

can see all the field going up bridge rail them off + hes 4 from 4 at crayford
By:
lockup
When: 20 Feb 14 17:29
spoke to the trainer of nick he says no chance from that trap says theres a real bias towards the outside.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 20 Feb 14 18:04
Of what I've seen past few weeks it been pretty even spread!
Again today !
By:
Czechbet
When: 20 Feb 14 18:14
its been relentless mid to wide last few months, its graded on it now so that's why looks reasonable on graded results
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 07:31
Holding each-way tickets of 8/1 and 16/1 Shanless Becky and 33/1 Boltatwelldigger, it could be a big payday, but really think Hometown Honey got one paw on the Jacket already. Think they've been guessing at the going allowances but Honey deffo got a few lengths in hand on the clock. Will be very surprised if nearest danger Sidarian Jaguar shows early again in this hotter final and Becky got a mountain to climb, set to get behind and run into trouble, yet again. Just hoping for the place money with her and Digger. Lenson Pele and Midway Nick make it a good looking final on paper but think there's only going to be one winner.

Got each-way outsiders for the hurdles and Peter Bussey, waiting for all to price up, but wouldn't want to be touching the Maxi Marathon.

Good luck!
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 22 Feb 14 07:37
Digger, Jaguar and Honey only need to share similar early speed for a crunch to hamper them all around first and second.  If that happens, Becky will have a great chance.  All she needs is one clear run round an early bend - preferably first and second, to secure a run.  She has pace to burn and I've never seen any dog power into the Crayford bends like she does.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 22 Feb 14 08:05
Musical fawn 100/30 3/1
Bridge bandit 6/4
Honey 12/1 8/1
Getting myself ready for day well morning on the piss
At crayford !!!!
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:08
Obviously, will need some luck but 25/1 apiece Westmead Charlot and Aero Jimenez in the Chief Ramsbottom hurdle and Peter Bussey respectively, both each-way. You may say I need my bumps feeling, but Charlot ahead of much shorter Stellars Blue at Sittingbourne last time and that run doesn't put her that far behind a principal contender Lollylips. Also considering Mash Mad Snowy left the money in the satchels with a badly troubled run when last over course and distance and hurdle racing the most unpredictable of disciplines, just taking the race for what it is.

In the case of Jimenez, can start well, lacks a yard or two of pace, but comes again. Crowded last time and about 4 lengths to find with warm fav and reigning champion Bridge Bandit may not be insurmountable, very low risk at that price anyway.

Oh well, know said wouldn't like to touch Maxi Marathon but didn't think Em Millie as short as evens (lay) and Lady Belle as big as 12/1 (play, each-way.)

Good luck!
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:09
Have fun, Fatty! Happy. Don't forget to come home for the racing at Shelbourne tonight! Laugh
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:10
nobody has been guessing the going allowances woody stop being a simpleton Whoops

nothing ante post but betting nick and plenty of dogs up the inside today, got faith from results of last few races last night Love

midway nick got better times than honey round coventry and wimbledon 6 bends and a nice make up inside 2 who could take the field out? 12s too big win or lose imo
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:14
Nick's trainer said he got no chance I heard on RPGTV?
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:15
because of the ground he has witnessed, he knows fck all about crayford the rest of the time
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:16
Okay Czech. Personally, I like Nick as a dog but cant lead Pele and may struggle, imo
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:16
trainers only know there own dogs, you think they watch videos of other runners and do there own going allowances, thats a full time job in itself let alone looking after loads of dogs
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:18
its not about if he leads pele, pele will move off and likely finish last imo cant do the times

i'll have a match if you like nick v pele ?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:18
No ta, but think it's all academic. Honey wins
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:22
come outside the box woody, you might actually win some £

gl
By:
Deptford
When: 22 Feb 14 08:27
Evens Millie looks a steal
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:38
Do you think so Deptford. I find over that kind of distance, dogs can get their second wind and anything could happen?
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:45
wrong again woody lol

inside dogs would have fair chances first few graded races level track, so good acid test on the ground for the big races later on

its crayford tho nothing would surprise me could be 5 lengths quicker wide yet again... yawn
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:46
Think I need to go back to school! Laugh
By:
Deptford
When: 22 Feb 14 08:49
I cant see it being beat for the life of me, out now to watch it all, good luck to everyone
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:50
Safe journey
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:50
we have all tried to help you, try thinking before typing Wink

midway nick on the spreads total value @7

going low also.... come on rails give them a bit of life for a change
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 08:51
gl all
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 08:54
Cant, I act on impulse. Black or white to me, sometimes Wink
By:
Czechbet
When: 22 Feb 14 09:04
pele a non runner according to betfair?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Feb 14 09:11
Yeah, trap vac. 365 already re-formed the market
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