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I think loads will go
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Lemon Pluto - cheerio
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kereight king as bonamassa will be trying tonight.
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lol, looked rubbish last week didnt he?
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I agree with pf.
Tyrur Sugar Ray could go as he always gives himself loads to do. Maybe not tonight though. I do not think Ballymac Vic is invincible. He got a charmed run to the bend in the 1st round. Again, he's not going tonight, but I can see him finding trouble on the run to the bend in the comp at some stage. I thought Droopys Loner chucked in a bit last time and might not want too many middle draws. Teejays Bluehawk is not always going to find his way through from well off the pace. Is all well with Droopys Jet? He came home well enough, but didn't show a lot is the 1st half of the race. Eske has a question mark over him. He can't break like he did in the 1st round and always get away with him. Rodge didn't even give him the expected dig in the 1st round. How's Shaneboy Alley after his 1st round tumble? It's anyone's guess whether he'll run to his best in the 2nd round. How's the brilliant Eden Star going to hold up on the durability front? f knows! Jaytee Hellcat is not a trapper and not one I'd want to take a short price about. |
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I know some people don't wanna hear this
but lemon pluto is dead if he's led up by 2 in his heat |
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think eden star might be in trouble, stacks of early in his race and an average break like last week will see him have a rough ride around the first imo
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not sure there is quite the depth in his heat for him not to qualify but I agree addy he's no good thing with that make up he's got
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Addy got one right this weekend.
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meow DML |
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Hope it is taken it in the spirit intended.
I havent got much right about the entire event. |
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K king sorry pf Pilot Kills me to say it but think loner is in for rough ride only a ping will do
F Chico. H George (lol). F buddy and s crash. hellcat Holdem and alley. :-) |
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Droopys Jet - draw simple as
Shaneboy Spencer - take a chance Billy could lead him and then with the strong runners he could be vulnerabe Money Talks - needs a flier in my opinion Farloe Warhawk - loads of pace on the inside, may not clear Shaneboy Alley - if Bittles Bar traps as it has don't see Alley leading |
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lol DMl cheers mate. actually backed 3 of the last 4 winners saturday but for shrapnel and still lost a little on the night but big over the weekend.
still, saturday, another day. |
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Agree with Flappy and PF, Kereight and Jet. Think Skate On will be coming across Kereight and very hard for Jet to get a pitch near inner wearing the butcher's apron.
Dont worry about Loner Flappy. Still think she's good for another round, remember how far she nearly went last year. Must have a squeak to qualify anyway. Also got Knockglass and Spencer antepost, very happy if two get through. Airlie would pay very large for me to small stake antepost. 6/1 quite generous for his heat? Slightly worried about Warhawk and Alley. Got one but keeping powder dry until all priced up for Saturday |
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think shaneboy alley is very vulnerable, will be tough for him to lead rodge + bittles bar will be a big hazard early on
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Droopys Jet will be out by Wednesday morning NAP
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Vic due another missed break, probrably Saturday or Tuesday
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wearing the butcher's apron.
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woody out of interest how many dogs did you back antepost in the end? not being funny genuine question.
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he had two quid on airlie impact at 159-1 and that was one of his biggest winners !
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i backed 150 - still odds on not to have the winner
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Addy, only 4 to win good money, by my standards. Eske, Warhawk, Eden and Airlie, with the latter just £2.50 to win £400. Others i've backed generally only win treble my total stakes antepost. Been backing since last year and gives me an interest throughout Derby month
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ok. i only bet two, longwood warrior now out and tango at 50s night before the competition, im a sucker for the dog i am huge fan of his pace just wish he was straight forward
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woody's nose growing ?
![]() woodmanchester • May 24, 2013 7:57 PM BST Top 10, in order of largest payout: Eske, 50 Eden, 40 Warhawk, 33 Sky, 50 Airlie, 159 Billy, 40 Bonamassa, 100 Mags, 100 Alley, 40 Barracuda, 66 Plus …… “One or two others for coppers to keep me interested for 5 rounds before the final” |
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Can you really win money backing so many runners "to keep an interest" in one event ?
