I see it's 550yds, 503m. Our St Legers are staying races. At first glance, i'd shortlist Skywalker Puma, Sparta Maestro. Dont think really far enough for Kingo and Tibetan Skies. Think i'd respect Laughil Billy, Refuge of Sinner though, all that's straight off the top of the head, of course
I see it's 550yds, 503m. Our St Legers are staying races. At first glance, i'd shortlist Skywalker Puma, Sparta Maestro. Dont think really far enough for Kingo and Tibetan Skies. Think i'd respect Laughil Billy, Refuge of Sinner though, all that's st
At the prices, my three against the field are Milldean Tally (12/1), Shelbourne Geoff (25/1) & Varra Captain (50/1). Id be keen to take on Puma around Limerick, theres no way that he'll get the breaks in running that he got thru the Irish Derby.
At the prices, my three against the field are Milldean Tally (12/1), Shelbourne Geoff (25/1) & Varra Captain (50/1). Id be keen to take on Puma around Limerick, theres no way that he'll get the breaks in running that he got thru the Irish Derby.
Where did you expect the Irish Derby winner who has recently clocked 28.00 in a trial to be in the betting.
And then the dog who was favourite at one stage for the Derby that recently broke a track record that stood for years and even stars like College Causeway could not break.
Where did you expect the Irish Derby winner who has recently clocked 28.00 in a trial to be in the betting.And then the dog who was favourite at one stage for the Derby that recently broke a track record that stood for years and even stars like Colle
Well, ask a football pundit who wins the Premiership. Are they likely to say United/City or QPR/Wigan? I know i get no marks for stating the obvious but wouldn't be looking to back both the top 2 in any case. Looking like Skywalker Puma and Laughil Billy for me at this stage.
Good luck!
Well, ask a football pundit who wins the Premiership. Are they likely to say United/City or QPR/Wigan? I know i get no marks for stating the obvious but wouldn't be looking to back both the top 2 in any case. Looking like Skywalker Puma and Laughil B
Sparta Maestro who i think this track should suit him.
Shelbourne Geoff who finished 3rd in this last year and has good form around here, he's fresh as he had to miss the Derby and if fully over his problems looks too big a price.
At the prices i like:Sparta Maestro who i think this track should suit him.Shelbourne Geoff who finished 3rd in this last year and has good form around here, he's fresh as he had to miss the Derby and if fully over his problems looks too big a price.
They cut him to 5s but don't want to lay 5s now. Why not just put him in 4/6, would they lay him at that??
Shouldn't have stayed up for the NFL last night and went to the shops this morning
They cut him to 5s but don't want to lay 5s now. Why not just put him in 4/6, would they lay him at that??Shouldn't have stayed up for the NFL last night and went to the shops this morning
Backed Shaneboy Alley today at 80/1. Vastly improving dog and really put it up to Puma on Saturday might. Might be more to come and hasn't got a bad draw in the second round. Still 66's available
Backed Shaneboy Alley today at 80/1. Vastly improving dog and really put it up to Puma on Saturday might. Might be more to come and hasn't got a bad draw in the second round. Still 66's available
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:18 pm Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post Played Shaneboy Alley E/W @ 80/1, thought he ran a blinder behind Puma Saturday night. Puma turned 2nd to him and only beat him 2 1/2L which is some effort, yes Puma was held up a bit down the back as Alley moved wide into his ground but it was still a good effort. He is 1 of only 5 (w)s left and unlike the others looks to have the necessary early to be able to turn in front. He is in a tough enough 2nd round heat but he is lightly raced and looked a lot better than those odds suggest in round 1.
Done the same, posted it elsewherePremierFantasyJoined: 29 Mar 2012Posts: 4158 PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:18 pm Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this postPlayed Shaneboy Alley E/W @ 80/1, thought he ran a blinder behind Puma S
Tempted by 25/1 each-way Muralli Junior. True, Tibetan Skies closed him down but thought he was keeping going close home. Won 3/4 length and Skies only 16/1
Tempted by 25/1 each-way Muralli Junior. True, Tibetan Skies closed him down but thought he was keeping going close home. Won 3/4 length and Skies only 16/1
Paid a visit to Limerick track on Sat night (first time there in over a year)-only 5/6 bookies there for the 1st round of a classic. Absolute joke, with the boys taking out the usual margins. Crowd wasn't great either.
There is something not quite right about the place, even with all the cash spent (and overspent) on it. 1st floor of stand is poorly designed, in most spots, you cant see the 1st & 4th bends - for some reason,they didn't think of this when building it.
