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Which were/are your top six favourite bookies at the cherries?
Which were/are your top six favourite bookies at the cherries?
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slippy blue you must have been a serial loser with him
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An extremely predictable response really by you and a bit unnecessary, he and JH both used to ask me to mark their cards.
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he was the other bookie I could not stand john Humphreys mind you that marathon they had at catford he had reason not to like me
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I found most of the bookies at Don and Catford were horrendous. No names but the 'without' at Don was a right shark
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Sam and Alec the best by a country mile
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john power end of
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Saw John Power at both Hackney and Wembley...he had it all tbf...brutally strong, opinionated and put on a terrific show.....Morris at Wimbledon...the gentleman bookmaker, not everyones cup of tea, but an impressive businessman who loved the game. As Roo says, talking about these times seems almost made up these days, cannot believe some of the sums that used to change hands without anyone batting an eyelid really...
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isn't that the difference? no point having an opinion and shouting it if 3 judges want 2000-1000 and the other scampi punters want 50p on the others
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Stan Hamer
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Mr Moustache = Philly Marsh..... Team Hyman!!!
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Steve Ketteley at romford
'you win when you lose when you bet without the favourite' silly koont he was |
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Not many mentions for Gary Wiltshire which is surprising.
Ray Rains at Romford, he always took a bet. Anyone remember him? |
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Slippy,
I remember Ray Rains. Pretty sure, but not totally certain, that he was betting on the rails at the 1986 Newmarket July meeting. It had been a bad meeting for punters and on the last race on the last day (then a Thursday) word had got out for the favourite - an unraced horse in what was a maiden. I went to have £200 on at 6/4 or thereabouts with Rains but he had run out of tickets. However, he recognised me from the dogs and put the bet down to 'leather' - because I was wearing a leather jacket. Horse lost but imagine that today - a track bookie running out of tickets!! (not that they use the same type of tickets anymore). I am also pretty sure that I have got a book about how to win at greyhound racing which has a cover photo of a dog running at Hackney but in the foregound is just enough of the Ray Rains joint to see his name. |
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Nice story The Knight, running out of tickets indeed! I thought he stood at Hackney as well but wasn't sure, I always bet with John Power. Plenty of on course bookies on the horse racing forum, they pretty much all say the game is in a bad way for them with the high exes and turnover down. What's the name of that book by the way? I'll have a look out for it.
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Ray Rains, Alan Henderson the grumpy Scottish one, Hyman, Steve Simmons and there was one more. I think Dave something stood there, an ex-trainer, fantastic laugh.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Win-Greyhound-Racing-Edwards-Clarke/dp/0948353643/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_1
Slippy, Type the above into your browser and you will go to a picture of the book... Christ, how I miss those days. |
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Old Cheapside Romford....
Hyman, Barton, Henderson, Dennis, Rains..... Simmons replaced Dennis when he chinned The Chef!!! Ray Rains (Chantal ) was a right miserable git.... You to always moan if we backed a winner with him... I swore at him once for knocking me back a bet.... He brought up the fact that he laid a winner to me (£300/£200) about a month previous..... No one likes to lose but he rivalled Roger, Bigtime!!!! Dave the ex trainer currently helps out Steve Simmons.... He's the best judge in the country, never backs a loser, and has an opinion on every race... They should get him on RPTV... Great Personality and guaranteed to go through the card at both meetings!!! |
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Anyone remember jim from Shaw a belle vue bookmaker many years ago,great bloke.with his tic tac man Ray.
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I must know you MB
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DML, In the good old Cheapside Days, I was one of a mob of upto 15ish regulars that were all ages
and very loud..... Scarface Matty, Slow Count Colin, Crayford Charlie (Grant), Fat Girdy, Piggott, Custard, Ginger Micky, **** Ian, Boring Brian, Little Fat Tony, Black Tony, Dave & Reggie, Moggy, Jeff the Canary, Forecast King Paul... Sorry if I forgot anyone!!! Lord Baron beating Three Cheers, Greenfield Crack v Own Magic and Pantile beating all the Star Hurdlers.... Kilbarry Six.... Romfords Greatest ever dog!!! (My first one)... I forgot Curly John from my list....  |
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I remember when I started going to Yarmouth in the early seventies there was 8 books . From memory they were
Tommy Goulding Ted Waite John Gallant Dave Richards Jack Cook Albert Eagle Dougie Toft Dougie pye. Seem to Remember John Gallant was the leading layer,a proper old school bookmaker from Norwich. Dougie Toft was always happy to take a decent bet. |
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MB, did you know Lal and John?
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not one mention from bookies at Elland Road Leeds stadium
Colin Webster Leslie Steele Bob Kett Bill Provan the first two were probably the biggest layers of there day at any track. |
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Huggy,
Do you know if that was the same Leslie Steel who was / went on to be the Billy Hills horse racing course rep? Is he still alive, do you know? |
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As I am aware Leslie Steele had no association with Billy Hills. If we are talking about the same person he walked with a bad limp and was always in the White house pub in Oakwood Leeds after his jaunts at northern horse race meetings.
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I knew Colin Webster from the horse tracks, I've never been to Leeds in my life Huggy dog track or otherwise! He was a very good bookmaker, real old school.
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slippy he was a big pal of jack ramsden the fearless gambler and owner of many good horses aswell as being posh birds(EMMA) father
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the knight
I think you are thinking of Leslie Spencer |
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Huggy
the reason Leslie had a limp was due to a nasty car accident, he was long odds on not to make it through! he was an excellent bookmaker but a right miserable so and so when he was losing. p.s. re an old thread were kev and gus the lads I referred to? |
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Ronnie
Apparently not |
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Thanks Huggy. You are correct...my memory is starting to go!!
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Lal & John?? Can't place them DML??
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Anyone care to update us on this Midlands collection:
Solly Wernick (cracking looking daughter) Hall Green regulars: Nick Rose Wells Saunders Ian Foster And Micky Fletcher the asparagus kid? |
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Someone on the horse racing forum the other day said he saw The Asparagus Kid at Cheltenham this year.
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Okay Slippy Blue, looks like one of natures fighters. Never beaten?
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Eddie Rabbit I remember Jim from Shaw thought he was a miserable sod.He used to bet cheap ring next to Talbot and near the twins
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A good thread but the dates of posting seem a bit mixed up.
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Corrected now I think.
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Just stumbled onto this thread, by accident.
Understandably punters /bookies bemoaning 10 years ago the state of the game compared to yesteryear so heaven only knows what they would say now. Used to attend London Tracks and others nearby and they were good days. :) Never took to Wimbledon , always seemed dark and dreary with little atmosphere as opposed to Catford high up on that main terrace , which along with Hove, had the best view and the banter there was great between THe Punters and also between Punters and The Bookies on that side. It seemed that most punters played there although outsiders went to The Main Ring through habit and maybe wanting a thick bet with JH or David Richardson or the others. You could always get on Both sides as everyone knew Punters would, rightly, walk with their money. The place was full of characters from The Judges to Rossi and his crew. The Greek Guys and THe Turks. THe Gasman and Co-hort. The Sittingbourne crew would be there and Peanuts and his mob. Enjoyed watching them all. Always got on with the Books there too who all played the game like Tony Bryerly , Peter Martinelli, The Hoopers, Kim Johnson. and even 17 years after it closed I still here people rueing its closure along with all the other great tracks gone in London like White City/Wembley/Hackney/Harringay and THe Stow... Memory Lane is a good place to go sometimes. Be Lucky :) |