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The Ladbrokes Irish Derby will commence on August 4th at Shelbourne Park while the final will be the highlight of the greyhound year when it is staged on Saturday, September 11th.
Mite as wel get it started :D
Any chance of that AP market i requested betfair on de Greyhound Forum, i gave u de list of dogs and de whole lot :|
Mite as wel get it started :D
Any chance of that AP market i requested betfair on de Greyhound Forum, i gave u de list of dogs and de whole lot :|
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INJURED BLACKSTONE FOR STUD
Monday, July 19th
Having sustained a smashed hock in the final of the ECC Timber Open 525 at Shelbourne on Saturday week, it has been confirmed that Bar Blackstone will never race again and will be retired to stud.
A brilliant racer and winner of the St Leger at Limerick last year, the son of Head Bound and Blackstone Sky won sixteen of his 33 races and would have been one of the major fancies for the forthcoming Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby.
Owner Sean Dunphy confirmed the news this morning when saying: “He had a niggly hip muscle problem and that probably didn’t help him to go into the bend but, anyway, he smashed the hock and he won’t be running again. The leg is now in plaster and it will be probably be up to two months before he is able to commence stud duties”.
Dunphy confirmed that the dog will stand at stud with him and will serve bitches naturally. Bar Blackstone will be an interesting addition to the stud ranks, being a son of Head Bound and closely related to irish Derby winner Like A Shot.
Monday, July 19th
Having sustained a smashed hock in the final of the ECC Timber Open 525 at Shelbourne on Saturday week, it has been confirmed that Bar Blackstone will never race again and will be retired to stud.
A brilliant racer and winner of the St Leger at Limerick last year, the son of Head Bound and Blackstone Sky won sixteen of his 33 races and would have been one of the major fancies for the forthcoming Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby.
Owner Sean Dunphy confirmed the news this morning when saying: “He had a niggly hip muscle problem and that probably didn’t help him to go into the bend but, anyway, he smashed the hock and he won’t be running again. The leg is now in plaster and it will be probably be up to two months before he is able to commence stud duties”.
Dunphy confirmed that the dog will stand at stud with him and will serve bitches naturally. Bar Blackstone will be an interesting addition to the stud ranks, being a son of Head Bound and closely related to irish Derby winner Like A Shot.
SHAWS DILEMMA, who delighted connections with a fast 28.77sec trial over Wimbledon’s 480m course on Friday, is being prepared for a crack at the Ladbrokes Irish Derby.
Rab McNair, husband of trainer Liz, said of the reigning Oaks queen: “We were absolutely delighted with the trial. She’d buzzed round Hove in a sprint the week before, and looks to be in great shape considering she’s only about 14 weeks out of season.”
Having missed the English Derby after the season broke, McNair confirmed that Shelbourne was next on the agenda for the strong-running bitch owned by Brendan Keogh and Simon Senyk.
Rab McNair, husband of trainer Liz, said of the reigning Oaks queen: “We were absolutely delighted with the trial. She’d buzzed round Hove in a sprint the week before, and looks to be in great shape considering she’s only about 14 weeks out of season.”
Having missed the English Derby after the season broke, McNair confirmed that Shelbourne was next on the agenda for the strong-running bitch owned by Brendan Keogh and Simon Senyk.
PJ Fahy's dogs
Tyrur Lohan is something the forgotten dog as far as the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby is concerned but owner P.J. Fahy is getting increasingly hopeful that the long absent star tracker will make it into the first round which starts on Thursday, August 5th.
A son of Hades Rocket and Tyrur Nuala, Tyrur Lohan produced a qualifying trial run of 28.44 and won his first race in 28.26 at Shelbourne. He followed up by winning the final of that Open Unraced Stake by six lengths in 28.44. He finished second in his first two ventures into open company and then won the first round of the Comerford Cakes by a length from Priceless Chef in 28.72. He was withdrawn from the second round and hasn’t been seen since.
Fahy sent him over to Charlie Lister to be prepared for the English Derby but he returned without a race in England and with an injury. Says Fahy: “It has taken quite a while for that cut on the foot to heal up but he has satisfied us in the last couple of weeks and will hopefully have a trial next week. He is in seriously good form but would have to go into the Derby without a race if the foot holds up”.
