Cork Laurels

Sep 23, 2012 -- 12:46PM, woodmanchester wrote:

That's right NGU but it also means 4 races were run just to eliminate one dog, doesnt it?

tis the only thing they cud do to end up with a second round 0f 48 dogs

Maybe it should have been 48 dogs to begin with. Lots of deadwood and a round less might have been better instead of it so longdrawn out. Okay, a few disappointments for the ones that didnt get in, but would they have had a realistic chance anyway?

Some of what would have been described as 'dead wood' prior to yeterday won their heats though Woody!

Okay, it was just a thought

It was announced by Curraheen Park on Tuesday evening that Sunvalley John has been withdrawn from the first heat in the second round of the Red Mills Irish Laurels on Saturday night.

The son of Crash and Mikado Miss which is trained by Michael Hallahan for Claire Lawless was due to race from trap six in the opening heat.

This means that the line-up for that race is now: 1 Cuil Cougar; 2 Black Warrior; 3 Money Talks; 4 Cashen Mafuma; 5 Blue Jet Sky; 6 Vacant.
Back to Talking Dogs

Ballymac Vic 27.94, new Tr Rec............short price fav now

Money Talks beat Derby runner up Cuil Cougar in 28.11. Ashfield Impact did well, 28.32, but Knockglass Billy can do better. Cambushmore took the scalp of Confident Rankin, 28.41. Camas Crash, 28.56, gamely beat an unlucky Razldazl Rioga, who missed the kick, jostled about and couldnt get clear. Ballymac Vic superb, (as Jay said 27.94) kicking myself didnt go with him now seeing as he was my big Derby hope, but not past the post yet. My Allen Master 2nd but beaten a long way, will have to do much better to figure in future. Boherna House no mistake, 28.14

watching replays anyone think Droopys delfion big at 100/1 and 150/1
think it was crossed at the start stopped when making a race winning move at the 3rd turn
looking at its form allways in first 3 spot value maybe! at a price

Boherna House is still a huge price @ 16/1. Ballymac's got loads of pace outside him next week. Knockglass Billy made a balls of it last night at the traps. Tafari and Money Talks are no slouches either. 1st bend will be interesting! Liveanddangerous had another look last night as well. Don't think he'll get away with it again

I hope you are right Fatty as I backed him before the 1st round. Great middle pace and the type to keep getting through.... I hope!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ZocPwS5kg&feature=plcp

I think Ballymac Vic will struggle, especially if breaking slow from that box

Fantastic dog Vic, but will be out on his ear if he misses it like the Derby. 2/1 too short. Wishing the dog no harm, gone small on 12/1 Knockglass Billy and 16/1 Boherna House to add to 33/1 Allen Master

An e/w bet at 20/1 1/4 a place ist 4 looks a fair bet on  Liveanddangerous ..

Liveandangerous will be disqualified soon enough, you're taking a big chance backing him in my opinion

to think Boherna House for sale on g data for 6k in Dec...

to think Boherna House for sale on g data for 6k in Dec...

Hes well named PF BUT 20/1 IS V/GOOD VALUE..I WILL TAKE THE CHANCE.

Fine run by Allen Master.

Just needs a nice trap draw for once.

Running very well.

Delfione gave his chance away of a semi at the first bend, if anyone wanted a top six bend dog in the making thats it !
Shaneboy **** by the two at trap wise **** when running up rioga ass at the 3rd turn !
VIC running so well thought the knock glass stuck to guns run him pretty close

Rioja draw almost did for him

Allen Master has a lovely draw in the semi final, his main problem is he doesn't run the 3rd bend at Curraheen he stops into it every night, hopefully he qualifies for the final. Not happy with the draw for Ashfield Impact, he will need to fly the lids from out in 5. Hopefully he does, the dog has stunning early

Had 3 going for varying amounts antepost. Ballymac Vic (in treble - i know i'm pushing it), Knockglass Billy and Allen Master. How lucky am i all 3 qualified after drawn together? Should have done the trio!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2yFzk_2vlU

Camas Crash looks like a real Shelbourne prospect for the Tote Gold Cup and Easter Cup next year. Fantastic down the back.

