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If it's not an April Fool, Saturday May 27th, final following Saturday
thanks, i thought it was april sometime, hoping to get along this year and i like to see them first time round,....thanks woody.
First year i will miss the first round for as long as i can remember.Got roped into driving to Wales that day for some dog show 
No worries Glasgow. Sounds like its local for you. Might have been a chance we could have met for a pint, had already mentioned it to Middleman, but i'm away in Corfu first round. Think that, and the final, is being shown on RPGTV anyway
Barefoot Allstar, winner of last year’s Scottish Derby is very unlikely to defend this title this time after picking up an injury in an Open Sprint at Limerick on Saturday night.
The Paul Hennessy trained Barefoot Allstar broke slowly and struggled badly at the rear of the field throughout and it was obvious he was in some distress.
Trainer Hennessy yesterday confirmed that the dog was very lame and sore after the race but won’t know the extent of the injury until he is checked out by a vet this morning.
Said Hennessy: “You can take it he won’t be going to Shawfield and we are unlikely to have a runner in the Scottish Derby now. But I would imagine he will be out of action for about six weeks and hopefully he will be able to join our team for Wimbledon”.
It Barefoot makes it to the English Derby he would provide Hennessy with a very strong team completed by Money Talks and Priceless Sky.
The Paul Hennessy trained Barefoot Allstar broke slowly and struggled badly at the rear of the field throughout and it was obvious he was in some distress.
Trainer Hennessy yesterday confirmed that the dog was very lame and sore after the race but won’t know the extent of the injury until he is checked out by a vet this morning.
Said Hennessy: “You can take it he won’t be going to Shawfield and we are unlikely to have a runner in the Scottish Derby now. But I would imagine he will be out of action for about six weeks and hopefully he will be able to join our team for Wimbledon”.
It Barefoot makes it to the English Derby he would provide Hennessy with a very strong team completed by Money Talks and Priceless Sky.
Heard Eden Star Shawfield bound, along with another Draper superstar Ballymac Eske
hope your right woody, i havent seen eske run live yet, would surely start warm fav. ??
was the format this year?
12 and the 1st 3 go in the final?
cheers.
12 and the 1st 3 go in the final?
cheers.
The Ladbrokes Scottish Derby closes on Tuesday, April 23. Both rounds are live on RPGTV.
Given encouragement to push for news, I was about to do just that when Shawfield owner Billy King called to confirm that it was all systems go with Ladbrokes sponsoring an 18-runner, two-run event worth £10,000 to the winner with heats the last Saturday in April (27th) and final the first Saturday in May (4th).
Already the mind was racing about possible TV coverage and a quick call to Ladbrokes’ Gordon Bissett told me exactly what I was hoping to hear, namely that both meetings will be live on Racing Post Greyhound TV which is a real feather in the cap for a channel about which I must declare an interest.
Is an 18-runner Classic perfect? Definitely not and I had already made that point the previous weekend when the possibility of such a schedule was first floated. I’d much prefer three rounds, 24 or 36 greyhounds, but 18 runners is far, far better than the zero it looked like being just over a week ago.
As with much this fast-moving period of greyhound history, it’s all about being pragmatic and filling the vacuum created by the end of the previous Sky Sports arrangement and the much-welcomed start of a new deal bankrolled by Bags.
Would those who disagree rather the situation which pertained in 1984 and 1986 when there was no competition so no name to add to the famous Scottish Derby roll of honour? Does an 18-runner event not count even though, on occasions in the past, the Scottish Derby champion has won a one-off race?
Given the perpetual state of 'war' which exists between punters and bookies, it can be difficult for some to be also pragmatic, or realistic, when it comes to broader elements of that relationship.
I don’t forsee the public taking to the streets clamouring for the repeal of the 1961 Betting and Gaming Act which forever changed the landscape for greyhound racing by legalising of-course betting.
