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Stow_judge
07 May 12 20:59
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Top 10 RPTV pundits/presenters
1.    The Duck
2.    Rab
3.    Jason Barrasford
4.    Darrel Williams
5.    Ian Meek
6.    Hillcrest
7.    JK
8.    Hobbsy
9.    Paul Lawrence
10.    Errol
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Report michael59 May 7, 2012 9:01 PM BST
what a stupid thread , grow up stow ffs
Report Stow_judge May 7, 2012 9:03 PM BST
Top 10 lists have been an ever present part of the Betfair forum since the start and I love them.
I even have a load preserved on my website. Enjoy, you miserable s0d!
http://www.smashiton.com/others/Betfair_Top_10s.htm
Report michael59 May 7, 2012 9:14 PM BST
stow 1stly im not a miserable sod, you are missing the point as i find some top 10 lists both enjoyable and interesting, what i find disturbing is your subject matter of the top 10 presenters/ guests/ pundits on the rptv channel, i mean honestly is it a big thing naming 10 greyhound industry gravy train riders ? . i think not oh and for the record that jason bloke is an uphill gardener imho
Report Fenway May 7, 2012 9:21 PM BST
Horticultural skills are no substitute for studying the form book.
Report Stow_judge May 7, 2012 9:22 PM BST
Grin
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 7, 2012 9:25 PM BST
No cleanmo! Than!  In your top ten with Ricky! Lol
Report irishone May 7, 2012 9:26 PM BST
surprised dolores was excluded Laugh
Report Stow_judge May 7, 2012 9:35 PM BST
I forgot Ricky Blush Stick him in at 7 as Errol should not be in there anyway. For the record, Clemmo was no. 251
Report twomolinaris May 8, 2012 9:28 AM BST
dolores ruth numero uno and silly lil clemmo rock bottom of the list
Report hillcrest May 8, 2012 10:46 AM BST
nice to see me in a top 10 that does not involve drinking or eating
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 12:15 AM BST
Laugh
Report greytom May 9, 2012 12:37 PM BST
Dolores was brilliant a real class act
Report shakyshoulders May 9, 2012 2:12 PM BST
Excuse my ignorance but who is the duck
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 3:21 PM BST
Phil Donaldson. The clue is in the surname. Wink
Report Hove_Park_Upper_School May 9, 2012 5:16 PM BST
I'd put Rab, Clemmo, Hobbsy & Jason Barrasford as my joint top 4, although JK is starting to impress me.

It's obvious that certain guests are starting to be repeated more & more, which is ok, but not at the expense of new guests/trainers, which should always be the priority to keep it fresh.

On a Thursday for example, the "guest" should be someone associated with Hove/Monmore who knows their stuff, i.e. Derek Knight, Seamus Cahill or similar Cool
On a Friday for example, the "guest" should be someone associated with Romford/Sunderland, i.e. Paul Young etc...  Wink
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 6:03 PM BST
Unless they started broadcasting from the tracks, that's not too likely. The studio for the 1st year is somewhere near Tottenham Court road I believe, then it will be broadcast from RP studios at Canary Wharf. (The initial plan is for two years, you would hope this should continue, as it has been pretty successful)
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 6:07 PM BST
I'm sure many thought Jason Barrasford was a right d1ck at first. I think he is a good laugh on there at times. He is not slow to take the p1ss out of his guests or himself. A studio full of experts would normally be dull, so it's good to see a proportion of people who don't take themselves too seriously and are "themselves" rather than trying to be something they are not, or trying to be too clever.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 6:16 PM BST
I cannot understand why you want trainers on the show.

They are pretty useless in assessing the form of their own dogs and totally and utterly incompetant at assessing anyone else's. They train dogs, I bet less than 1% could make a profit from tipping dogs.