Fahy plans on having a team of up to twelve dogs in the Derby, headed by Tyrur Big Mike, Tyrur Enda, Tyrur Bucko, Tyrur Brennan and Tyrur Dylan. He says, “They have all had little niggles but they should all be okay for the start of the Derby”.
Unfortunately, the brilliant Tyrur Quinn will not be among them. He has a serious injury and is unlikely to race again.
Tyrur Lohan is something the forgotten dog as far as the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby is concerned but owner P.J. Fahy is getting increasingly hopeful that the long absent star tracker will make it into the first round which starts on Thursday, August 5th.
A son of Hades Rocket and Tyrur Nuala, Tyrur Lohan produced a qualifying trial run of 28.44 and won his first race in 28.26 at Shelbourne. He followed up by winning the final of that Open Unraced Stake by six lengths in 28.44. He finished second in his first two ventures into open company and then won the first round of the Comerford Cakes by a length from Priceless Chef in 28.72. He was withdrawn from the second round and hasn’t been seen since.
Fahy sent him over to Charlie Lister to be prepared for the English Derby but he returned without a race in England and with an injury. Says Fahy: “It has taken quite a while for that cut on the foot to heal up but he has satisfied us in the last couple of weeks and will hopefully have a trial next week. He is in seriously good form but would have to go into the Derby without a race if the foot holds up”.
Fahy plans on having a team of up to twelve dogs in the Derby, headed by Tyrur Big Mike, Tyrur Enda, Tyrur Bucko, Tyrur Brennan and Tyrur Dylan. He says, “They have all had little niggles but they should all be okay for the start of the Derby”.
Unfortunately, the brilliant Tyrur Quinn will not be among them. He has a serious injury and is unlikely to race again.
JUST 2 WEEKS TO THE DERBY
Wednesday, July 21st
We’re almost there folks! The 2010 Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby will close to entries on Friday week and the first round will commence on Thursday, August 5th.
Entries for the classic have started to roll in and owners and trainers are requested to enter their greyhounds as early as possible. The entry fee will be €300 and the winner’s prize will be €120,000.
The first round will be run over three nights, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, with the second round to be run on Thursday 12th and Saturday 14th. The Derby will then be run on each Saturday night up to the spectacular final night on September 11th.
The draw for the first round will be made at 10 am on Tuesday, August 3rd.
Wednesday, July 21st
We’re almost there folks! The 2010 Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby will close to entries on Friday week and the first round will commence on Thursday, August 5th.
Entries for the classic have started to roll in and owners and trainers are requested to enter their greyhounds as early as possible. The entry fee will be €300 and the winner’s prize will be €120,000.
The first round will be run over three nights, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, with the second round to be run on Thursday 12th and Saturday 14th. The Derby will then be run on each Saturday night up to the spectacular final night on September 11th.
The draw for the first round will be made at 10 am on Tuesday, August 3rd.
Tyrur Big Mike @ 50/1 + 38 + 33/1
Tyrur Enda @ 100
Makeshift @ 37.9 + 25/1
Barefoot Bullet @ 40/1 + 33/1
Kiowa Myth @ 66/1
Thurlesbeg Joker @ 40/1 + 20/1
Shaneboy Lee @ 50/1
De Ex Factor @ 66/1
Westmead Bolt @ 50/1
Whatsupjack @ 66/1
Farley Blitz @ 41.19
Local Flawless @ 66/1
thats my lot
Tyrur Enda @ 100
Makeshift @ 37.9 + 25/1
Barefoot Bullet @ 40/1 + 33/1
Kiowa Myth @ 66/1
Thurlesbeg Joker @ 40/1 + 20/1
Shaneboy Lee @ 50/1
De Ex Factor @ 66/1
Westmead Bolt @ 50/1
Whatsupjack @ 66/1
Farley Blitz @ 41.19
Local Flawless @ 66/1
thats my lot
So Far....