At a stroke, the main reason for attending afternoon greyhound meetings was gone as on-course was no longer the only place the general public could have a cash bet be that on greyhounds, horse racing or whatever and our sport has been on the back foot ever since.
However, there remains an appetite amongst punters for greyhound racing to the extent that Bags meetings are just about at an all-time high. It might not be for the purist, but the harsh truth is that the purist doesn’t pay the prize money or stadium running costs.
Working with, and understanding, the new reality means that greyhound racing can prosper and thrive in the years ahead even if it is not the same game many of us grew up, and fell in love, with.
JK blog from a month or so back
Already the mind was racing about possible TV coverage and a quick call to Ladbrokes’ Gordon Bissett told me exactly what I was hoping to hear, namely that both meetings will be live on Racing Post Greyhound TV which is a real feather in the cap for a channel about which I must declare an interest.
Is an 18-runner Classic perfect? Definitely not and I had already made that point the previous weekend when the possibility of such a schedule was first floated. I’d much prefer three rounds, 24 or 36 greyhounds, but 18 runners is far, far better than the zero it looked like being just over a week ago.
As with much this fast-moving period of greyhound history, it’s all about being pragmatic and filling the vacuum created by the end of the previous Sky Sports arrangement and the much-welcomed start of a new deal bankrolled by Bags.
Would those who disagree rather the situation which pertained in 1984 and 1986 when there was no competition so no name to add to the famous Scottish Derby roll of honour? Does an 18-runner event not count even though, on occasions in the past, the Scottish Derby champion has won a one-off race?
Given the perpetual state of 'war' which exists between punters and bookies, it can be difficult for some to be also pragmatic, or realistic, when it comes to broader elements of that relationship.
I don’t forsee the public taking to the streets clamouring for the repeal of the 1961 Betting and Gaming Act which forever changed the landscape for greyhound racing by legalising of-course betting.
At a stroke, the main reason for attending afternoon greyhound meetings was gone as on-course was no longer the only place the general public could have a cash bet be that on greyhounds, horse racing or whatever and our sport has been on the back foot ever since.
However, there remains an appetite amongst punters for greyhound racing to the extent that Bags meetings are just about at an all-time high. It might not be for the purist, but the harsh truth is that the purist doesn’t pay the prize money or stadium running costs.
Working with, and understanding, the new reality means that greyhound racing can prosper and thrive in the years ahead even if it is not the same game many of us grew up, and fell in love, with.
JK blog from a month or so back
Think it's on the cards Glasgow, according to a friend who has a dog with Draper. Watch out for Eden Star, too, he's the ultimate flying machine
Ladbrokes where is the Antepost market
eske,mags,Eden,hellcat,teejays,artisan,sawpit,camas,maybe WARHAWK,love to samson take part don't think lister as anythink to take as he don't like leaving northen England or Yarmouth most of the time!
few others from up north and Ireland !
surly winner there so why no Antepost! it must be at ladbrokes gain to post Antepost price list!
eske,mags,Eden,hellcat,teejays,artisan,sawpit,camas,maybe WARHAWK,love to samson take part don't think lister as anythink to take as he don't like leaving northen England or Yarmouth most of the time!
few others from up north and Ireland !
surly winner there so why no Antepost! it must be at ladbrokes gain to post Antepost price list!
fattie do you really want to be antepost before the entries are accepted ?
Coral priced up sprint early
some people got nice prices some got non runners way it is!
its 18 field surly ladbrokes gain to price early ,
some people got nice prices some got non runners way it is!
its 18 field surly ladbrokes gain to price early ,
All ladbrokes got to do ring shawfield up find out who and what's going to trail or run in trail stakes
there traders must have ideal about what might run anyway price up easy as that!
there traders must have ideal about what might run anyway price up easy as that!
The comp will be massively over subscribed i'd imagine, the racing manager will be choosing the 18 dogs running [only 18 and we've seen some bizarre decisions from RMs in the past] so i have to agree with Irish
your right with overscribed
Surly that ladbrokes gain getting punters money !