If they get trainers on please ask questions about something they are expert on ie. training dogs/running a kennel. Ask about how they train their dogs, about injuries, about dealing with owners, about cost of dogs/cost of training, different types of tracks etc. But please dont ask them to provide meaningless tips and plese stop the inane dross of emails from the likes of peter from pottersfield who thinks the 3's on favourite will run a big race in the 8pm.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 6:19 PM BST
The likes of JK, Paul Lawrence and Donaldson should be the mainstay.
Get the geezer off sky to dumb it down now and again and the odd trainer who can string 3 words together.
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 6:21 PM BST
I think you are largely right. Rab has done ok though and I'm sure Seamus would do ok. How did Mark Wallis do on there wrt selections? Remember, anyone can have a mare on a single night on there. It's over the longer term that counts. I have no interest in their tips, as long as they speak with a bit of passion about the game and have a sense of humour, I'm happy.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 6:21 PM BST
Cahill is way too boring to have on tv for more than 2 minutes, Knight would not let the viewers know who he fancied tommorow at Chester and Young is very hard work to listen to for anmore than 15 seconds. So they should immediately be struck off.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 6:23 PM BST
And just seen you put Rab up.
Good God, I wouldnt mind having a pint at the bar with him but his aftertiming/abysmal form analysis should not be glossed over just because he is funny at time.
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 7:22 PM BST
Mr Cahill is a really nice bloke. I have shared a pint or several with him on a good few occasions. Likewise, Paul Young is a top man.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 7:23 PM BST
I am not bothered whether they tip every winner from here until christmas or nil winners in their next 1000.

But I want a coherant and rational explanation for their tips.
It offends and affects my brain when they just say, I like the 6 here, `Why', `I just like him in this race', `Ok, heres the bunny'.
F OFF.

Wallis is the only trainer I have heard who tries to analyse a race in any sort of coherant way before the off.
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 7:25 PM BST
Chill out mate! It's not easy to have a view on the 25 or so races shown.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 7:28 PM BST
They could be the nicest men since Jesus Christ.
But I dont want to hear Cahill spending all night saying `wwweeeeelllll, eeeeeerrrrrrmmmmmm, I like the 6 here, you know'.
Or Young saying `well, y'know I like the 6 ere, y'know, hes got a nice draw an ey, y'know I like the 6, y'know'.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 9, 2012 7:28 PM BST
Why don't you just mute it until the dogs are in boxes Confused
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 7:34 PM BST
No I cant chill out, they are useless and it spoils my viewing when imbeciles in broadcasting terms are on a show for 3 hours!

It is the only thing on tv I watch other than racing and boxing.
I wouldnt be forced to listen to frank bruno for 3 hours straight so why should I have to listen to the likes of Rab.

Ok, what if a hove trainer was just asked about the hove races etc. That would be rather a good idea dont you think? And blanks out 50% of the nonsense/tilt inducing dross.
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 7:38 PM BST
It's also important for the main presenter to ask the right sort of questions to bring out the best from the guests. We don't actually have talented Greyhound presenters and guests queueing around the block. We all have our likes & dislikes from those that have been on there, but remember it is not an easy job. Mostly, we are surely happy to just see the Greyhound racing and the odd good guest or two is a bonus.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 7:39 PM BST
The pictures are good, the commentaries excellent, the presenters do a fine job, the continuity fine.

They just need to stop the shiiite trolling emails, ask guests questions about subjects they have a clue about and pay a young kid £50 a meeting to send in the odd report from the track.
Report Stow_judge May 9, 2012 7:41 PM BST
Three hours is a long time to fill. I think communicating with the viewers is a good thing, but you are right that they read out too much of the rubbish sent in.
Report MullahOmar May 9, 2012 7:44 PM BST
Disagree stow. I think Daryl Williams is an excellent presenter, Errol very good and Jason very decent.
JK, PL and PD are all clearly talented at studying form and conveying it in a verbal form.

Its the trainers/pr lot that need brushing up. Isnt it the producers/directors job to feed plenty of the questions for the presenters to ask/set the agenda?
Report spion-kop May 9, 2012 11:37 PM BST
i have very much enjoyed the show each time i've watched, for me clemmo is a great listen when he talks about the dogs he trained, as for tipping i never ever back tips from anyone but rab, phlipot, d ruth, and that morton lad have tipped up lots of winners.
Report SUNDERLAND GREYHOUND EXPERT May 10, 2012 9:28 AM BST
In my opinion,for what it is worth,bearing in mind my history on this topic,is that the "duck" is way way out in front of any of the others,his knowledge is brilliant,his demeanor on the couch portrays someone who knows his job, and is confident.The little Scottish person reminds me of Willie Carson,who poor Clare has to compensate for,due to lack of an education.
Report theres only one best tonic May 10, 2012 12:14 PM BST
for a bit of entertainment stick claude gardiner on the sofa can listen to him for hours
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