Looks to have been lucky with his opposition in the semi final but I suspect something will get away from him round here in the final if he qualifies.

OK my 6 for the final
1 Ballymac Vic
2 Razldazl Rioga
3 Boherna House
4 Allen Master
5 Confident Rankin
6Tinas Nova

It's impossible for that to be the final 6

LAURELS SEMI DRAW



HEAT 1

1 TINAS NOVA

2 RAZLDAZL RIOGA

3 KNOCKGLASS BILLY

4 CAMAS CRASH

5 ASHFIELD IMPACT

6 CASHEN MAFUMA



HEAT 2

1 ALLEN MASTER

2 BALLYMAC VIC

3 BOHERNA HOUSE

4 LIVEANDDANGEROUS

5 CONFIDENT RANKIN

6 BALLYBOUGH HAWKE (W)

Thanks irish1,
maybe I try again, musta took the draw down wrong sat. night, probably, couldn't understand the west Cork accent of the manager, or maybe a sherbet too many ......... 6 for the final,not in trap order.
1 Razldazl Rioga
2 Allenmaster
3 Boherna House
4 Ballymac Vic
5 Camas Crash
6 Knockglass Billy

09/10/2012
Liam Dowling yesterday gave a very positive report on his brilliant tracker Ballymac Vic which is now a 4-5 favourite with the layers for the Connolly’s Red Mills Irish Laurels.


Last week Vic had been a little off-colour early in the week but Dowling said yesterday that “he is much better this week. He has been bouncing for the last couple of days and now we can just keep our fingers crossed”.

Liam continued: “We are now in the semis but the old saying is that you’re only as good as your last game. He has to hold his form as he has a lot of running done but has got nothing out of it yet. We would be thrilled to get to the final but in semis you always need a little bit of luck”.

All the major Irish based firms have quoted Ballymac Vic as the 4-5 favourite to become the Laurels champion and the best prices available are 4-5 Ballymac Vic; 8 Camas Crash, Confident Rankin; 10 Boherna House, Razldazl Rioga, Knockglass Billy; 20 Allen Master, Cashen Mafuma, Liveanddangerous; 25 Ashfield Impact; 50 Ballybough Hawke, Tinas Nova

Best prices available are 4/5?? Wake up Fortune, there is 6/5 with SJ if you want it.

yeh probably £1.33 max

My final six
VIC
LIVEANDDANGEOUS
ALLEN MASTER
K BILLY
RIOGA
CAMAS CRASH

MY only bet at 20/1 e/w 1st 4  is Liveandangeous..There could be big trouble at the 1st bend in the 2nd heat Vics right price is 5/4.

Liveanddangerous will be too busy trying to chew the heads off the dogs outside him to take advantage of any traffic at the 1st bend

AS i said before Liveanddangerous is well named but is a dog of great Ability ..25/1 with PP AT THE MIN is a fair e/w bet. i think he has a great chance of making the final but i am aware that most dont want him because of his Behavior Problems.

Fighters usually have buckets of ability, but get side tracked. I'm a Boherna House backer myself. 20's and 16's

Ballymac Vic is flying and should duly land the second semi. Hopeful of a place in the final for 33/1 antepost shot Allen Master. May yet go quicker round here, judged on his 28.38sec 525yds Shelbourne. Remaining spot could either be Boherna House or Confident Rankin but they need room to manoeuvre, could be who secures the smoothest passage.

Razldazl Rioga has a good chance to get clear in the first semi. 12/1 play Knockglass Billy hasnt come away well past twice, but capable of far better. Just favour Ashfield Impact to reach the final over Camas Crash but could be a close call

Am i the only one that thinks there could be something wrong with Razldazl Rioga?? The whole world wants to be with him tonight but i thought he ran shocking last week. Ok he has a great make up but he overcame the trap 5 draw easy last week to claim the rails and was absolutely stuffed.

He absolutely smashed from 5 and easily got across and got to the bend in front of Boherna House who was forced to check out wide behind Rioga yet led him out of the 2nd bend. Then into the 3rd Rioga had a few lengths on the rest of the field who closed right up on the bend and only for the dog behind running up Rioga's ass would have gone by him there too. To me he looked to run the bend desperate slow.