Surly that ladbrokes gain getting punters money !
Yeah i can't see any downside for the bookmaker, i wouldn't want to be playing though
Going away 21st and wouldnt be sure there will even be betting then!
ALDWORTH SAMSON V MAGS GAMBLE
SHAWFIELD SATURDAY
ONLY TWO DOGS I WANT TO BACK FOR IT ANTEPOST,
SAMSON NEED TO WIN TO GET PLACE I THINK
GAMBLE CAT ONE WINNER RED CARPET JOB WITH HIM IMO
SHAWFIELD SATURDAY
ONLY TWO DOGS I WANT TO BACK FOR IT ANTEPOST,
SAMSON NEED TO WIN TO GET PLACE I THINK
GAMBLE CAT ONE WINNER RED CARPET JOB WITH HIM IMO
Fattie, do you know the draw? cant see it up, Brough site or RP. I though re the 3 and 4 draw last week, that whatever was in 3 would win, of the 2 dogs
21:11 - Sadbrokes Scottish Derby Trial Stakes 480m
Lemon Cian P Aitken (Unattached)
Clonmoyle Bob G A Stark (Unattached)
Aldworth Samson (m) J Wright (Newcastle)
Samar Rozy (m) A S Mcpherson (Unattached)
Mags Gamble (m) H F Williams (Newcastle)
Greenwell Mentor (w) P J Flaherty
Lemon Cian P Aitken (Unattached)
Clonmoyle Bob G A Stark (Unattached)
Aldworth Samson (m) J Wright (Newcastle)
Samar Rozy (m) A S Mcpherson (Unattached)
Mags Gamble (m) H F Williams (Newcastle)
Greenwell Mentor (w) P J Flaherty
agree fatty samson worth a bet but only if it can trap aswell out the shawfeild traps would sooner take 5 point less knowing that than backing blind antipost myself but thats just my opinion
Lost my price on samson
pretty good time too 29.52 3.66 split moved off as well
said on rptv lads had a book out where?
pretty good time too 29.52 3.66 split moved off as well
said on rptv lads had a book out where?
Trials: Ballymac Eske 29.60, Eden Star 29.83, Paradise Martini 29.42, Lemon Velvet 29.92
Dont think book out Fatty. Think 'Crooks were just offering 6/4 Eske
some fast times a couple of weeks ago...
http://www.racingpost.com/news/greyhounds/velvet-looks-so-smooth-in-scottish...
track +30.
http://www.racingpost.com/news/greyhounds/velvet-looks-so-smooth-in-scottish...
track +30.
Ladbrokes Scottish Derby – heat one: 1 Eden Star, 2 Ballymac Eske, 3 Teejays Bluehawk, 4 Calzaghe Jack, 5 Greenwell Thor (m), 6 Rokka Lucy (w).
Heat two: 1 Lemon Velvet, 2 Oran Prince, 3 Lemon Cian, 4 Paradise Martini, 5 Mags Gamble (m), 6 Greenwell Lark (w).
Heat three: 1 Liosgarbh Und (m), 2 Jaytee Hellcat (m), 3 Greenwell Mentor (w), 4 Tarbrook Tornado (w), 5 Trickys On Fire (w), 6 Black Jedamac (w).
Scottish Derby
Ladbrokes: Evens Ballymac Eske, 4 Eden Star, 7 Mags Gamble, 10 Tarbrook Tornado, 12 Jaytee Hellcat, Teejays Bluehawk, 16 Greenwell Mentor, Paradise Martini, 25 Calzaghe Jack, Lemon Velvet, 33 Liosgarbh Und, Oran Prince, Rokka Lucy, 40 Greenwell Thor, Lemon Cian, 66 Black Jedamac, Greenwell Lark, 100 Trickys On Fire (e/w 1/4 1,2,3).
WANTED TO BACK MAGS BUT RETHINK WITH MARTINI ON ITS INSIDE
FEW A1 DOGS IN THIS !
