Sky TV St Leger meeting, Wimbledon - Thursday

8.00 Great sprint with Fernhill Jess and You Mind Me the main two, imo. Lil Risky not really firing and his fans could get a big price.

8.15 Personal big flop for me in Eclipse Farloe Ironman out to make amends. Best Hove form ought to give him the edge. Alien Planet ran creditably in the Laurels and must be respected round here. Westmead Maldini gets behind and may come too late.

8.35 Good stayers race but questions to be answered with leading players Express Trend and Bubbly Swallow both ultimately disappointing in the Leger.

8.50 Wouldnt touch the hurdles with a barge pole.

9.10 Competitive marathon and shame some of these never turned out at the Zoo for the Laurels meeting last Tuesday. Storm Pockets ran well in the TV Trophy, whilst Capoley Ash was lifeless. Like hurdles, sometimes hard to call these slogs and Powerfast Pigeon coming to hand too. Aero Rebel could be interesting. Form may not be published but he's just done the clock over 680m Notts, but behind Pockets over 835m Monmore in October. Race a bit of a head-scratcher really.

9.25 Grand bitches race, almost to rival the St Leger final itself. All runners well known to greyhound fans and the race should have a significant bearing on the forthcoming Oaks. Bridge Ruth and Droopys Loner likely to head the market but we will have to see how Ruth handles the track in a race proper and Loner better nearer the inner running rail. Airforce Diva may attempt to swoop late but think she will be opposed round here. The remaining 3 useful in their own right.

Tissue done, waiting for early prices and any obvious mistakes but dont think any large bets will be going in for me

woody i too have done the card but i just dont know why you put it on here until you are on. this forum deifnitely gets read and if several people all put their opinions up it will definitely influence prices - so you wont get the "obvious mistakes" you are after. i have one or two strong opinins but they wont be on here until late morning tomorrow.

i do disagree about the bitches race having a significant bearing on the oaks. the big 3 in the market will be trained to peak in a months time, not tomorrow, so you may well get a different result to this race in a months time. im looking at something else in the race if i can get a price.

good luck anyway.

I have a massive opinion, and whilst my views wont get the prices shortened, I will take the chance and put up after being on tonight

Okay Addy but i mention no prices. I know you all laugh at the tippex man etc but theyre employed to do a certain job and highlighting dogs with obvious chances they already know about seems harmless to me

There a lot of ifs and buts in most races tomorrow could not back trend or bubbly on last showing
In the six bend race I might play coolavanny nut job if a nice price
Ironman looks a likie leader in his race but he's in and out problem is he might get picked up by strong dogs in the race
Islas dog looks pretty good eye on the six if a price see 39-40kg pup
Think ash likes this place but he's not been the same since drapers let him go
Bitchs race going to hope for a big shock !
I've allready played Peggy for the final
Sprint looks a hard race on paper but with 3 **** trapping and one form jess could be shortie heaven!
with oddschecker **** will have to look at the books come round 5 see who gone up if they do that is only 365 gtd

They do come on here have look but
Surly they have there own opinion
On the game like we do if not my services
Are available at fatty@fatty. Belly in northern area

are you free at 7 tonight?

Agree Fatty, Trend and Swallow were below par and need to do better, but could.

Capoley's trial form is very good but ran a stinker in TV Trophy, hard to weigh up. Believe Storm Pockets is going to Shelbourne Park for the Night of Stars now.

Using 365 as a guide, thought 6/4 Islas, 6 Maldini, 8 Pigeon, 5/2 Ruth and 16/1 Emma would have been slightly shorter.

Also thought 11/4 Risky would have been bigger

The rest, the same . Nothing leaps out at me but gone 6/4 Islas and prepared to give Ironman another chance but should be able to beat 5/4. Pigeon will appreciate this trip and gone in at 8/1. 5/2 Ruth fair enough also

On loner @8-1 7-1 for oaks hope she don't to fast save some for the payday woody almost as good a race as leger you could give me all 6 for loner gl

I dont think Drapers let Ash go, the owners moved him. Quite a significant difference

3 little bets so far
Areo in 8 bends just done clock at notts
Fairy in 6 bends ping hope I'm right about the top two
In the betting
Hope think she got a nice draw
Little more in Peggy

What ever since its left the draper kennel s it been poor no?

Well as you asked, while it was at Sallis it ran poor. Lisas given it 2 trials and ran more than adequately.

but the dog did have an Injury when with Sallis

One bet FJ 7-4. Huge given YMM doesnt trap and LR isnt really in the sort of form to match her to the corner.