Ashfield Impact is 25/1 e/w with stan james if you near a shop wood.

He has a shocking draw and will be lucky to qualify, he needs to trap as well as he ever has, that's from someone who has him backed at huge odds

Razldazl Rioga does.nt seem to be as good as he was early in the year ; should make the final but 8/1 to win out is poor value.

Wouldnt worry too much about Rioga. Sure Dolores knows what's she's doing and should be hard to keep out of the decider if Billy misses again. Rioga was similar at Wimbledon. We all know how fast he is when he gets everything right

He was losing lenghts at the bends at Wimbledon as that's what it looked to me last week?

perhaps Boherna House clipped him from behind at the 1st but into the 3rd he had 1 1/2-2L on Shaneboy Spencer when Rioga seemed to slow into the bend and Spencer ran into him

Yes, i seem to remember he did that one round at Plough Lane, then bounced back. Just got a feeling he will go clear tonight and not for catching. Will have to wait and see though

So you're talking about the first round when Mill Bling Bling led him and Rioga clipped him on the 1st and got up his inside, Mill Bling Bling then paced up outside him and led into the 3rd forcing Rioga to check on the bend.

It's a bit different as there was no dogs around him last week, into the 3rd especially.

It may be nothing and he may win but a 7/4 shot?? He did 28.83 leading to the bend last week.

IS THERE A LINK TO SEE THE S/FINALS LADS?

woody feck off and put yer bok on something else FFS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge1-x9Jh7sc&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2pJ_pQ&index=18&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJfzBjfK5U&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2pJ_pQ&index=17&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlReQKJdvSc&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2pJ_pQ&index=16&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNFg53qEiYI&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2pJ_pQ&index=15&feature=plcp

TY.

Race 8 - The Connolly's Red Mills Irish Laurels. Semi-Final   (Grade : AA0) Flat 525
Pos.     Trap     Greyhound     Prize     Wt.       Win Time     By     Going     Est
Time     SP.     Grade     Comm.
1.      Trap 2     RAZLDAZL RIOGA      €100.00      73      28.24             +.30 Fast      28.54       2/1f            FAw,ALd
2.      Trap 3     KNOCKGLASS BILLY      €0.00      79      28.24      3L      +.30 Fast      28.75       5/2            EP,A 2nd
3.      Trap 1     TINAS NOVA      €0.00      68      28.24      nk      +.30 Fast      28.77       8/1            EvAw,Styd
4.      Trap 6     CASHEN MAFUMA      €500.00      75      28.24      1.5L      +.30 Fast      28.87       8/1            SlAw,StyWl
5.      Trap 4     CAMAS CRASH      €500.00      78      28.24      nk      +.30 Fast      28.89       3/1            QAw,ClrRn
6.      Trap 5     ASHFIELD IMPACT      €500.00      78      28.24      8.5L      +.30 Fast      29.49       7/1            SlAw,Blk 1

vic out

Race 9 - The Connolly's Red Mills Irish Laurels. Semi-Final   (Grade : AA0) Flat 525
Pos.     Trap     Greyhound     Prize     Wt.       Win Time     By     Going     Est
Time     SP.     Grade     Comm.
1.      Trap 3     BOHERNA HOUSE      €100.00      78      28.50             +.30 Fast      28.80       4/1            FAw,ALd
2.      Trap 1     ALLEN MASTER      €0.00      75      28.50      1L      +.30 Fast      28.87       4/1            EvAw,Chl 3
3.      Trap 5     CONFIDENT RANKIN      €0.00      78      28.50      1L      +.30 Fast      28.94       6/1            BmpRu,FinWl
4.      Trap 4     LIVEANDDANGEROUS      €500.00      65      28.50      1L      +.30 Fast      29.01       8/1            SlAw,Styd
5.      Trap 6     BALLYBOUGH HAWKE      €500.00      74      28.50      0.5L      +.30 Fast      29.04       20/1            SlAw,NvShw
6.      Trap 2     BALLYMAC VIC      €500.00      80      28.50      sh      +.30 Fast      29.05       4/6f            EP,Blk 3

Can someone post trap draw once it is out please.

