Milldean Panther

feel milldean will now not fulfil his promise with big race wins, hope im wrong but got a bad feeling about it

27.87 in a pre race spin at Cork tonight

WOW

27.83

Even better

Seems it was 27.87

Any doubts about the fitness of Milldean Panther were truly removed at Curraheen Park this evening when the John O’Flynn Jnr trained son of College Causeway covered the 525 yards in a sensational 27.87.

Milldean was having his first look at Curraheen but he ran it like a dream. He wasn’t the best away but quickly moved up in gears, railed magnificently and handled the track to perfection. Though no definite decision has been made, he is a possible entry for the two-run Formula One Grand Prix which commences next Saturday.

He fell out i was told

owners have two weeks to change their minds

Mildeans trial even made the rte radio sports news at 11 o clock last night

Will always be the hardest of dogs to beat with a run. Inspired effort by Piercestown Sand to beat him in the Gold Cup recently. If the Irish Derby was over 575yds you wouldnt be seeing the 6/1 quoted now, more like 7/2!

The clock in Curraheen wasn't working for his trial, well so i'm reading

If so, sure it was hand-timed competently. Probably still a fast trial?

Milldean Panther has been confirmed as a definite runner in the Formula One Grand Prix at Curraheen Park on Saturday night.

The draw for the 12 dog stake is due to be made this morning and the John O’Flynn Jnr trained dog will be among them.

Racing manager Brian Collins has had a pretty difficult task filling the €2,500 for two-run competition over 525 yards due to the likely presence of Milldean which clocked a fantastic 27.87 in a solo spin around the circuit last Saturday.

Other entries for the Formula One Grand Prix include Mines A Pint, Cambushmore, Knockglass Billy, Cooly Colebe and Castlelyons Ralf but the list will not be finalised until this morning.

Saturday’s card will comprise of seven finals in all, headed by the McCarthy Group Insurance Cork Oaks, as well as a Novice 750 and an A2 525.

Talk about picking it up! Not even able to get 12 open class dogs for the stake. Easy money!!

Race 4 The Formula One Grand Prix Semi-Final 08:40 Approx. (525 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : A0)
Trap     Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1     TOOCLOSETOCALL
Trap 2     MILLDEAN PANTHER
Trap 3     KNOCKGLASS BILLY
Trap 4     CASTLELYONS RALF
Trap 5     MINES A PINT
Trap 6     FLEETWOOD ROOT

Race 5 The Formula One Grand Prix Semi-Final 08:55 Approx. (525 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : A0)
Trap     Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1     GOWLANE HAWK
Trap 2     GLENANORE
Trap 3     COOLY COLEBE
Trap 4     AIRFORCE LIBERTY
Trap 5     CAMBUSHMORE
Trap 6     POSTMAN RAY

Cambushmore looks a speedie sort only came across him the other day when looking at other dogs!
for me mildean bypassed two big group com
If he can show real hot pace round cork why not go to wimbo?

agree fattie

Mildean 3/10 with spoils to win his heat. Cambushmore 6/4. Thought Cambushmore would be closer to 4/6 than 6/4!. Should beat this lot easily

28.46. 3.34 split.

3.52 split............

Sorry, that was the track clock! My bad :-)

Panther has a good 4 lengths in hand on Cambushmore and would be no surprise to see him go faster in the final. His 3 main rivals in the Irish Derby betting all well beaten last night, sure there's an echo in here. Still the best dog in Ireland, imo, despite Big Mike's game Easter Cup victory last night

TRAP DRAW.1 POSTMAN RAY 2 CAMBUSHMORE,3 COOLY COLLEBE 4 KNOCKGLASS BILLY,5 MILLDEAN PANTHER 6 FLEETWOOD ROOT.

Showed limited early again in my opinion, i was not impressed

nor was i pf looked very laboured going up wont get away with that in better races

Yeah he just is not going up that quick in my view, only barely managed to clear the 1 the other night. He showed great pace from halfway. I would have loved to see him entered for the 600 next week but that's obviously not an option now.

more than likely he'll be a bit sore

Plenty of time to get him ready for September, when it really counts. Panther has been getting a bit of stick coz seems he's lost a yard of early pace but his sire wasnt renowned for early sparkle either, yet College Causeway was still, arguably, the greatest Irish Derby winner of recent times!

Almost a backable price tonight ran away from em but still needs to find his trappin boots

Fell out moves rails and near last too the bend, they move off and all sorts of trouble in front of him and he ends up in the lead off the 2nd Again showed impressive gears from the 2nd as he did last week and as BJG says ran right away from them but he can't get away with going up like that when upped in class again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCGUd1ZJFCM

IMO him standing on top of the Irish derby market tells me how weak in dept  the market is at the mo, he can't be the number one Irish dog can he?

moses was on hand to aid him tonite!

