Name one big gun to go out this round

I think loads will go

Lemon Pluto - cheerio

kereight king as bonamassa will be trying tonight.

lol, looked rubbish last week didnt he?

I agree with pf.
Tyrur Sugar Ray could go as he always gives himself loads to do. Maybe not tonight though.

I do not think Ballymac Vic is invincible. He got a charmed run to the bend in the 1st round. Again, he's not going tonight, but I can see him finding trouble on the run to the bend in the comp at some stage.

I thought Droopys Loner chucked in a bit last time and might not want too many middle draws.

Teejays Bluehawk is not always going to find his way through from well off the pace.

Is all well with Droopys Jet? He came home well enough, but didn't show a lot is the 1st half of the race.

Eske has a question mark over him. He can't break like he did in the 1st round and always get away with him. Rodge didn't even give him the expected dig in the 1st round.

How's Shaneboy Alley after his 1st round tumble? It's anyone's guess whether he'll run to his best in the 2nd round.

How's the brilliant Eden Star going to hold up on the durability front? f knows!

Jaytee Hellcat is not a trapper and not one I'd want to take a short price about.

I know some people don't wanna hear this but lemon pluto is dead if he's led up by 2 in his heat

think eden star might be in trouble, stacks of early in his race and an average break like last week will see him have a rough ride around the first imo

not sure there is quite the depth in his heat for him not to qualify but I agree addy he's no good thing with that make up he's got

Addy got one right this weekend.

meow DML

Hope it is taken it in the spirit intended.

I havent got much right about the entire event.

K king sorry pf    Pilot   Kills me to say it but think loner is in for rough ride only a ping will do
F Chico.  H George (lol). F buddy and s crash.     hellcat    Holdem and  alley. :-)

Droopys Jet - draw simple as
Shaneboy Spencer - take a chance Billy could lead him and then with the strong runners he could be vulnerabe
Money Talks - needs a flier in my opinion
Farloe Warhawk - loads of pace on the inside, may not clear
Shaneboy Alley - if Bittles Bar traps as it has don't see Alley leading

lol DMl cheers mate. actually backed 3 of the last 4 winners saturday but for shrapnel and still lost a little on the night but big over the weekend.

still, saturday, another day.

Agree with Flappy and PF, Kereight and Jet. Think Skate On will be coming across Kereight and very hard for Jet to get a pitch near inner wearing the butcher's apron.

Dont worry about Loner Flappy. Still think she's good for another round, remember how far she nearly went last year. Must have a squeak to qualify anyway. Also got Knockglass and Spencer antepost, very happy if two get through.

Airlie would pay very large for me to small stake antepost. 6/1 quite generous for his heat?

Slightly worried about Warhawk and Alley.

Got one but keeping powder dry until all priced up for Saturday

think shaneboy alley is very vulnerable, will be tough for him to lead rodge + bittles bar will be a big hazard early on

Droopys Jet will be out by Wednesday morning NAP

Vic due another missed break, probrably Saturday or Tuesday

wearing the butcher's apron.

woody out of interest how many dogs did you back antepost in the end? not being funny genuine question.

he had two quid on airlie impact at 159-1 and that was one of his biggest winners !

i backed 150 - still odds on not to have the winner

pf.  and another 50 didnt enter.

Addy, only 4 to win good money, by my standards. Eske, Warhawk, Eden and Airlie, with the latter just £2.50 to win £400. Others i've backed generally only win treble my total stakes antepost. Been backing since last year and gives me an interest throughout Derby month

ok. i only bet two, longwood warrior now out and tango at 50s night before the competition, im a sucker for the dog i am huge fan of his pace just wish he was straight forward

woody's nose growing ?

woodmanchester • May 24, 2013 7:57 PM BST
Top 10, in order of largest payout:
Eske, 50
Eden, 40
Warhawk, 33
Sky, 50
Airlie, 159
Billy, 40
Bonamassa, 100
Mags, 100
Alley, 40
Barracuda, 66

Plus ……  “One or two others for coppers to keep me interested for 5 rounds before the final”

Can you really win money backing so many runners "to keep an interest" in one event ?

By the time you get to the final, there are only six dogs left, you are far better informed about their chances after the earlier rounds and you do not have to run the risk of not having an interest in the final at all.

Woody is only in it for fun, there are a lot of good judges on here that are in it for the money.

I can see why the fahys aren't really happy about TSR's draw on Saturday. It has shown in the past it can come from behind and win but it could face some challenge coming from behind on Saturday. Its best hope is either trouble outside  or a ping. If it pings it could lead and then its all over and the clock would be under threat, but what are the chances of that ?  . Looks like trouble outside is its best hope especially with missy coming across as well ! Time to green up .

I can't.

think the draw is spot on irish, jet dont want 6 it wont lead skate on as long as she dont miss a break and will KK trap from 4? Im struggling to see a scenario where jet gets across and leads the race, i think TSR will be ahead of bluehawk at the bend and bluehawk was stepping right from 3 so wont be turning left from 2. given i think at least 2 of the outside 3 come together, i think he will be in prime position to track round handy a bit like the other night.