TY FOR POSTING N.G.U.

no bother

Draw for Saturday’s decider:

1 Knockglass Billy

2 Allen Master

3 Confident Rankin

4 Boherna House

5 Tinas Nova

6 Razldazl Rioga

13/10/2012
Razldazl Rioga and Boherna House secured their places in the final of the 2012 Connolly’s Red Mills Irish Laurels with stylish victories at a packed Curraheen Park on Saturday night.

But that scarcely tells the story of what was a sensational night of action.

One of the real talking points was the shock elimination of the red-hot ante-post favourite Ballymac Vic, as he paid the price for missing the kick. The headlines go to Razldazl Rioga however as he seems to be peaking at just the right time and will now bid to defend his title in next weekend’s decider.

Dolores Ruth had stated during the week that Razldazl Rioga was really bouncing and it was evident on Saturday night as he produced his finest performance of the year when making every inch in the opening semi final.

Taking a flier from trap two, Razldazl Rioga easily cleared his rivals to the turn and thereafter he was always in command. Knockglass Billy gave chase throughout, but he had no answer to Rioga, who looked right back to himself as he hit the line three lengths clear in a superb 28.24. There was a great battle for second spot as Knockglass Billy held off the late charge of the always third Tinas Nova by a neck.



HOUSE UPSETS ELIMINATED VIC

The biggest shock of the classic came fifteen minutes later as Ballymac Vic failed to qualify behind an impressive Boherna House, who continued his unbeaten run through the competition. The latter hit the ground running from trap three to set the pace in the opening yards and this was to prove the downfall of Ballymac Vic.

The hot favourite did recover well from his moderate start to move second before the corner, but he was to have little luck in running thereafter. Boherna House set the pace to the bend, but Ballymac Vic was just a length behind at this point.

Then came one of the most decisive moments in the contest. With no room available up the inside, Ballymac Vic was forced to check wide, losing momentum in the process. This allowed Boherna House to extend his lead into the back straight.

Ballymac Vic was challenging again by halfway, but now he had Allen Master to contend with up his inner, while Boherna House continued to dictate at the head of proceedings. It was at the third turn that the outcome of the race was really decided.

As Ballymac Vic attempted to move upsides the leader, he was again forced to check his stride and he lost ground to sit on the outside of the chasing pack. Boherna House was still the one to catch, but he had no intention of letting his lead slip. The Rachel Wheeler trained star dug deep to repel the challenge of Allen Master by a length in 28.50.

A length behind the front two, Confident Rankin won the race for third. The luckless Ballymac Vic came home last after losing any chance he had at the penultimate bend.



Draw for Saturday’s decider:

1 Knockglass Billy

2 Allen Master

3 Confident Rankin

4 Boherna House

5 Tinas Nova

6 Razldazl Rioga

VIC says it missed the kick so why as got ep bk3 as comments
Who the **** put them comments on over in Ireland they are ****
lots of things get never showed! can't understand that comment!
Rioga looked lame thought out goes on takes it semi it's bamy !

No bok Irish, youre just a wrong un.

Rioga does produce the odd below par run but is capable of bouncing back immediately.

Vic most unlucky when stopped in his tracks when coming through to win at three-quarters, imo.

Pleased my 33/1 Allen Master and 12/1 Knockglass Billy in final but they really need Rioga to slip up wearing stripes

Rioga a different dog last night he ran on really well; Vic not blessed with track craft..very hard to call the final maybe Rioga ..it would be a good judge to price up the final.

Got Rioga totally wrong, had a great draw but ran diabolical the previous week. Hope Skippy wins the Laurels

1 Knockglass Billy 4/1

2 Allen Master 9/2

3 Confident Rankin 4/1

4 Boherna House 9/4

5 Tinas Nova 16/1

6 Razldazl Rioga 3/1      P.POWER THIS MORNING    ALSO OFFERING 4/1= 8/1 AT GOODWOOD SP ONLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOL0PJgxnu4

I will probrably green up now on Rioja, been in 6 once before (last years final !) , very poor record from 5, its a different dog to last year !