Heat two: 1 Lemon Velvet, 2 Oran Prince, 3 Lemon Cian, 4 Paradise Martini, 5 Mags Gamble (m), 6 Greenwell Lark (w).
Heat three: 1 Liosgarbh Und (m), 2 Jaytee Hellcat (m), 3 Greenwell Mentor (w), 4 Tarbrook Tornado (w), 5 Trickys On Fire (w), 6 Black Jedamac (w).
Scottish Derby
Ladbrokes: Evens Ballymac Eske, 4 Eden Star, 7 Mags Gamble, 10 Tarbrook Tornado, 12 Jaytee Hellcat, Teejays Bluehawk, 16 Greenwell Mentor, Paradise Martini, 25 Calzaghe Jack, Lemon Velvet, 33 Liosgarbh Und, Oran Prince, Rokka Lucy, 40 Greenwell Thor, Lemon Cian, 66 Black Jedamac, Greenwell Lark, 100 Trickys On Fire (e/w 1/4 1,2,3).
WANTED TO BACK MAGS BUT RETHINK WITH MARTINI ON ITS INSIDE
FEW A1 DOGS IN THIS !
this comp is now a a great big steaming pile of fkin sh|te 
Agree with PF.Will be there on sat but not for final night.
JUST WATCHING THE VIDS OF TORNADO ALL LOOK WELL TILL THAT FINAL
Can't have sprinter winning look a long way home Eske look so so in trial was going to bet blue hawk
But crap draw
But crap draw
jaytee hellcat to win its heat, and a little to win outright.
http://www.thedogs.co.uk/resultsRace.aspx?raceID=270687-12
good run around hove imo.
http://www.thedogs.co.uk/resultsRace.aspx?raceID=270687-12
good run around hove imo.
what happened to samson? was planning a eway bet on him
they said 18 runners would make it a top quality comp, load of b0ll0cks worst field i can remember 3 super fast dogs, a few good dogs which win the odd open, and a few ive never heard of
they said 18 runners would make it a top quality comp, load of b0ll0cks worst field i can remember 3 super fast dogs, a few good dogs which win the odd open, and a few ive never heard of
The full Shawfield meeting, which also features heats of 500m and 670m competitions, is live on Racing Post Greyhound TV tomorrow evening, as is the gala final card a week later.
Scottish Derby heats
Ladbrokes – first (8.42): T1 Eden Star 5-2, T2 Ballymac Eske 1-2, T3 Teejays Bluehawk 8-1, T4 Calzaghe Jack 14-1, T5 Greenwell Thor 20-1, T6 Rokka Lucy 14-1.
Second (8.58): T1 Lemon Velvet 5-1, T2 Oran Prince 10-1, T3 Lemon Cian 10-1, T4 Paradise Martini 2-1, T5 Mags Gamble evens, T6 Greenwell Lark 16-1.
Third (9.15): T1 Liosgarbh Und 10-1, T2 Jaytee Hellcat 11-8, T3 Greenwell Mentor 7-2, T4 Tarbrook Tornado 11-8, T5 Trickys On Fire 25-1, T6 Black Jedamac 20-1.
Scottish Derby heats
Ladbrokes – first (8.42): T1 Eden Star 5-2, T2 Ballymac Eske 1-2, T3 Teejays Bluehawk 8-1, T4 Calzaghe Jack 14-1, T5 Greenwell Thor 20-1, T6 Rokka Lucy 14-1.
Second (8.58): T1 Lemon Velvet 5-1, T2 Oran Prince 10-1, T3 Lemon Cian 10-1, T4 Paradise Martini 2-1, T5 Mags Gamble evens, T6 Greenwell Lark 16-1.
Third (9.15): T1 Liosgarbh Und 10-1, T2 Jaytee Hellcat 11-8, T3 Greenwell Mentor 7-2, T4 Tarbrook Tornado 11-8, T5 Trickys On Fire 25-1, T6 Black Jedamac 20-1.
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