Irish, you must mean Fahy's being unhappy being drawn with those other good hounds in same race rather than the draw in 1.

Ive always thought TSR, Vic and Madison are the three fastest across Eng & Ireland, I dont know the exact rules but if it's what it says on the tin, then those that back Vic at 12's and Eske at 14's to break clock in 3rd round wont be too happy with Sugar Ray in the first heat if he pings and gets clear....his back straight pace the other day was exceptional albeit his time was slow, but we all know on a track he has adjusted too he could break clock...tho I dont think he is suited by Don as SPK

sod it, going in again. dog is a 13-8 chance with me. Mind I am 11-8 the other 5

I thought Tyrur Sugar Ray as impressive as it looked first time the more i watch it the more i think the race totally fell apart. The 2 looks like he was hardly chasing it at all to me and was coming together with 4 around the 1st 2 bends allowing Sugar Ray to close right up. The 2 moves off into the back straight first of all coming together with 4 again and then with the 5 dog leaving a huge hole along the fence for Sugar Ray which he flew through. Then the dogs behind 2 get held up more by him between the last 2 bends.

Prem, on top form on a fast surface in a solo trial or race presumably you think Sugar Ray could do clock at SPK over say 575yds, do  you think he could do same at Wdon 480m?

He has already gone inside the 575y clock at SPK in a trial last year after the Derby

At Wimbledon i'm not sure to be honest, i'd say no. He got a solo last week and only clocked 28.72, yes on what many perceive a slow track but not 65 spots slow. Yes he can trap a lot better at times than he has yet but he is still limited to the corner i'd say and i can't see him leading around in races unless others get into carnage on the run up.

I agree. I also think he must have red, two at worst. I couldnt have him ap due to that, the same as KK (that we disagree on). I do think this race offers such an oppertunity and he is unlikely to get such a lovely draw inside a rival so slow early (and moving off). Wion or not, and I really, really hope he does, the price is very wrong and based on Jets run last time, to which this race bears absolutely no resemblence.

GL

I dont think Wdon is for him to get speed up and keep it redlined.

I do think though, in Saturday's particular race make up IF 4&5 tangle he could lead round,

however Wdon track is funny at moment/last year, you only have to think about Farloe Ironman last year doing a length outside clock in  Derby SF last year when in previous races he's looked nothing more than decent grader..so on that basis on normal or +10 going with a ping and clear I'd not be shocked to see him do clock, if 100% fit

I think skate on go bingo myself
she got 20 yds further last week than round one
she's getting close to that magic mark 16weeks !

jet in six not for me not on Irish form anyway
king thought it be setting the place alight that ain't  happened only had two runs but
I just thought 28.40 every rd type dog
think the outsider get in the way inside pair IMO
skate on at a price!

I agree that the race fell apart the other night PF totally - but for me I still think judging this race on its merit he has a great make up without reading much into the other night. like swayne it wouldnt actually shock me if he did turn very close to the pace in this race given the makeup outside, i think turning infront of bluehawk is going to be the key to the bet to be honest unless KK or Jet do ping clear and lead up

Spot on Swayne, the fear is he will have too many in front of him to get past, he got the rail in round 1 and then moved more middle into the bend, this allowed 1 back up his inside, so he's not out and out rails at the track currently. TSR,TJBH  and missy may be coming together at the bend, at which point he should be on their inside with the outside three in front of them. So unless he finally uses his start he's going to have to get past at least two of them to qualify with TJBH up his r s . Makes me larf, the whole of glan feels its a s4ite draw and PJ goes on record saying he's happy with it !

Of course PJ is happy with the draw

Sugar Ray wants rails - he has got rails

Sugar Ray doesn't want pace up beside him - Sugar Ray doesn't have pace up beside him


I'd be happy with the draw if i was on Sugar Ray

Sugar Ray has an absolute plot draw. Couldn't have wished for better imo.

Cant understand the so called 'experts' on here saying anything different.

Quite baffling.

its not the box its who he is in with that is the worry

Doesnt really bother me and i'm on A.Post.

Looks likely to hold T2 to the bend and from there should qualify.

5 leads (clear) ... 6 turns 2nd ... 3 and 4 coming together would be nice (and likely) 1 holds 2 to the bend and turns in front of that. The rest means either 1 will beat 6 or vice versa

Kilara Missy on the clock leads one and two to the bend no?
thought she wants rails no? shes defo a thorn in the inside ass

I'm sure kilara missy will be able to go with kereight king and skate on to the bend, just take it from there really

Kereight King will rape Kilara Missy to the corner if he comes away at all

I know that PF I was being sarcastic after those interviews with connections saying she'll match droopys loner to the bend in the 2nd round

we do but 3 move rails kipper one and two

whoopsie

Missy is leniently priced 100/1, will finish unsighted, regardless of that dismissive price. Told you 9/4 Loner for top bitch, the bet!