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rearer
08 Nov 09 21:25
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Guys

Must offer up apologies first for this post but really have too.

As most will know I was very kindly donated a pup last year from Seamus McCloskey of which was to be sold and proceeds donated to Macmillan Cancer Support, I did have a buyer but sadly he lost his job not long after and had asbsolutely no option but to pull out of buying her, to be honest I told him that no one would want him going into debt for her and not to feel bad, which he was BTW.

Anyhow I reared her on at my expense which I had no problems with at all and I thought about asking a trainer to train her for nothing with all prize monies going to the charity, I was also going to syndicate shares in her out with all proceeds going to the charity, I did however decide that I would be more comfortable with doing this after she was schooled, I sent Daisy away to the schooler and within 2 days she dislocated a toe and ended up at the vets and the last digit had to be removed, although not exactly overjoyed I knew it was nothing serious and she would be fine to race, through this I was paying her kennel keep as well as the £250 vet bill and although I have enough of my own to pay, I never once moaned about it as it had to be done, that was till today.

This morning Daisy must have rapped her leg on the bed front(Wood) and it came up like a balloon, she was popped in the car and taken to the vets, the time she got there it had doubled in size and after an X-Ray it was diagnosed as a broken bone just below the wrist, this will need to be pinned as the vet says it cannot be just put in a cast, to say I am gutted is an understatement and the bill thats going to come is not what I am looking forward too, It is bad enough when it is 1 of your own and you need to just get on with it but as Daisy is not technically mines I just cannot believe it, as I said already I dont have a problem with all the costs accrued so far but this is going to be a tough 1.

Daisy will be operated on monday or tuesday.

Anyhow I was wondering if anyone would like to contribute towards her bill, I know it may seem cheeky but as I said she is not even mines, if anyone would like too it would be very very much appreciated and once I know what the bill is I will post it up, any donations can be made payable to the vets and you would be more than welcome to check if she is infact in the vets.

Thanks for reading this.
Dave
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Report Fashion Fever November 8, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
dave will you pay my lecki bill ?
Report The Racing Manager November 8, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
Sorry but Im sure you could have found a buyer after the guy pulled out easily enough but youve kept it. Would imagine it is well bred and you want to breed from her but want others to pay for the op. Tell you what, Ill make a donation to Macmillan instead.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
ill fated feel sorry thread.
Report [x] These checkboxes suck November 8, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
Rearer

Weren't YOU the one who had a go at Clipboard because he ran his ** through season so the kennel bill would be less, claiming responsibilities of the owner and welfare etc?

Now you're the one coming on here begging for people to contribute to a vets bill.

You couldn't make it up
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
Yes ty checkboxes I remember that. And as you can see if you look up her recent form she is now running well.
Report rearer November 8, 2009 10:03 PM GMT
Phone up the ICC and ask them who owns Macmillan Daisy, if you cant be bothered you will find I had paid for the registering of her and the syndicate name shes under which is " The Macmillan Supporters Syndicate", I registered her on 23/07/09.
Report JackS November 8, 2009 10:03 PM GMT
You were asking for grief by posting this on here. Would be absolutely astounded if anyone contributes anything bar giving you abuse.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
rearer. You really think I will help u out. I would rather contribute to the charity myself. I wasted a phone call on you. Which cost me about 6 quid because you kept rambling on. I got abuse off you on here as well. Its my choice as a owner what I want to do. And it has done her no harm as she has refound her form. And tbh is a better dog now.
Report The Racing Manager November 8, 2009 10:11 PM GMT
I dont care about the ICC or anything else.

Who are the members of the syndicate? You say you were going to syndicate it but you didnt so as the syndicate head you are the sole owner so have the benefits or the costs. We all have costs in this game and you have fallen unlucky but it is your responsibilty. Ive got 3 dogs on the sick list at 19 pound a day, off for 8 weeks, 6 weeks and 5 weeks, can you help me with that?
Report rearer November 8, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
Check

MASSIVE difference.. CB owns his ** and it IS his responsibility, however I DONT own Daisy and have been left with her, do you honestly think I'd be putting this type of post up if she was mines, try taking your blinkers off for 2 seconds.