Tyrur Big Mike @ 33/1
Barefoot Bullet @ 40/1
De Ex Factor @ 70/1
Will step it up from next week on
Tyrur Big Mike @ 33/1
Barefoot Bullet @ 40/1
De Ex Factor @ 70/1
Will step it up from next week on
Fatboyz Tyson 33/1
Makeshift 25/1
Colourful Champ 25/1
Thurlesbeg Joker 20/1 + 33/1
Tyrur Quinn 33/1
Tyrur Big Mike 50/1 + 40/1
Barefoot Bullet 40/1
De Ex Factor / Movealong Tony / Belvedere Champ change on hear, waitin for more liquidity to top up
Makeshift 25/1
Colourful Champ 25/1
Thurlesbeg Joker 20/1 + 33/1
Tyrur Quinn 33/1
Tyrur Big Mike 50/1 + 40/1
Barefoot Bullet 40/1
De Ex Factor / Movealong Tony / Belvedere Champ change on hear, waitin for more liquidity to top up
premier fancy tips on the irish derby was allwas worth a euro or two is he still in the land of the living? im not a great greyhound man but i allways go to all the heats of the best greyhound racing derby on the planet, tx lads[:)]
This market will be suspended at midday on Monday 26th July when entries close. The market will then be reopened with unmatched bets cancelled once Betfair is aware of the finalised entries and administration has been completed.
1st Round- 5th 6th & 7th Aug
2nd Round- 12th & 14th Aug
3rd Round - 21st Aug
Quarter Final- 28th Aug
Semi Final - 4th Sept
Final- 11th Sept
1st Round- 5th 6th & 7th Aug
2nd Round- 12th & 14th Aug
3rd Round - 21st Aug
Quarter Final- 28th Aug
Semi Final - 4th Sept
Final- 11th Sept
NO RETURN FOR CAUSEWAY
Tuesday, July 27th
Reigning Irish Derby champion College Causeway will not be defending his title at Shelbourne Park next week. Owner Mike McKenna this morning confirmed that the fantastic tracker has run his last race and will be continuing his stud career at the Droopys Kennels in Portlaw.
McKenna had hoped to get the brilliant son of Go Wild Teddy back on the track to contest the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby but time has run out and the dog will not be seen racing on a track again.
Said Mike this morning: “There were all sorts of rumours doing the rounds. He was supposed to be galloping and even in England but all the stories were off the mark. I would have loved to see him running again but it’s just not possible. He is doing extremely well at stud and will remain there”.
Michael Dunphy is naturally delighted that the Causeway will be remaining in the stud paddocks and said: “He has done very well so far. He has served about 120 bitches and straws have been sent to Australia and America. I am getting emails every day from Australia from breeders interested in his straws”.
Ladbrokes had offered an €80,000 bonus in the event of College Causeway repeating his Derby success but that money is now safe!
A FLYING OPINION
Tuesday, July 27th
Recent **** International winner Definate Opinion stated his case for the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby with a fabulous trial run at Shelbourne Park on Saturday night.
Pat Guilfoyle’s charge covered the 525 yards in a flying 28.29
and is now a co-third favourite with the sponsors for the classic which commences on Thursday week.
This was easily the fastest time of the session but there were some other notable runs.
525: Skywalker Queen 28.60; Colorful Champ 28.62, Tyrur Noone 28.87, Yeah Man bt Mustang Johnny 2L 28.81; Skywalker Bolt 29.28, Brave Blake bt Hi Power Turbo 2L 28.82; Clontarf Hero by Legal Rebel 3L 28.87;
350: Minnies Mile bt Baltovin Boston 2L 18.85; Ballymac Under 1L bt Big Ego 18.86; Awesome Prince bt Corporate Attack 2.5L 19.29.
Tuesday, July 27th
Reigning Irish Derby champion College Causeway will not be defending his title at Shelbourne Park next week. Owner Mike McKenna this morning confirmed that the fantastic tracker has run his last race and will be continuing his stud career at the Droopys Kennels in Portlaw.
McKenna had hoped to get the brilliant son of Go Wild Teddy back on the track to contest the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby but time has run out and the dog will not be seen racing on a track again.
Said Mike this morning: “There were all sorts of rumours doing the rounds. He was supposed to be galloping and even in England but all the stories were off the mark. I would have loved to see him running again but it’s just not possible. He is doing extremely well at stud and will remain there”.