Seriously lucky tonight - Hasn't got the breaking ablity he had last year for some reason!

think they must have been serious cash to to in that stake. and thats no smiley face

might be writing him off too early lads, he's had the s p u n k taken out of him big time and an injury in the last six months, we dont know how bad the injury was but i know professional footballers don't have it off the night before a game for no reason.

think we will be in awe again by december, his start just needs sharpening up and he'll be bang there at shelbourne

I'd never write him off, you can't write off a dog as fast as he is. I just have not been as impressed with him since Christmas as i was before.

i said before xmas doesnt matter how good this dog is he lacks e.p and will always have to do most races the hard way would be a absolute machine over 6 bends but that never gunna happen stud fees and all that

But College Causeway never showed too much early either. I believe the dog has been injured also. You could see a different dog come September

College Causeway never had early - this fella had and seems to av lost it

Hope he finds his trappin boots b4 the Derby cuz he wont be winnin it with too many breaks lik last sat night!

What price Milldean has a new trainer by the start of the Irish Derby?

There is no doubting he is a serious tool, but the hype surrounding him is bananas! How are we talking about him in the same breath as CC or PF, he doesn't deserve it imo?

doesnt deserve it ??? he broke the T/R at irelands premier track as a pup winning 11 straight races

Looking at times for Shelbourne Park for 2012 for 525yds
Robbiesgonegain 28.37
Droopys Jet 28.39

2011 Fast Times Bar M Panther
Royal Patrol 28.20
Tyrur Mozzletoff 28.21
Tubbertelly Dubh 28.25

No disrespect to the above dogs who are all very fast but the fact they are only a few lengths of the TR indicates to me the record isn't that astounding, Royal Patrol 3 lengths?

What time would you expect PF to do if he had them conditions on that track?

Unless he is sold or there has been a falling out why would they change trainer? He won't be improving for a change of trainer anyway!

I agree with Chopper76 in a way, the hype is unreal. As for Premier Fantasy i firmly believe had he ran on the track at Shelbourne in the last year to 2 years he would have gone under 28sec (surprise surprise )

I agree with PF and Chopper.

How much better a run was it than Leeview Jet in Drumbo or Catunda Harry in Limerick?

Shelbourne is not far off being as fast as those tracks these days and certainly not 20-30 spots slower.

PF would do 27.90 at spk the way it's running and would go under 27.80 at limerick/cork......imo.

John O’Flynn Snr yesterday reported that Milldean Panther will bypass the Larry Dunne Open 525 which is due to commence this weekend and instead will have a thorough check up to determine if something is preventing him from breaking in his normal manner.

Though thrilled with the dog’s flying victory in the final of the Formula One Grand Prix at Curraheen Park on Saturday, John admitted that “we are puzzled why he is not getting out of the boxes better. He is bouncing here and appears to be in perfect condition and the times he is doing in his races prove that there is nothing major wrong. We are just wondering if something is preventing him from getting out of the boxes faster than he has been doing this year”.

On Saturday night he trailed the field in joint last place until the waters parted ahead of him on the bend. He then dived through the gap and left his rivals struggling in his wake as he raced to a seven length victory in 28.24.

Said John, “We won’t race him on Saturday but will give him a trial around Shelbourne in advance of having his next race there”.

It was a good weekend for the Tullaroan kennels as Milldean Tally landed a little touch in the Novice 750 at Curraheen on Saturday while Dear Pa was an impressive third round winner in the Red Mills Produce Stakes at Clonmel on Sunday.

Dear Pa is unbeaten in the Produce Stake and, while he has a slight problem, he is expected to be ready for duty on Sunday evening.

Clive Francis, joint owner of Milldean Panther, has confirmed that the brilliant tracker has now joined the Dolores Ruth kennels.
Rumours had been rife for some days to this effect and official confirmation came this morning in the form of a statement from Francis. It said:
“Following previous reports from John O’Flynn Jnr, we can confirm that the ongoing back problems and a recent injury to the Achilles tendon to Milldean Panther are evident that he has incurred serious career threatening injuries.
“With Milldean Panther’s best interests at the forefront; we have taken Veterinary Advice to treat his injuries first. Panther will go through intensive Veterinary Treatment and Physiotherapy, before any decision is taken on his future.
“Due to the extent of his injuries a decision has been made by his owners to put Milldean Panther under the care of Dolores Ruth. With veterinary supervision, Panther will be treated at Dolores Ruth’s establishment, where he will undergo intensive treatment & physiotherapy. Dolores has a specialty in bringing back badly injured dogs to soundness.
“Should the dog make a recovery, decisions on his future career will be made at that stage. There also has been a change of ownership for Milldean Panther.
“We would like to take this opportunity to thank John O’Flynn Jnr for looking after Milldean Panther”.

wonder how much of a share she has demanded

Badly injured?