DD.. That coming from the Forum clown is laughable.

Jacks.. Your probably right and Yes I did expect some grief but do not feel guilty or wrong, as already stated she has been left with me.
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
This reminds me of the time i won a lot of money on the football pools
My wife said "what are we going to do about the begging letters?"
I said "dont worry we can still keep sending them!"
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
I took over a dog for somebdoy that died on Cov. A few years back. I wouldnt come on here asking for contributions. incidently he died of cancer.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:17 PM GMT
somebody*
Report The Racing Manager November 8, 2009 10:17 PM GMT
Who is the head of the syndicate and how many members are there. You stated YOU WERE going to syndicate but didnt and then you say the dog is registered to a syndicate so I am confused
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:19 PM GMT
Forum clown? hmm well u making yourself just like that now imo.
Report JackS November 8, 2009 10:19 PM GMT
"Jacks.. Your probably right and Yes I did expect some grief but do not feel guilty or wrong, as already stated she has been left with me."

Didn't want you to feel guilty or wrong. Everyone has financial hardship at times. Just surprised you expected any compassion from nameless forumites.
Report [x] These checkboxes suck November 8, 2009 10:19 PM GMT
rearer 08 Nov 23:14
Check

MASSIVE difference.. CB owns his ** and it IS his responsibility, however I DONT own Daisy and have been left with her, do you honestly think I'd be putting this type of post up if she was mines, try taking your blinkers off for 2 seconds.


Hang on. I assume you registered her and the syndicate. So whether you like it or not, you're responsible.

Before you start giving lessons about welfare and responsibility consider your own actions.
Report The Racing Manager November 8, 2009 10:23 PM GMT
Jacks

He wants nameless forumites to help him so has to accept any criticism thrown at him. Its a forum and people are allowed to air their views though I would like him to answer my questions rather than skirting around picking on DD
Report maddogmandan November 8, 2009 10:26 PM GMT
think this will get to over a 100
Report DaveEdwards November 8, 2009 10:26 PM GMT
If you can't afford the vets bill then can't you take the dog to one of those charitable places that treat animals for free? Just a thought. Might not get the dog back into racing shape, but maybe you ought to think about just getting the dog well and have it as a pet perhaps?
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 8, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
nice too see soo many helpful forumites here!!! think abt the poor dog ffs, a dog which most of you cretins waste your £2 bets on each day!!! without the hounds you couldnt have your 2 bob bets.
Keep this thread updated with a total dave and i will try and get a cheque to you, all the best
Report rearer November 8, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
Racing Manager

I have enough of my own dogs without taking on other peoples, the reason she came was for the charity and once she got to near 12 months old I felt the best results for the charity would be to syndicate her, I did post it on here and got some positive responses but it was as a racer, thats why she was being schooled first, obviously shes not exactly the luckiest ** alive and maybe is not meant to race.
I know how hard it is and feel sorry for your own bad luck and respect anyones right to decline anything.

DD.. Yer getting a set of bolloks I see.
Report DaveEdwards November 8, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
Who are you calling cretins? I thought mine was the most constructive bit of advice on here. At least I had the dogs welfare at heart.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
Well this thread is asking for it. U come here begging. I took a dog over in the past for a owner who had died of cancer. You are responisble for this dog clearly. Thats it Ive had enough this guy is Dave from Questhouse Kennels.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:36 PM GMT
he should be able to afford it himslef. If I was in the same situation I wouldnt come begging on a forum.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:37 PM GMT
himself*
Report Fashion Fever November 8, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
if you cant afford the vet bills if your dog gets injured then you shouldnt be allowed to have them !!
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
This might sound a bit harsh but if the dog is already in the vets and you cant afford to have the operation then ask the vet to have it put down
Report DaveEdwards November 8, 2009 10:39 PM GMT
Just looked at their website, presumably a going concern like that would have a deal with a vet for the amount of business that they would be buying?