Michael Dunphy is naturally delighted that the Causeway will be remaining in the stud paddocks and said: “He has done very well so far. He has served about 120 bitches and straws have been sent to Australia and America. I am getting emails every day from Australia from breeders interested in his straws”.
Ladbrokes had offered an €80,000 bonus in the event of College Causeway repeating his Derby success but that money is now safe!
A FLYING OPINION
Tuesday, July 27th
Recent **** International winner Definate Opinion stated his case for the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby with a fabulous trial run at Shelbourne Park on Saturday night.
Pat Guilfoyle’s charge covered the 525 yards in a flying 28.29
and is now a co-third favourite with the sponsors for the classic which commences on Thursday week.This was easily the fastest time of the session but there were some other notable runs.
525: Skywalker Queen 28.60; Colorful Champ 28.62, Tyrur Noone 28.87, Yeah Man bt Mustang Johnny 2L 28.81; Skywalker Bolt 29.28, Brave Blake bt Hi Power Turbo 2L 28.82; Clontarf Hero by Legal Rebel 3L 28.87;
350: Minnies Mile bt Baltovin Boston 2L 18.85; Ballymac Under 1L bt Big Ego 18.86; Awesome Prince bt Corporate Attack 2.5L 19.29.
Mike McKenna
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03 Jun 2010 23:25
Paul Jennings wrote:
Is there any news on if College Causeway will come back to defend his derby crown?
PAUL,
Putting him up the gallop at the moment and going well. A couple of weeks will tell a lot
Said Mike this morning: “There were all sorts of rumours doing the rounds. He was supposed to be galloping and even in England but all the stories were off the mark. I would have loved to see him running again but it’s just not possible. He is doing extremely well at stud and will remain there”.
hmmm
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03 Jun 2010 23:25
Paul Jennings wrote:
Is there any news on if College Causeway will come back to defend his derby crown?
PAUL,
Putting him up the gallop at the moment and going well. A couple of weeks will tell a lot
Said Mike this morning: “There were all sorts of rumours doing the rounds. He was supposed to be galloping and even in England but all the stories were off the mark. I would have loved to see him running again but it’s just not possible. He is doing extremely well at stud and will remain there”.
hmmm
anyway the made the same decision i would have, hope he has a great career at stud
READY GOES FOR DERBY DOUBLE
Wednesday, July 28th
Last year’s English Derby winner Kinda Ready will bid to become only the second greyhound ever to do the double when he contests the 2010 Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby at Shelbourne Park next week.
Now with Ian Seymour and struggling to recapture the form that saw him overtake Fear Zafonic in that dramatic Wimbledon final, Kinda Ready has had a couple of races at Shelbourne.
As of 11 a.m. this morning there are 39 names in the book but with all the top kennels still to confirm their entries. For instance, P.J. Fahy has intimated that he will have 12 or 13 entries while Pat Buckley has intimated that he will be entering five.
The entries close on Friday morning and the draw will be made at 10 am on Tuesday with the first round heats then kicking off on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights of next week.
DERBY ENTRIES
Corporate Attack, Fleetwood Nick, Clonkeen Stan, Cookies Fantasy, Shaws Dilemma, Boherash Torres, Ballyvadd Hawk, Ballyfidora One, Big Shuffle, Baytown Boss, Lough View Gem, Mileheight Crash, Kinda Ready, Wise Signal, Ashley Agger, January Breeze, Millie Marina, Headleys Jake, Brave Blake, Hold On Buddy.
TRIAL STAKE WINNERS: Welesbourne Dan, Hipower Turbo, Mesedo Blue, Johnny Whitesox, Monks Patriot, Greenwell Viper, Lassa Extreme, Blazers Black, Monleek Bay, Skywalker Kim, Dartrey Spring, Crash Bandit, Ballymac Tipp, Huckabees Kid, Foyle Storm, Yeah Me, Frisky Fantasy, Guitar Moment, Romeo Impact.
Wednesday, July 28th
Last year’s English Derby winner Kinda Ready will bid to become only the second greyhound ever to do the double when he contests the 2010 Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby at Shelbourne Park next week.
Now with Ian Seymour and struggling to recapture the form that saw him overtake Fear Zafonic in that dramatic Wimbledon final, Kinda Ready has had a couple of races at Shelbourne.