By the time you get to the final, there are only six dogs left, you are far better informed about their chances after the earlier rounds and you do not have to run the risk of not having an interest in the final at all. |
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Woody is only in it for fun, there are a lot of good judges on here that are in it for the money.
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I can see why the fahys aren't really happy about TSR's draw on Saturday. It has shown in the past it can come from behind and win but it could face some challenge coming from behind on Saturday. Its best hope is either trouble outside or a ping. If it pings it could lead and then its all over and the clock would be under threat, but what are the chances of that ? . Looks like trouble outside is its best hope especially with missy coming across as well ! Time to green up .
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I can't.
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think the draw is spot on irish, jet dont want 6 it wont lead skate on as long as she dont miss a break and will KK trap from 4? Im struggling to see a scenario where jet gets across and leads the race, i think TSR will be ahead of bluehawk at the bend and bluehawk was stepping right from 3 so wont be turning left from 2. given i think at least 2 of the outside 3 come together, i think he will be in prime position to track round handy a bit like the other night.
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Irish, you must mean Fahy's being unhappy being drawn with those other good hounds in same race rather than the draw in 1.
Ive always thought TSR, Vic and Madison are the three fastest across Eng & Ireland, I dont know the exact rules but if it's what it says on the tin, then those that back Vic at 12's and Eske at 14's to break clock in 3rd round wont be too happy with Sugar Ray in the first heat if he pings and gets clear....his back straight pace the other day was exceptional albeit his time was slow, but we all know on a track he has adjusted too he could break clock...tho I dont think he is suited by Don as SPK |
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sod it, going in again. dog is a 13-8 chance with me. Mind I am 11-8 the other 5
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I thought Tyrur Sugar Ray as impressive as it looked first time the more i watch it the more i think the race totally fell apart. The 2 looks like he was hardly chasing it at all to me and was coming together with 4 around the 1st 2 bends allowing Sugar Ray to close right up. The 2 moves off into the back straight first of all coming together with 4 again and then with the 5 dog leaving a huge hole along the fence for Sugar Ray which he flew through. Then the dogs behind 2 get held up more by him between the last 2 bends.
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Prem, on top form on a fast surface in a solo trial or race presumably you think Sugar Ray could do clock at SPK over say 575yds, do you think he could do same at Wdon 480m?
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He has already gone inside the 575y clock at SPK in a trial last year after the Derby
At Wimbledon i'm not sure to be honest, i'd say no. He got a solo last week and only clocked 28.72, yes on what many perceive a slow track but not 65 spots slow. Yes he can trap a lot better at times than he has yet but he is still limited to the corner i'd say and i can't see him leading around in races unless others get into carnage on the run up. |
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I agree. I also think he must have red, two at worst. I couldnt have him ap due to that, the same as KK (that we disagree on). I do think this race offers such an oppertunity and he is unlikely to get such a lovely draw inside a rival so slow early (and moving off). Wion or not, and I really, really hope he does, the price is very wrong and based on Jets run last time, to which this race bears absolutely no resemblence.
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I dont think Wdon is for him to get speed up and keep it redlined.
I do think though, in Saturday's particular race make up IF 4&5 tangle he could lead round, however Wdon track is funny at moment/last year, you only have to think about Farloe Ironman last year doing a length outside clock in Derby SF last year when in previous races he's looked nothing more than decent grader..so on that basis on normal or +10 going with a ping and clear I'd not be shocked to see him do clock, if 100% fit |
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I think skate on go bingo myself
she got 20 yds further last week than round one she's getting close to that magic mark 16weeks ! jet in six not for me not on Irish form anyway king thought it be setting the place alight that ain't happened only had two runs but I just thought 28.40 every rd type dog think the outsider get in the way inside pair IMO skate on at a price! ![]() ![]() |