If not couldn't the costs be absorbed as part of the running costs of the business?
Report DaveEdwards November 8, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
Bit steep Cheap!

I think he should have the dog patched up and keep it as a pet.
Report sportsjudge November 8, 2009 10:42 PM GMT
Dave

Put me down for a donation, will text you for details for payment.

cheers

sj
Report maddogmandan November 8, 2009 10:46 PM GMT
thats bad cheapring
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
Just dug out an old Irish greyhound stud book
"it will be in the best interest of the community and in the long run for the greyhound concerned if it is put painlessly to sleep, rather than given away to some person who will not care for it"
To be honest the dog will have to be put out for the operation and it really wont make any difference to the dog if it doesnt wake up again. No im not very PC
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
agree cheapring. but I think this is begging. I would rather contribute to the charity than help this man out. After all the flak his given me in the past.
Report rearer November 8, 2009 10:48 PM GMT
R/Manager

If shes not been syndicated YET then obviously theres no members as such, The Syndicate has myself down as Head of Syndicate, if/when the syndicate gets going and you join I will happily put you down as head of Syndicate.

Hope this answers your question.

BTW...Do not understand the " Nameless Forumites" Tag.

MDM.. only 100!

At the end of the day I dont expect everyone to contribute and thats fine, the ** will be looked after no matter what and thats what counts.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:48 PM GMT
ffs dont agree cheapring
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
Poor dog :-( hope all goes well but begging here.
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 10:52 PM GMT
Ok Ditto
But sometimes we do things for our own conscience rather than the actual good of the greyhound
Report [x] These checkboxes suck November 8, 2009 10:53 PM GMT

rearer 08 Nov 23:48
If shes not been syndicated YET then obviously theres no members as such, The Syndicate has myself down as Head of Syndicate


So you're responsible
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 10:53 PM GMT
Latest spread 165 - 175 threads
Report maddogmandan November 8, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
cheapring put a score in and i will not call you a bas.tard for saying put the dog down
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 10:57 PM GMT
Its certaintly got people staying up has This thread. the greyhound forum usually dies down overnight.
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 10:58 PM GMT
Maddman youve called my bluff
But where do i send the money?
Report maddogmandan November 8, 2009 11:00 PM GMT
f..k if i know i will look for his advert in the post and see if theres a adress if we all put a tenner in
Report cheap ring November 8, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
A TENNER
You wanted a score off me!
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
I would rather look at this. http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Home.aspx?gclid=COra563O_J0CFcts4wodAgWWqw
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:02 PM GMT
Contribute there then help this clown!
Report DaveEdwards November 8, 2009 11:02 PM GMT
Cheap, you'd be paying his too!
Report DaveEdwards November 8, 2009 11:04 PM GMT
Seriously now, hasn't this guy got a deal with the vets or can't it be absorbed as a business cost?

Also why the delay in sorting out the syndicate, did he think it was going to be a useful dog? If it turned out to be a useful open race dog would he have continued with the syndicate idea or just kept the dog for himself? Once retired he's have bred from the dog and made on the deal I'm sure.
Report [x] These checkboxes suck November 8, 2009 11:05 PM GMT
cheap ring 08 Nov 23:47
To be honest the dog will have to be put out for the operation and it really wont make any difference to the dog if it doesnt wake up again. No im not very PC


idiot
Report rearer November 8, 2009 11:06 PM GMT
Now Weres That Switch
Thanks.

Duncan
Cheers m8.

Dave Edwards
Easy saying pay it out the business but already done that for a full year as well as a £250 vet bill already, I will also have a kennel bill whilst she recuperates( 3-6 months).