I must admit the owners have not covered themselves in glory from start to finish in this. Between drawing as many straws as possible, doing the Spoils deal for an easy buck and now moving trainers, they are not the type that I would wish a whole lot of success for. Seem to have really tried to milk him for all he was worth. Maybe all of us would have done that, but I doubt it.

Milldean Panther. The biggest anti-climax in dog racing history?

dolores has the dog for over a week now

the biggest anti climax in dog racing history? how do you work that out? the dog is clearly not right thats plain to see.if you ask me john flynn can get a dog ready for 4 or 5 runs but doesnt seem to be able to keep a dog fit or know when a dogs not fit? after all tally,pa,panther none of them in derby are they? not having a pop just my opinion.

you would have thought she could have kept razldazl will fit wouldnt you.
Dear pa much better kept to 525

Youre welcome to your opinion Company. Reckoned i would get some response after a comment like that but he was billed as the greatest since Premier Fantasy and think we have just been fobbed off with stories of breeding, retirement etc. There were lengthy discusions of a Panther with Eden Star match etc, but it's all been a waste of ink and time. I still rate the dog but not sure i believe what people say anymore. Seriously injured? Did he hobble round to the pick up in the International? And, i'm not just talking through my pocket. How on earth can they think of retiring not really that long out of puppy status? Like i said, anti-climax. Sure the ones who really know whats happening think we all came down on the last shower!

one out of 10 or how ever many she got running not bad is it? pa has under achieved all year.woody my view is the dogs not been right all year so whys he been running? cause the trainer couldnt get him right and doesnt know how to get him right.thats what it looks like to me.

if your talking under achievers look no further than George

i know what your saying mesi point taken.i still think panther a flying machine though

think hes a very fast dog probably the fastest,but whoever has him, i cant see them making him a better dog to the bend,and in his better class races is where he was lacking

An Oaks winner from nowhere and a freak of a dog both come along at the same time for a relatively small trainer, pure luck, don't think so!
Not my view but a lot of lads in the game who I have a lot of respect for. Ms Ruth has the midas touch imo but she will need it with a dog who has been mis managed and possibly juiced to the max

Juiced

What are you implying Mister Chopper

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Jul 30, 2012 -- 8:32PM, Chopper76 wrote:

An Oaks winner from nowhere and a freak of a dog both come along at the same time for a relatively small trainer, pure luck, don't think so!Not my view but a lot of lads in the game who I have a lot of respect for. Ms Ruth has the midas touch imo but she will need it with a dog who has been mis managed and possibly juiced to the max

walofs

Not sure i agree with you Company and siding with Mesi. Dont see how Panther couldnt be right with those flying trials and as Mesi says, he just cant go the pace to the bend with speedy types. Think if he had been in the Derby though, he could have kept qualifying, reached Gold Cup final and anything could have happened Derby final night, if things went his way. I could be wrong, but i didnt hear anything about injury immediately after his last race?, even though it looked a shade below par run

Who said he got injured in the Dundalk International?? Let's put that race into perspective, he had an awful draw, a truely shocking draw and as said by many on here was a joke of a price on the draw alone. As for the race he didn't get a great start which is crucial with the short run to the bend and got early trouble. Quail Hollow led around (Cox Cup Champion) and won. He was followed by Cabra Millie (Oaks runner up, Christmas Oaks finalist) and then Milldean Tally (Oaks winner), they are 3 top class dogs who all get the 550y well. The 3 of those dogs who turned in front of him had all been racing recently while Milldean Panther had not had a race in almost 3 months so it's fair to assume they would have had a fitness advantage over him. I thought he ran a perfectly respectable race, not what some wanted to see but not as bad as some where making out.

I can't recall them saying when or how he got injured. All i seem to remember was it was in the RP on the Friday that he was going to trial at Shelbourne the next night but then was pulled out that morning due to injury. The story for the paper would have gone to print earlier on the Thursday evening than the story broke about the injury so i don't see anything untoward.

Well, he must have been injured walking to the newsagents for the morning papers then!

I didn't realise dogs only got injured in races, my bad

woodmanchester • July 30, 2012 7:38 PM BST

...... but it's all been a waste of ink and time.


....most of what you write is woody

"Most of what you write is Woody". That implies it's not all a waste of ink and time, cheers Irish!

Woody what has Ballotelli, grass, 25 grand and darts got to do with Galway races ?

two mancs making total fools of themselves in the main stand yesterday singing that stupid song

Ireland's my best bet for trying to find my stolen wheel-trims!