Paid a visit to Limerick track on Sat night (first time there in over a year)-only 5/6 bookies there for the 1st round of a classic. Absolute joke, with the boys taking out the usual margins. Crowd wasn't great either. There is something not quite ri
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:18 pm Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Played Shaneboy Alley E/W @ 80/1, thought he ran a blinder behind Puma Saturday night. Puma turned 2nd to him and only beat him 2 1/2L which is some effort, yes Puma was held up a bit down the back as Alley moved wide into his ground but it was still a good effort. He is 1 of only 5 (w)s left and unlike the others looks to have the necessary early to be able to turn in front. He is in a tough enough 2nd round heat but he is lightly raced and looked a lot better than those odds suggest in round 1.
Also stuck something small on Rockchase Bullet @ 33/1, he walked out of 6 last week but showed decent pace up before getting bother. I thought he ran pretty well and he showed he runs Limerick well enough earlier in the year when winning over 600y, with better draws he can go all the way to the final. I'd be slightly worried about his draw this week with pace both sides of him but hopefully he can qualify.
Also played Rockchase Bullet small at the price, bit worried about his draw Saturday night. Lost Shelbourne Geoff on Saturday night from my ante post bets, he ran rubbish but had been off a while with problems. Wasn't impressed with Saprta Maestro either at all, thought he ran poor but happy to see them take the (w) off as think he will be better off drawn in down there.
PremierFantasyJoined: 29 Mar 2012Posts: 4193 PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:18 pm Reply with quote Edit/Delete this postPlayed Shaneboy Alley E/W @ 80/1, thought he ran a blinder behind Puma Saturday night. Puma turned 2nd to him and only beat
Kingo produced a professional display to run out a comfortable winner of the opening heat for Dolores Ruth. The powerful black maintains a strong gallop throughout and he was never going to be collared once entering eth back straight with a clear lead.
To his credit Head For Fame closed down the back but had nothing extra from the bottom bends and Kingo led home Head For Fame and On His Toes by four lengths and one length in 29.98.
Heat 2 – POLISHED PUMA POUNCES
Derby champion Skywalker Puma remains on-course to complete a classic double after emerging an impressive winner of the second heat despite the best efforts of the rapidly progressive Cabra Buck. The latter shot from traps to set a strong pace, but Skywalker Puma was also fast into stride and he turned a close second.
The leader increased his lead into the back straight as Skywalker Puma was forced to check wide, although he quickly recovered. By the third turn Skywalker Puma was breathing down the neck of the early leader and he duly shot past to lead before the home turn. Cabra Buck stuck on grimly in second, but Skywalker Puma took the verdict by a length in 29.84.
HEAT 3 – TIBETAN TURNS ON POWER
So often frustrating in the past, Owen McKenna’s Tibetan Skies really turned it on when winning the third heat in some style. It was a race in which fortunes changed on a few occasions after Lisnakill led up from Tibetan Skies, Refuge Of Sinner and an improving Camas Crash.
Camas Crash forced his way through on the inside to hit the front and he led down the far side. Refuge Of Sinner moved second and then Tibetan Skies came with a rush and shot through on the inside to take it up. He then raced on to win by three parts of a length from fast finishing Varra Swallow in 29.84 with Camas Crash two lengths third.
HEAT 4 – SKY LOOKED PRICELESS
Paul Hennessy had a great first round in the classic and Priceless Sky gave him the perfect start to the second round when an impressive winner of Heat 4 in a very fast 29.59. He didn’t fly from traps but showed good pace to join Leap On Board on the run-up and then shot the bend.
He opened up a big gap down the far side and had the race sewn up by halfway. Maintaining his powerful runn to the line he raced home a six length winner from Leap On Board in 29.59 with O Garney Patch another two lengths third.
HEAT 5 – COOLARD LEADS MOST
Paul Hennessy’s hopes of a quick double were dashed when Money Talks broke slowly from the outside box in Heat 5 and he actually did very well to qualify. It was Declan Byrne’s Coolard Chief that showed the superior early pace to head Ders Always One on the run up and by halfway he had a lead of four lengths.
Money Talks began his move now as he went second and closed without ever looking a winner. Coolard stayed on well for a two length margin over Money Talks in 30.10 and it was one and a half lengths to the staying Moss Lane in third.
HEAT 6 - MAESTRO BACK IN BEST FORM
The much discussed changed seeding didn’t effect Phil Gough’s Sparta Maestro as he turned in a masterly performance to win this heat in 29.77. He stepped out lively from the three box and led up from Ardkill Star with Skip Soda moving third on the bend.