It is okay people saying she is my responsibility and I suppose she has to be someones, but it doesnt make it fair that someone should be left with huge bills for something they dont own or didnt ask to have, the only other solution would have been to have her PTS at 4 months old which would NEVER happen with me, I will pay this vets bill no matter what, and Daisy will be looked after, but I do NOT feel guilty in asking for help with this **.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:09 PM GMT
I gave a ** to my mom and dad to look after called Jilliky. Sadly she died of cancer. They did everything they could for her. Paid out 1100 in the end. Still paying it back. they lent the money off a member of the family.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:11 PM GMT
I wouldnt come on here begging for the money. responsibilty rests with rearer whether he likes it or not. Hope all goes well for the dog tbh.
Report the.mad.dog.man November 8, 2009 11:11 PM GMT
your mum and dad done the right thing whats a tenner you will sleep well
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:12 PM GMT
Well he has give me some flak and I dont bare grudges and am tempted to contribute to be fair. I will contribute the tenner to the macmillian cancer fund.
Report the.mad.dog.man November 8, 2009 11:16 PM GMT
sleep on it and send a tenner all the best
Report The Racing Manager November 8, 2009 11:17 PM GMT
Ok, lets not beat about the boat. The chances of the dog racing after a wrist pin is slim to none. you want the dog treated so you can breed from her later which is fine but to expect "Nameless Forumites" to pay is ludicrous.

As someone else has said, pay for it through your business and offset it against tax
Report now wheres that switch!!! November 8, 2009 11:19 PM GMT
shows just how small most the punters on here are!!! ffs we are talking about maybe a nifty each!!! if you cant stump up that, you shouldnt be anywhere near a gambling site!!
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:20 PM GMT
ATB rearer but u certaintly wont get me helping u out. I would rather contribute to the cancer fund than help you. No hard feelings!
Report rearer November 8, 2009 11:21 PM GMT
Check

Surely would have been simpler to have left her in breeders name until schooled and then put into my own name if she was a flying machine, if you theory is correct!

Would not have made an ounce of difference if she was unnamed etc.

You are correct that she is MY responsibility but only because she has been left with me.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:22 PM GMT
Oh hard luck story. My mom and dad had Jilliky left with them I had a ** on cov. left with me. Just pay it yourself instead of pleading poverty on here.
Report DoubleDitto November 8, 2009 11:24 PM GMT
Ok rearer if you are to breed off her I think u should then continue to put dogs out of her litters into the charity name. And gain more prize money for such a worthy cause.
Report merde November 8, 2009 11:29 PM GMT
Is she for sale?
Report casemoney November 8, 2009 11:30 PM GMT
Was this the dog auctioned at wimbledon dave ?
Report rearer November 8, 2009 11:33 PM GMT
The Racing Manager 09 Nov 00:17


Ok, lets not beat about the boat. The chances of the dog racing after a wrist pin is slim to none. you want the dog treated so you can breed from her later which is fine but to expect "Nameless Forumites" to pay is ludicrous.

As someone else has said, pay for it through your business and offset it against tax

---------------------------------------------------------------

First off who are the " Nameless Forumites" you keep alluding too!

It is below the wrist but thats immaterial and I dont hold out hope for her racing either although the vet does, however her welfare and comfort is whats important not breeding or racing from her.
Report The Racing Manager November 8, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
It is ref to Jacks 11.19 post
Report DoubleDitto November 9, 2009 6:05 AM GMT
:-( hard luck. Sad story. I hope all goes well.
Report rearer November 9, 2009 10:29 AM GMT
Thanks for the replys it has made me see things in a different light, whilst I would NEVER have asked for help for my own dogs, in hindsight It is obvious I should not have asked for help with a dog left with me, as such I will very kindly decline any offer of help( Thanks guys, you know who you are) and I will personally take on all of Daisys kennel and vet bills.

Whatever happens Daisy will be well looked after and will certainly NOT be PTS as was suggested earlier.

Today is my mums birthday and is a day I would rather remember my mum than getting embroiled in debates over a few pounds.