Ok so 4 of my 6 got to final, and now I gonna have a go at the top 3 for the 2012 Laurels
In 3rd place Confident Rankin
In 2nd place Boherne House
In st placeand winner of 2012 LAURELS is
                 
                ALLen MASTER

The final looks desperate hard to work out. Basically it's what leads into the back is the winner in my opinion. I priced it as:

Knockglass Billy 4/1
Allen Master 6/1
Confident Rankin 4/1
Boherna House 7/2
Tinas Nova 66/1
Razldazl Rioga 7/2

100%

Rioga could get across again, he will lead Tinas Nova in 5 and could get a nice run to the corner despite being drawn 6. Boherna House has been getting it right at boxes during the comp and will have to do so again, he has probably been the most consistant. Knockglass Billy has been a bit hit and miss at traps but if getting it right has a massive chance. Confident Rankin is another that hasn't been at his best coming away but has a big chance if getting it right. Allen Master has not come away at all yet in the comp and needs to do so in the final, he has been running well though. I struggle to see a way Tinas Nova can win from the draw as i can't see him leading.

It's not a race to play at the current prices in my opinion as i think they have it pretty much right. Hopefully Allen Master can get it right on the night that matters but his draw is tough enough with pace up either side of him.

There's a couple too many up the inside that could get out and ruin Rioga's chances imho

Agree re Tina's but 66 too big , if the race was run 65 times tina would win one of them with trouble inside

So Tinas should b 65/1 iyo

I make Rioga favourite and fear him the most. Just hopeful about the chances of Allen Master or Knockglass Billy. If away in best style, Rioga should cut across them all on the run-up. Main worry for him is Knockglass Billy being with him at the bend also. Same remark for Boherna House, Billy could be the stumbling block. If Billy turns ahead though, the prize should be his

rankin more of a danger
just had a 25-1 shot win a Bags race at swindon, that was too big as well !

http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/734/341791/


preview of the Laurels Final and a talk about the greyhound industry if anyone is interested.

Interesting Dolores says about 6mins in that Rioga did have some problems but has come right now.

If your listening to her you mite need your head examined,lightning unlikely to strike twice, hope Money Talks comes for an open or maybe the Laurels Consolation as Ballymac cant run in this.................

My head is fine thanks, i said earlier on the thread i thought he didn't look himself the way he was running in earlier rounds as he was to me eyes running the bends desperate slow.

Anyway don't see any reason for her to lie as the way the dog has ran during the Laurels up to now backs up her statement as he looked a totally different dog on Saturday night.

Lightning could well strike twice (hopefully it does if Allen Master don't win) as the dog, as i said last year before the competition is made for Curraheen Park.

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Razldazl Rioga @ 20/1 - Has brilliant early, really good railer and looks made for Curraheen. Think it was a good move by Dolorus to not go for the Derby as the 550y stretches him and he now goes to Curraheen a fresh dog.


Just so i can't be accused of aftertiming

Good call pf, but he's a year older this year and needs all the luck again.
Not long to wait now, for what should be a great night.
Looks like there will be plenty shorties on the night and a short price trebbl for anyone is
Race 8 Droopys Carl for trainer linehan and JBM.(T6 Marie Gilberts dog for the 4cast).
Race 3 Leeview Dave Tr Rec last wk
Race 9 Money Talks for the KK kennel of PH
and also Linehan should win the final of the unraced with last weeks fast winner who runs from T5. but will be 1/4 shot as Curaheen bookies dont take chances.
I make Money Talks my nap of the night.

Hi Jay Re Leeview Dave in the sprint, he is without doudt the fastest dog in the race but he has a very poor draw in trap one as the sprint box trap one is probably the worst place you want to be for a sprint in Cork. Dogs very rarely ping it from there.

OK causeway I actually felt that he is the most vulnerable of the shorties.
I think T6 in the sprint puts you out on top of the hair rail and is the worst trap in Curaheen sprints, if Leeview pings from T1 he wins.............

Took the 4s Rioga, it's a more than fair price.

Hopefully Skip can find a smash break from Allen Master tonight, he needs it but the dog is capable of doing it.