Once Sparta led by a few lengths into the far side there was no way he could be caught and he raced on really strongly to beat the big staying Ardkill Star by three and a half lengths in 29.77 while Skip Soda was some three lengths back in third.
HEAT 7 – COMEDIAN IS NO JOKE
Paul Hennessy may have been foiled of a double in Heat 5 but he made amends in style here as veteran tracker Droopys Comedian (Blackstone Gene/ Droopys Sporty) turned back the clock with a brilliant all the way success in 29.82.
The Comedian flew from traps and led up from Varra Rumble with Forest Ralph in third. The latter was baulked on the corner and Cashen Mafuma moved second. He ran on in his inimitable style but Droopys Comedian was home and hosed and cruised to a eight length victory over Cashen Mafuma with Varra Ruimble a length and a half back third.
HEAT 8 – DRAGON LIVES UP TO REPUTATION
Pat Buckley’s Dragon Shield had looked a real early season talent but a series of little problems prevented him from making it a reality. However, he showed in this final heat that he is very much back on song as he won in 29.88.
Dragon Shield comfortably won the run to the bend where there was major trouble in behind. Danmar Benny forced his way through into second and ran his usual ultra game race down the far side. However Dragon Shield wasn’t easing off and he raced home three and a half lengths ahead of Danmar Benny and Out For Gold. Back to Talking Dogs
03/11/2012Heat 1 – KINGO IS CLINICALKingo produced a professional display to run out a comfortable winner of the opening heat for Dolores Ruth. The powerful black maintains a strong gallop throughout and he was never going to be collared once enter
Some brilliant performances in the Quarters. Priceless Sky absolutely amazing and flying. On Puma but that and Maestro, obviously still, very big players
Some brilliant performances in the Quarters. Priceless Sky absolutely amazing and flying. On Puma but that and Maestro, obviously still, very big players
SPARTA MAESTRO STILL A LEGER DOUBT 16/11/2012 Sparta Maestro is still a doubtful runner in tomorrow’s second semi-final of the Kerry Agribusiness Irish St Leger at Limerick and no definite decision will be made until late this evening at the earliest.
Phil Gough confirmed yesterday that it is still touch and go with the brilliant black as he said: “He is not fully right just yet but we are having him checked again tomorrow afternoon and will know the results tomorrow night. I just want people to be aware that he is not a certain runner”.
It don't look good for us on Sparta Maestro. They seem worried to risk him as he may then aggrivate the injury and miss the final and possibly the night of stars, to me though the Leger is much more prestigous than the night of stars so i'd be running Saturday night but then i'm on ante post so could be accused of pocket talking.
SPARTA MAESTRO STILL A LEGER DOUBT16/11/2012Sparta Maestro is still a doubtful runner in tomorrow’s second semi-final of the Kerry Agribusiness Irish St Leger at Limerick and no definite decision will be made until late this evening at the earliest
Puma would want to come away in from of Kingo and Mafuma.
Although it's bad for my pocket it would be good to see Puma do the Derby/Leger double
The top has a plot draw.Puma would want to come away in from of Kingo and Mafuma.Although it's bad for my pocket it would be good to see Puma do the Derby/Leger double
Having gone through the final i think the dog that could decide the result could be Kingo. He stepped right from 4 and was mid, mid to wide run up in the semi final. the previous round his immediate reaction from trap 3 was to come out to the right and the same in the round before from trap 1.
There was nothing between Puma and Kingo to the corner in the semi final but Puma was drawn inside. This time however they are the other way around and if they go to the corner together again can Puma get around him? Through the whole competition Kingo has had the better sectionals so there is a fair chance he will lead Puma or at least be with him to the corner.
All this leaves Priceless Sky surely to get a solo on the inside. He has been so consistant from traps in the competition (2.80 x 3 times and 2.85 when drawn 5) and with Kingo looking likely to leave him plenty of room he looks the likely leader. If he does turn in front the only dog i can see possibly picking him up is Puma (and even that is no certainty) so it's crucial for his backers that he has cleared Kingo early.
I'd have Priceless Sky shorter than the 5/4 on the draw. Puma looks the right price to me.
Having gone through the final i think the dog that could decide the result could be Kingo. He stepped right from 4 and was mid, mid to wide run up in the semi final. the previous round his immediate reaction from trap 3 was to come out to the right a
20/11/2012 Everybody will be able to enjoy the action from the final of the Kerry Agribusiness Irish St Leger at Limerick on Saturday. It will be shown live on RTE News Now on Saturday night from 10.10 pm.
Viewers from around the world will be able to follow the action live on www.rte.ie. It can also be viewed on Saorview and UPC as well as via iPad, iPhone & Android.