PING

jess is 2s with PP

Cant get enough on there, Addy.

Flappy, you can get 2/1 your beloved Loner with Hills, i know youre an even bigger fan than me. Just think she dont quite get home at Plough Lane but may stay on better against her own s*x here. Ruth for me though, small interest with a view to Oaks.

Fancy Ironman but my mate likes Alien. Obvously both have very useful form round here and Alien ran creditably in the Laurels and Ironman flopped in the Eclipse. My mate could have a point but if breaking 6/4 Ironman seems fair and reckon silver in the Derby counts for a lot

Good luck!

7.40 - Islas Scolari @ 7/4 + 13/8 (Looks the best drawn dog to me. The top doesn't want to be there and will surely move off causing problems for the 2 and 3 that don't usually come away. The 5 and 6 are wide so Islas Scolari should have a nice run up through the middle and with a decent start he leads all in my opinion)

8.15 - Alien Planet @ 11/4 (I think he's value to turn over Ironman. Ironman never really trapped that well from 1 during the Derby and i think he has to be leading here. Alien Planet flew around here Derby night off probably his best ever break and trialled well last week. Once he can clear Rusheen Major to the corner either in front of Ironman or behind him i think that gives him a massive chance)

9.25 - Airforce Diva @ 9/2 (I'm slightly worried that Wimbledon won't really suit her but i really like her draw. With Loner in 4 looking to move inwards (hamper Bridge Ruth??) Diva should have plenty of room to the corner and once she can hold Jaytee Cuba on her outside she can turn in a decent pitch. If doing so and able to be within 3L off likely leader Loner into the 3rd i think she will back run her)

9.45 - Blonde Fletch @ 4/1 (Just trap well, then he leads, goes a mile clear, hold your breath from the 2nd last, hope he lasts home)

Oh, one last point before i get on with my daily tasks: On best recent form, the stayers is a match between Trend and Swallow. Not really stuck on either of them but betting-wise, 11/4 Swallow could be value in what could be a 2-runner race, one of them looking highly likely to bounce back. Having said all that, preferring to watch though

Woody what was the point of that post below
Your insane !

Go back and rant to the bags boys  they love you dear lol

7.40 - NB - Islas Scolari. I think the world of this dog and showed nice gears behind Lemon Pluto recently. Excellent recent trial, I reckon he leads and makes all. Respect red but I don't see him flying up from there, plus as PF says I dont think he will hug the rail.

8.00 - No Bet. Rarely play sprints but can see why Fernhill Jess is fancied. 8 has a draw and it may be I play small there.

8.15 - Respect Ironman as a dog but i hate dogs essentially need to front run in red at Wimbledon, especially when they are short. You need everything going for you at that price without the complications of having to move off a little because of the running rail. I have a high regard for Alien Planet but I want to be certain he is back to his best and is priced the same as my tissue. Westmead Maldini will need luck and a clear run but I'm a sucker for the dog and have played small.

8.35 - Express Trend and Bubbly swallow, neither set the world alight last time - not sure why Swallow ran so poorly. I'd be looking to take them both on here, can see Coolavanny Fairy at 10s showing up early enough and making the frame. Not entirely straight forward, I think the price more than compensates and is very big considering in my mind front two in market don't appear to be bomb proof. I also think Brinklys SKy has a run in it and may end up following him over a cliff if he keeps teasing me, but I will play him tonight at a price with the front two looking a touch vulnerable.

8.50 - hurdle race, no bet.

9.10 - NAP - Capoley Ash. That 42.07 trial has only been bettered by Robles, Reagan and Romeo Patrol in the entire St Leger campaign - that tells you how far clear he ought to be after the first lap. He stays well enough and I have a lot of time for the trainer (not saying I dont with Sallis). The dog is class and I think she might get him somehwere back to his best. Aero Rebel I think may be flattered by the Nottingham going, its on fire, and that line of form is head and shoulders above anything else its done. Storm Pockets looks short to me and will probably have to come from 10 lengths off the pace. Taking the fitness of Capoley Ash slightly on trust, I think he has a great chance.

9.25 - Amazing race, but I think Loner takes the ground of Bridge Ruth and Diva will move in slightly. Gives a great solo to Jaytee Cuba out wide and Im happy to chance she can nip round infront in a troubled race at the start at 14/1.

9.45 - very open race, can make a case for anything really, and i will wait to see the prices later on the machine, but as PF says, 4/1+ could be considered generous about a dog that will probably lead despite stamina issues and I think red has a run in it, might play level stakes the pair if prices are right later.

Good luck everyone hope we all win $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

8 has a draw in sprint race pmsl meant the bottom at 8s

I have less than three years stats on the Don since they changed sides, when it was icy cold you could rely on the insides as I remember. Years ago you could back the outsiders in trap one as well at a profit, especially in the early rounds of the derby. Have any regulars noted any trends with regard to the track condition since the change over ? (its regularly muted on here and sky that the red is disadvantaged nowdays)

7.40
islas scolari   7/4

9.10 
storm pockets   11/10

9.45 
ballyard buddy  4/1

already on e/w first 4 anti post
had a press up

over at henlow 

7.39
glanmire phanter   11/8

g/l all

also like another dog near end of sky meeting
which is over 4/1
but havnt played as im hoping for a price on here later

already on e/w first 4 anti post
had a press up Shocked


fk me, you bet like Fatty's nan

fancy loads of them but theyre just too short and just know something will happen. Agree bottom has one hell of a draw in the sprint but just runs too wide off the corners. Agree with Alien, he was the one I wanted to be with when the card was out but he trapped last time in the final and was edging left and couldnt make the corner. I see the same tonight so gl with him.

Left fortunes behind when SP got beat in the Tv Trophy but he really should be winning this. Got a feeling for PP  though, looks a huge price if bouncing back to form.

Gl all

Double - Islas and jess

Hope Reagan or peggys win st leger, will be layin Antepost stakes off on here, and maybe put abit on fletch

Good racing, be lucky

i quite like Goa Girl at the price, red dosent seem to be firing but on name and draw should be fav obvi, swallow not greatest make up and really poor last run although i didnt think rails were going at all that night

if can get 4 involved early could be really slow run and goa could get first run at them late on, will prefer this draw to being up the inside for sure, even Armour on the tow is interesting

going to play up some monster fc tc aswell hoping for a messy slow run race

246 combo is the jackpot, 6 too big also on draw

lol 346 i meant

Fatty, just something not mentioned i wanted to point out. Dont hafta put my money on every dog i mention. Dont think youre too far off the mark with insane but i'd say more eccentric. Whats the word from the BAGS boys anyway? .

Oh Addy, Capoley was my fav marathon performer, only one i would consider really and went in heavy on TV Trophy on the strength of trials. Never picked a foot up though, never looking likely to make an impact, so not sure if he'll go clear as you predict tonight, coz trials for show races for dough. Hope he does show his old form but had a very small interest Pigeon at the prices

1x6 in da marathon diff class of pace

Family illness has meant I haven't attended any of the rounds of this years Leger and wont be there tonight but watching on 24 dogs .
As a recreational small stakes punter I've just done a trixie; Risky, Loner and Buddy. I've also done some forecasts doubles!! Rememer them? I hadn't done them for about 25 years but did some on the quarter finals and actually copped one!
Its a great card and the standard, bitches race and final have the potential to be crackers. Lets hope they all come off safe and well.
GL everyone.

Sorry to hear that Toteboard

Risky down but good luck with the rest

Get in you good girl.

Cuppa tea and a small bet Pigeon, Buddy and a sneaky on Tullna Hawk at Hove - how is he 7-2/4-1?? Impossible. Vito unimpressive last time, 4 could hold him up. 2 just needs a run to beat em run-in

Week all paid for by that lovely white b1tch

T6 is different gear @ Wimbledon - narrow track , doesn't run too wide.
Never understood why it left Barry's kennel though !

What a cow coolavanny fairy was flying along than bang didn't want to be in front got to stop backing nuts!

Ffs areo what was going on wanted rails bad cost it the race

wd addy

hope you had plenty on

whoooooosh droopys hope, great run

Oioi hope what a run that areo run cost me huge!!and fairy!!!

i didnt back it by the way, just watching the racing tonight

I'm heading for a shutout, it's against me though

My worries re Wimbledon and Diva look well founded on that evidence, i couldn't have her on my mind for the Oaks at all after that run, looked paceless to the corner after breaking well

Loner folded like it allway does at wimbo even if she need it 4l up down the back!

I'd ring Shelbourne tomorrow if i where the lads who have Diva and get her entered for next Saturday

could be she has had an early sept ssn Pf?

Addy if you liked Capoleys trial on the 14th have a look 8.34 hove t5

site frozen

Yep. Totally down now.

Droopys Zach why did bring that up ffs

betfair is a total ****g joke

betfair

Fletch showed great early there

embarrassing company,take 50% of your peoples money & provide a cac service like this,****g joke.

buddy shown up for what he is imo

went just as an amazing NFL game was coming to the end in overtime

I agree Czech

sooner another exchange starts up the better,this firm are amateurs.

Think T4 was 'awkward'

not "awkward" but "brave" according to Eryol lol it is proper filth

You can not believe that 5 minutes before the Ledger this f------ useless site is frozen,an absolute joke,i am mainly a horse race punter but i have now decided to go to purple.This is the last straw,no doubt they will blame the weather !!

If Peggy got though that gap who knows
Buddy every chance well done 9/2 ew backers money back more than what I got back just another unlucky nite !!

betfair **** u

Can i just state i was definately going to back Blonde Reagan on here before the final, i was also going to have a decent wedge on the 5/4 forecast and throw a few quid more on the 5/4/3 tricast. Thanks a lot betfair, you've ruined me night, beans on toast for the rest of the week for me.

Think all i got right was Loner wouldnt get home, lots of turn-ups and Oaks turned on its head. Said the race would have a significant impact but didnt expect like that . Glad Capoley did well, well done Addy and peeps who backed Jess and that

worst time to go down when we are chasing loses what a joke

beans on toast sounds like a luxury m8 for me its cold water and toothpaste

Thats terrible P F you should claim compensation imho

Looking back now the dust's settled. Disappointed with Islas but gave Hellcat as the danger, thought might have needed the run though.

Gave Jess a good shout but said Ironman flopped in Eclipse and with hindsight, should have left alone.

Said stayers race a 2-runner affair Trend and Swallow but hinted at the wrong one .

Wrong about Capoley but likely to be a follower again in forthcoming marathons. Could have done with running like that in TV Trophy.

Droopys Hope totally caught me out and Oaks wide open, imo. Very disappointed with Ruth. Seems Hove form not all it's cracked up to be.

Got 2nd and 3rd in St Leger. Very well done Reagan. Didnt think he would quite do it but had an interest on him on TV Trophy and too late now, but obviously should have seen it through.

As i had said, no big investments though, so little harm done

Ach BB! Completely fancied the winner but had to hold with Buddy. Can't argue with you lot, he definately thought about it. It looked worse on the race than the slo-mo. Ho hum

Also agree that the Hove form of the two Wallis runners though they are obviously better than that, Hope was very impressive, and didnt want the red box anyway.

Dont want to sound unsympathetic PF, but havent you got any regular online bookie accounts with which you could have struck your bets in the final?

was heading for a minging night. islas dropped out, was on back foot. laid lil risky, you mind me and bet guinnes smokie. jess a small loser, thought i was about to cop the lot when 2 threatened to ger on her inner at the first. 8/1 second. benkaat blue was a decent result, laid farloe ironman for a b0llock and bet maldini - thought he might get round the bend on the run up from the track, but alas, no. 2 grand swing with trend, was dead against that and had bet fairy. i knew what she was but felt she might lead and stay on. desperate for her to catch trened on run in but knew realistically she wouldnt. rank result, 10/1 second. no bet hurdles. capoley ash very strongbet, put me decent infront. watched the replay when i got in last night, best backed dog of the day apparently? bitches race too busy in post ash celebrations to realise the race was nearly off and only had small bet jaytee cuba, would have had more but for being at the bar, thought i might have a nice winner there too when loner went left and cuba led on run up,red ran very well. final itself couldnt get onto BF thought it was my phone, small cash bet 1 and 2 at the track no good but well done reagan, very pleased for owner/trainer. wallis just needs the oaks now for a full house . all in small up on the night, partly feel unlucky with 3 big priced dogs being in front at one point or another even if for a split second with smokie, but then equally as glad ash got me out of what was starting to look a rank night. if he was beat would have been one of the worst for ages.

Dont want to sound unsympathetic PF, but havent you got any regular online bookie accounts with which you could have struck your bets in the final?


i caught 1 anyway, better bait needed for a bigger catch in future

Fair enough, just thought you sounded genuine, silly me. I'm a very gullible person

Mark Wallace is some trainer, just brilliant.That dog the  Blonde Leger winner was in some order, and took a few wallops on his way around also.  Does anyone else subscribe to the view that the kennel that had the 1st tv fav, often seems a bit suspect especially with shorties ?
Woodie keep an eye on one of Ireland's doggie trainers tonight at dundalk with First Friday. Seems to be attempting the opposite to what Mark Johnston is trying over there, ie dogs to horses

Ta Jay but cant get a bet on a Dundalk