Hi Jay, Some interesting statistics in 2012 from 146 races the strike rate from the sprint boxes is

1)7% 2) 18%    3) 16%    4) 27%    5) 16%    6) 16%

Trap one is very very hard to win from as they say statistics don't lie.

pf, what chance would you give Marie Gilberts other dog in R8 I think against Jimmy Barry'y Droopy's Carl ?
Stats dont lie, causeway they just fade away like good hurlers

Rubbish draw, doesn't lead doesn't win, struggle to see it leading unless it smashes.

Ta, pf

Hopeful of either Knockglass Billy or Allen Master but fear Razldazl Rioga

Butterbridge lee (nap)
Lissigiveen pet (NB)

Hopefully will be a profitable night!!

Anyone betting on the supporting races?

droopys adelaide 28.24

.30 fast

Knockglass Billy wins.

Solo on the inner, everythin went middle, Rioga was close with him to the bend but checked on the run up, trouble behind he pulled 4 clear off the 1st and won by a distance

Race 10 - The Connolly's Red Mills Irish Laurels. Final   (Grade : AA0) Flat 525
Pos.     Trap     Greyhound     Prize     Wt.       Win Time     By     Going     Est
Time     SP.     Grade     Comm.
1.      Trap 1     KNOCKGLASS BILLY      €30000.00      79      28.30             +.30 Fast      28.60       2/1f      AA0      EP,drclr
2.      Trap 6     RAZLDAZL RIOGA      €7500.00      73      28.30      7.5L      +.30 Fast      29.12       3/1      A2      EP,Blk 1
3.      Trap 4     BOHERNA HOUSE      €3750.00      78      28.30      1L      +.30 Fast      29.19       3/1      A2      SlAw,Blk 1
4.      Trap 3     CONFIDENT RANKIN      €1750.00      78      28.30      3.5L      +.30 Fast      29.44       7/2      A3      EvAw,Blk 1
5.      Trap 2     ALLEN MASTER      €1750.00      76      28.30      1L      +.30 Fast      29.51       7/1      A4      BlkRu,NvShw
6.      Trap 5     TINAS NOVA      €1750.00      67      28.30      1.5L      +.30 Fast      29.61       14/1      A4      SlAw,Blk 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9afh3YPZKE

Got a rare result i wanted in 2012. Knockglass Billy was obviously fast and showed what he could do in the Irish Sprint and Derby final night. Impressive in the first round and just because he didnt go as fast then, should never have been a 12/1 chance when i backed him towards the end. Hope he's pencilled in for Night of Stars

Well done woodie, and never in doubt.Knockglass broke very well, seemed to move outwards,which caused some scrimmaging for the middle runners, and he was electric to the bend.Slight bother on the bend behind him and as the commentator 'Tim' said 'home for all money'.Well done to owner and trainer,and he was a really well backed winner.
Bookies won well I'd say on the night,as there were some upsets.The fav in the sprint was done no favours by the camera man (can be seen clearly on video), shoving his lens in front of the traps.
Money talks was imho dis-appointing, again and has plenty to prove now.
Droopys Carl looks over-rated, and in any event is still very novicey. Trainers Linehan and Kiely had winners, and I got out on the last Linehan winner, but the 2/1 sp was a big return as early doors he was much shorter, I got 6/4. but was glad to draw.
Huge crowd and a lovely evening added to the enjoyment.

I had a feeling about Money Talks and gave Tock a chance but forgot to mention it in my comment. Glad you enjoyed the occasion Jay

You're being very harsh about Droopys Carl, he's only had 5 races and has only just turned 2. Give him some time and see how he turns out, in any case i haven't heard much hype about him anyway.

Yes maybe I am being harsh pf, but he he was the subject of some real big bets, and let his connections down.Marie Gilberts dog didn't hang about and was impressive, he looked the danger to the Fav.

Just so no-one can accuse me of aftertiming 
irishone • September 20, 2012 7:34 AM "on rioja for two in a row"
irishone • October 14, 2012 5:15 PM "I will probrably green up now on Rioja, been in 6 once before (last years final !) , very poor record from 5, its a different dog to last year "

unfortunately as predicted the draw did Rioja !

Unlucky Irish, Rioga couldnt quite get round and needed to be inside Billy, who scooted clear