The programme will run between 10.10 and 10.40 and will also include a review of the night’s racing.
“We see the lift that live TV & online creates every year with the key races from around the country”, said Imelda Cahalan. “It is a great boost that Limerick will be broadcast live to not only to the nation but to a wider worldwide audience”.
“Kerry Group are long-time supporters of greyhound racing and their faith in the Irish St. Leger, and in Limerick Greyhound Stadium, will be repaid by opening the competition to a much larger audience on RTE News Now” added Cahalan.
Viewers across Ireland and around the world will be able to bet live into the race pools and the Jackpot on the night through the Irish Greyhound Board’s interactive betting website at www.igb.ie .
20/11/2012Everybody will be able to enjoy the action from the final of the Kerry Agribusiness Irish St Leger at Limerick on Saturday. It will be shown live on RTE News Now on Saturday night from 10.10 pm.Viewers from around the world will be able to
It's the classic match up, the trail-blazing Priceless Sky against the powerhouse Skywalker Puma, shame about the injury to Sparta Maestro. Although gone to plan so far with 5/1 Puma in the final, still got a feeling i'm on the wrong one. The bookies make it a two-dog race but dogs like Kingo and Tibetan Skies are capable of making an impact.
Will be tuning into RTE tonight
It's the classic match up, the trail-blazing Priceless Sky against the powerhouse Skywalker Puma, shame about the injury to Sparta Maestro. Although gone to plan so far with 5/1 Puma in the final, still got a feeling i'm on the wrong one. The bookies
Her record in big finals in recent years is quite phenomenal and Kingo has been one of her best performers as he has won the last two runnings of the Betfair (or Hegarty) 600. He has also been a quarter finalist in the 2011 Irish Derby and also finished a length third behind Tyrur Big Mike in this year’s Easter Cup final.
He has been popping out smartly in each round of this classic and is well capable of being involved in an early bump with Skywalker Puma. Whatever, he is entitled to big respect.
PUMA READY TO POUNCE
In three is the champion himself, Skywalker Puma which is also unbeaten in the classic. Having won the Red Mills Champion Juvenile at Kilkenny, he next appeared in the first round of the Irish Derby at Shelbourne.
His was on an upward curve through the Derby and in the final he collared Cuil Cougar with that sizzling late run that saw him get up in the final strides.
He was slow to the bend in most of his Derby heats but he has been coming away much stronger in the Leger and he has really taken to the Limerick circuit. He is powerful from halfway and is virtually irresistible if within three lengths of the lead at the half mark. He is bidding to provide the O’Donnell kennel with a seventh St Leger and a first for owner Ray Patterson.
VERY CONSISTENT MAFUMA
Cashen Mafuma has been a hugely consistent performer for breeder and trainer Chris Houlihan and has mixed all his career in the highest company.
This is a second classic final for him this year after finishing behind Power Of God in the Produce Stakes final at Clonmel.
However there has been plenty of success also as he won the Rose of Tralee Stake and the Vetsearch Recharge 525 as well as the Macroom Motor Services Stake. He’s capable of going up well but has been finishing strongly in this competition.
A THIRD FOR OWEN?
The name McKenna is synonymous with the St Leger and Owen has taken over from dad Ger by winning the classic twice.
In the Eimear Coffey owned Tibetan Skies he has a dog with as much pace as any other greyhound in the final. His problem is that he doesn’t always put it to the best use.
In saying that he has been going up faster to the corner at Limerick than in previous outings and on paper he would look the major danger to the big two. Certainly, if there is any trouble up front then this dog is the one most likely to take advantage.
THERE TOTALLY ON MERIT
The longest priced of the finalists prior to the first round would have been Head For Fame and he remains the outsider going into the final.
But he has gained his final place totally on merit and his early pace makes him a threat to them all.
Brilliantly handled by Tommy Bolton for West Cork born owner Larry O’Rourke, Head For Fame loves the good run to the bend and was only overhauled around the bottom bends by Skywalker Puma in an earlier round. I don’t expect him to win but he can make his presence felt by the opening bend.
IN SUMMARY …
It’s probably too obvious but the likelihood is that Priceless Sky will lead to the bend and, likely, by further into the back straight.
It then depends on how quickly Skywalker Puma gets into second to launch his challenge. If he is not second by halfway it may be too late. The narrow vote goes to Priceless Sky to win from Skywalker Puma with Tibetan Skies in third.
nal you have to take notice.Her record in big finals in recent years is quite phenomenal and Kingo has been one of her best performers as he has won the last two runnings of the Betfair (or Hegarty) 600. He has also been a quarter finalist in the 201