As of 11 a.m. this morning there are 39 names in the book but with all the top kennels still to confirm their entries. For instance, P.J. Fahy has intimated that he will have 12 or 13 entries while Pat Buckley has intimated that he will be entering five.
The entries close on Friday morning and the draw will be made at 10 am on Tuesday with the first round heats then kicking off on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights of next week.
DERBY ENTRIES
Corporate Attack, Fleetwood Nick, Clonkeen Stan, Cookies Fantasy, Shaws Dilemma, Boherash Torres, Ballyvadd Hawk, Ballyfidora One, Big Shuffle, Baytown Boss, Lough View Gem, Mileheight Crash, Kinda Ready, Wise Signal, Ashley Agger, January Breeze, Millie Marina, Headleys Jake, Brave Blake, Hold On Buddy.
TRIAL STAKE WINNERS: Welesbourne Dan, Hipower Turbo, Mesedo Blue, Johnny Whitesox, Monks Patriot, Greenwell Viper, Lassa Extreme, Blazers Black, Monleek Bay, Skywalker Kim, Dartrey Spring, Crash Bandit, Ballymac Tipp, Huckabees Kid, Foyle Storm, Yeah Me, Frisky Fantasy, Guitar Moment, Romeo Impact.
FAHY ENTERS 19 IN LADBROKES IRISH DERBY
Thursday, July 29th
Ireland’s leading owner P.J. Fahy set what is surely a world record when he entered no fewer than nineteen dogs bearing the famed Tyrur prefix for the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby which starts at Shelbourne next Thursday.
His huge injection saw the number of entries hit the 120 mark by lunchtime today and it now looks that the required 144 entry mark will be topped before entries close tomorrow night.
Fahy had stated a week ago that he hoped to have at least twelve Derby runners but a total of nineteen is quite staggering. What’s more, there is massive quality in there with the likes of Big Mike, Enda, Lohan, Brennan, Bucko, McGuigan and Dylan his main hopes.
DERBY ENTRIES
[Received up to lunchtime Thursday]
Corporate Attack, Fleetwood Nick, Clonkeen Stan, Cookies Fantasy, Shaws Dilemma, Boherash Torres, Ballyvadd Hawk, Ballyfidora One, Big Shuffle, Baytown Boss, Lough View Gem, Mileheight Crash, Kinda Ready, Wise Signal, Ashley Agger, January Breeze, Millie Marina, Headleys Jake, Brave Blake, Hold On Buddy, Monlesa Alsation, Movealong Tony, Jim Said So, Definate Opinion, Joey Jojo Junior, Royal Tornado, Thorn Brae Brett, Broadstrand Lad, Kiowa Myth, Skywalker Queen, Skywalker Cindy, Nighthawk Boy, Forest Squire, Local Dee Jay (ex Local Flawless), Makeshift, Razldazl Lord, Cartiers Dazzle, Black Paws Down, Kingo, Colorful Champ, Barefoot Bullet, Barefoot Admiral, De Ex Factor, Tranquil Time, Hurry On Black, St Louis Spirit, Dromore Hero, Jacks Dynamite, Whatsupjack, Must Be Chaos, Cabra Legend, Carib King, Frisky Fantasy, Oran Legend, Belvedere Champ, Judicial Academy, Local Gaffer, Marked Urgent, Olivers Twist, Oran Jaguar, Clontarf Hero, Dalcash Cardoza, Fatboyz Tyson, Fatboyz Nodrog, Westmead Bolt, Westmead Grant, Must Be Keano, Krug Ninety Five, Thurlesbeg Joker, Farloe Blitz, Farloe Turbo, Oceans Crash, Burn Em Up, Pablo Supreme, Ardera Monarch, Westmead Logan, Tyrur Lohan, Tyrur Big Mike, Tyrur Enda, Tyrur Brennan, Tyrur Dylan, Tyrur Noone, Tyrur Biggs, Tyrur Bucko, Tyrur Richie, Tyrur Gerado, Tyrur McGuigan, Tyrur Valdez, Tyrur Dougie, Tyrur Tadgh, Tyrur Thursday, Tyrur Lucky, Tyrur Leo, Tyrur Heavey, