sorry dark looks like he is leaving but still can u explain ur axe to grind with the rm????

irishone 12 Dec 11 04:02
Kyme and Wellon 
how long have they been there anakin ?

See they was at it again last night 1st Race A8 wins nearly 8 Lengths 1/2 on 29:50 less whatever going allowance they want to give it to get the trainer out of trouble did our friend go down the line again.

two questions foryou army did you ask for a bet.were you knocked back? answer to both is no ,so whats your beef with the track bookies.ask for the grader giving it half a chance it looked  a penalty kick

your opinion will get you skint  but then you dont have to put yours on show .if you were not involved in the race what price does it matter to you?

arrysarmy what have the track bookies done to you.you seem to blame them for all that is going on up there
would just like to point out that they are and have been for sometime now the best bookies in the country
percentage wise on bags meetings.

arrysarmy i agree the punters do deserve value lets talk about that shall we
if in your opinion the dog on saturday night was a 6/4 shot then surely with the dog being returned at 4/6
there was value to be had on the other 5 dogs yet no punter wanted to back them!also i can tell you for a factthat each of the 3 bookies on saturday night lost money on that 1st race

and as for **** turpin wearing a mask the returns on a night time up there are comparable to the rest of the country although should you ever want to come join the ranks of the bookmakers you will be welcomed

that could be said about most tracks management, most of what gets said is only through jealousy and bitterness too many chiefs and not enough indians,i never said the bookies were complaining i said some of their prices are outrageous at times and it makes it look bad

if the dogs record is that bad then how does it open up at that price? the 10 lengths is something the trainer should explain not the management they never made it find the time and win by that far

arrysarmy • February 20, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
"it doesnt matter that much to me its the spinless keyboard warriors who thrive on it and cause problems for others"

Anakin_
21 Sep 11 15:31
"I thought it was about time we had our own forum, vent feelings, opinions, compare notes etc, seems to be a few of us about on the forums so lets have ago!!!"

mmmmm

same again tonight the place is buzzing lately !!!!!

Massive Jackpot running on tonight will be nearly 20k up for grabs.come racing

3. *Hall Green Stadium – CLONCUNNY MAEVE – Professional Trainer Mr P Clarke

Professional Trainer Mr Paul Clarke was found in breach of rules 152(i) and (ii), 174 (i) (a), 214 and 217 of the GBGB rules of racing in that a urine sample taken from the greyhound CLONCUNNY MAEVE at Hall Green Stadium on 12 October 2011 was analysed by LGC Ltd as containing the presence of caffeine, theophylline, theobromine and paraxanthine; and that he allowed a substance to be administered that could affect the performance and/or well being of the greyhound.
Mr Clarke and Mr Robert Coulthard Racing Manager of Hall Green Stadium apologised for their non-attendance. Area Stipendiary Steward Mr Jack Robinson was in attendance.
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In his statement Mr Clarke said he could offer no explanation for the positive result of the urine test.
The Committee took evidence from Dr Higgins (IDMA) who stated that the four substances are methylxanthines and that theophylline, theobromine and paraxanthine were metabolites. Dr Higgins further stated that caffeine was a stimulant and that the identification of caffeine and three metabolites in the urine indicated that a significant dose of caffeine had been given to the greyhound possibly with the intention of improving its performance.
Jack Robinson gave evidence that there had been considerable support for CLONCUNNY MAEVE in the betting markets. The dog opened at 5/2 and started at 7/4 favourite, finishing 5th of 6 in a 480 metre A5 flat race.
Having considered the circumstances of the case and the presence of a banned substance in the dog's urine the Committee ordered that Mr Clarke be severely reprimanded and fined the sum of £1,000.
In fixing the penalty the Committee noted that a stimulant had been administered to CLONCUNNY MAEVE and that there was considerable support for the dog in the betting market. Further, Mr Clarke did not attend the inquiry to offer any explanation. The Committee gave consideration to the withdrawal of Mr Clarke’s licence, but in light of the fact that there were no previous breaches recorded against him ordered that he be severely reprimanded. The Committee wish to make it clear that any further breaches of this nature may result in the withdrawal of Mr Clarke’s licence.

4. *HALL GREEN STADIUM – WATCHFOR TWIGLET – Professional Trainer Mr S Deakin / Kennelhand Mr I Girling

Professional Trainer Mr Simon Deakin was found in breach of rules 174 (i) (b), and 217 and Kennelhand Mr Ian Girling was found in breach of rules 152 (i) and (ii), 174 (i) (a), 174 (iii), 174 (v), 174 (ix), 174 (xii) (a), and 174 (xiv) (b) of the GBGB rules of racing in that a urine sample taken from the greyhound WATCHFOR TWIGLET at Hall Green Stadium on 3 October 2011 was analysed by LGC Ltd as containing the presence of timolol.
Mr Deakin was in attendance. Mr Girling had notice of the inquiry but was not in attendance. Mr Robert Coulthard, Racing Manager at Hall Green Stadium apologised for his non-attendance. Area Stipendiary Steward Mr Jack Robinson was in attendance.
Mr Deakin stated that he had been able to offer no explanation for the presence of timolol at the local enquiry on 7 November 2011, but on 11 November 2011 Jack Robinson had received a telephone call from kennelhand Ian Girling who told him that he had administered the drug having been bribed £200 so to do. Mr Deakin stated that he had known Mr Girling for 25 years since they had been at school together. He stated that Mr Girling had a drink and gambling problem and he had given Mr Girling a considerable amount of money over the years.
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Mr Girling refused to reveal the identity of the person who gave him the bribe despite been required to do so by Jack Robinson.
WATCHFOR TWIGLET started at 3/1 and finished 3rd of 6 in a 480m A6 flat race. It recorded a calculated time of 29.72 seconds as compared to its best time of 29.39 seconds recorded four days earlier on 28th September. At the local inquiry Mr Deakin accepted that WATCHFOR TWIGLET had run poorly as had another of his dogs FOXYS RED DEVIL which had run in the same race.
The Committee took evidence from Dr Higgins (IDMA) who stated that timolol is a beta-adrenoceptor antagonist (beta blocker) which is used in humans to treat high blood pressure and angina. It is also used for glaucoma. Beta blockers are sometimes known as ‘stoppers’ as they lower the heart rate and can reduce performance.
Having considered the circumstances of the case and the presence of a banned substance in the dog's urine the Committee ordered that Mr Deakin be reprimanded and fined the sum of £500 and that Mr Girling be made a warned off person indefinitely.
In deciding these penalties the Committee considered that in the case of Mr Girling this was a deliberate administration of a drug for gain which severely undermined the integrity of greyhound racing and seriously threatened the welfare of the dog.
In Mr Deakin’s case the Committee accepted that timolol was administered by Mr Girling without Mr Deakin’s knowledge but that as the trainer Mr Deakin was responsible for the dogs in his charge and the GBGB rules of racing impose strict liability. Mr Deakin was very ill-advised to employ Mr Girling in any capacity and the fact that he did so made Mr Girling’s breaches of the rules possible. The Committee took into account the reference that had been sent in support of Mr Deakin by Mr Coulthard, the racing manager at Hall Green.

5. HALL GREEN STADIUM

Professional Trainer Mr Simon Deakin was found in breach of rules 152(i) and (ii) and 184B(i) and Mr Ian Woodworth was found in breach of rules 152 (i) and (ii), rules 152(i) and (ii), 174 (v) and 184B(ii) of the GBGB rules of racing into the fact that Mr Deakin had layed bets on two greyhounds in his care and that Mr Woodworth, a kennelhand employed by Mr Deakin, had layed bets on numerous greyhounds in his care.
Mr Deakin was in attendance. Mr Woodworth sent his apologies, but explained he could not attend because his wife had given birth that morning. He was content for the inquiry to proceed in his absence. Mr Robert Coulthard Racing Manager at Hall Green Stadium apologised for his non-attendance. Area Stipendiary Steward Mr Jack Robinson was in attendance.
Duncan Gibson, Manager of Welfare and Integrity Service gave evidence that following the positive analysis of a urine sample taken from greyhound WATCHFOR TWIGLET an email was sent to Betfair Integrity Department requesting exchange betting information on the 12.04 pm race at Hall Green
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Stadium. The initial betting analysis did not highlight any suspicious activity on the part of Mr Deakin or Mr Woodworth. A formal request for information was made to Betfair by the GBGB under the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU). This information was shared with the GBGB on 11 November 2011. This revealed that Mr Deakin had layed two greyhounds under his control (AERO FLASH and ROYAL CHAMPION) to lose the sums of £2 and £40 respectively, and that Mr Woodworth had layed a number of greyhounds while under his care as a licensed kennelhand, for sums ranging from £100 to £8.
Mr Deakin admitted that he had layed both dogs and stated that he had realised that he was in breach of the rules, but asserted that both instances were a result of human error. He had intended to back the dogs but had pressed the wrong button on his mobile.
In his statement Mr Woodworth accepted that he was aware that he should not lay greyhounds in his care, but he said that such bets formed a very small percentage of his total betting activity. He also stated that he had never stopped a greyhound in his life, but he believed that the dogs that he layed had very little chance on form and the way they had been graded. Mr Deakin said that he did not think Mr Woodworth was aware of the seriousness of laying dogs in his care.
Having considered the circumstances of the case the Committee ordered that Mr Deakin be cautioned (but not fined as the Committee accepted his explanation that the bets had been accidental) and that Mr Woodworth be made a disqualified person for a period of 18 months and fined the sum of £600.
In Mr Deakin’s case the Disciplinary Committee pointed out that it regards any case of a trainer laying dogs in his charge very seriously as tending to undermine the integrity and good reputation of greyhound racing. Having said that the Committee accepted that Mr Deakin had only layed dogs twice and that on both occasions did so through his own carelessness. The Committee was satisfied that Mr Deakin understood the seriousness of the breaches and that he had taken steps to ensure that there was no repetition. The Committee also noted that Mr Deakin had given Jack Robinson every assistance with his enquiries.
In Mr Woodworth’s case the Committee found that these were deliberate and intentional breaches of the rules of racing. The Committee regards the laying of dogs in the charge of a licensed kennelhand very seriously as tending to undermine public confidence in the integrity and good reputation of greyhound racing, but the Committee took into account the fact that Mr Woodworth admitted the breaches and that there were no other breaches recorded against him. Given his personal circumstance the Committee made no criticism of his non-attendance at the inquiry.

WHY DID THE RACING MANAGER NOT ATTEND ANY ?

dark side with 5 meetings a week and cards to grade maybe he was way busy to just take a day off for a trip to london also what u left out and id imagine it was on purpose is that he sent a very supporting statement backing his trainer why did u leave this part out??? to cause needless trouble again????

oops my mistake yes 4 meetings thanks for correcting me wilson nobody likes a smartarse lol

TAKEN FROM THE RACING POST
SATURDAY MARCH 31st 2012



Hall Green Stadium

York Road Birmingham

A vacancy exists for a

Contract trainer

at this busy stadium. We race two evenings and
two daytime BAGS meetings a week.

Applicants or for further
information, please contact
the Racing Manager
Robert Coulthard on
0870 840 7371
or by email to

hallgreen.racingoffice@virgin.net


A few tips to anybody thinking of applying never question the RM thats the golden rule if you can get hold of him espically weekends or when on Holidays and if you dogs are wide runners telling him inside and let him work it out because if you say wide he will put them middle, never complain about his grading (if you can get hold of him) because if you do he will not put that dog on for a few weeks in punishment and grade against the kennel, if you dog is thrown in and strangers put over 20k on Betfair it better win.

IN OTHER WORDS YES MEN NEED ONLY APPLY

See in racing post today other hall green trainer caught with illegal substances are all the trainers using it place a shambles lets have a clean out but start at the top because these people are not doing there job

So as this trainer been stopping his dogs with beta blockers how can he continue to stay at hall green till end of may is the RM going to show some balls and get rid tonight, where is arrysarmy to defend the place this topic to hot for him

Last night Hall Green was rammed, five deep at the bars...why they failed to put more bar staff on or open the second bar below beggars belief. Having said that I thought the graded card was excellent and in the vast majority of races the form held up. There is a clear bias it seems on trap 2 and 4....several times you see a string of winners from those traps. Forget trap six, typical example was the last race where six had a very strong make up but due to almost every trap six forgetting to turn left at the first it could be ignored. I suspect it is the style of grading rather than any track bias.  I dont know the inside story with those that run the track but we had a great night and well worth the journey up from London.