PS: I will not be responding to anymore posts.
Report ososhot November 9, 2009 11:31 AM GMT
This really was a case where if you wanted to help out that was fine and, if you didn't, a forum assasintaion wasn't really helpful. We all know that the express intention of this pup was to raise money for macmillan and the person who bid for the dog reneged on it. Why are some of you on here so spiteful - honestly some of you make me sick with your pathetic jibes and point scoring - clearly some of you hold agendas of your own. I'm so pleased that you have won your little arguement - its just a shame that you can't see the bigger picture - life in blinkers must be very fulfilling for you.
Report im your man November 9, 2009 12:21 PM GMT
did your parents lend the £1100 off of you D/D , your dog they gave it a home,you left the bill for them to pay.your words not mine.
Report casemoney November 9, 2009 12:24 PM GMT
Dave are u going to breed with the **? perhaps a few of us could get together and buy a share in her,and a mating could be lined up with savannah highlands for the future, obviously with pups to be reared there would need to be a few of us to cover the cost ,just
and idea mate ,could be an interesting venture for some ...

Im oooooooop north next week dave if i get a chance i will pop up an see u.

hope daisy comes through the op ok.
Report worcester sauce November 9, 2009 12:36 PM GMT
would be interested in some sort of breeding syndicate same as casemoney rest of you should hang your heads in shame .dan very disapointed in you
Report RREX November 9, 2009 6:51 PM GMT
Dont worry dave mate, im sick to death of the voice of CHECKBOXES THE SUCKER and DOUBLE DIL*O plus others i dont know why they have spoke they could not aford a vet bill on an ant ,dont know about a dog KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS TO YOUR SELFS YOU PAIR OF STREET RATS!!!!!!!!!good luck mate hope all goes well ,i know it will!!!!!P.S Had a phone call from CAKED CAKED CAKED CAKED CAKED CAKED CAKED CAKED CAKED today he said how is hes 12 pups coming along that he has brought his self????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????...
Report DoubleDitto November 9, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
Excuse I own a dog and apy regular kennel bills. If it needed the vet I wouldnt plead poverty. I hope your boyfriend CAKED decides not to come back tbh. Talk about a obsession.
Report DoubleDitto November 9, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
Excuse me I own a dog and pay regular kennel bills. If it needed the vet I wouldnt plead poverty. I hope your boyfriend CAKED decides not to come back tbh. Talk about a obsession. repost because of the spelling mistakes. I was seething was the reason.
Report DoubleDitto November 9, 2009 7:19 PM GMT
I see here rearer has now changed his view so this thread has become totally pointless.
Report DoubleDitto November 9, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
worcester sauce Well Im entitled to my opinion. I got some flak here. I hope Daisy gets through well.
Report RREX November 9, 2009 8:14 PM GMT
Your nothing but a CHICKEN DOUBLE DIL*O ,your now trying to lick daves AR*E like u do checkboxes and P.S DONT BE TO LIPPY ABOUT THE YOUNGMASTER CAKED HE WILL BE BACK VERY SOON YOU BIG PAIR OF STIFF*ES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU HAVE ALOT OF NORTH AND SOUTH 4 A LITTLE PIP ,LEAVE MY PAL OUT MR.WOOD TODAY.OTHERWISE THE MERRYMEN MIGHT BE LOOMING END OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report VALUEMAN November 9, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
I hope the dog does not suffer or get PTS because nobody will take responsibility for her.....whilst I am slightly sympathetic to your situation Rearer, the buck stops with you....
Report casemoney November 9, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
do people actually read the threads they post on ?
Report yorky November 9, 2009 11:18 PM GMT
I bought a 5 year old dog once who no one wanted , paid for his keep for 5 more years,only got 6 months racing out of him cost me 25 quid to buy and thousands to keep, but I blummin loved him
Report DoubleDitto November 10, 2009 2:40 PM GMT
:-) yorky how nice of u. I wish their was more people in the sport like you. :-)
Report RREX November 15, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
DOUBLE DI*LDO I HEARD U SENT UP 5 POUND TO MR WOOD ,WHY WOULD YOU SEND A WEEKS WAGES AWAY??????
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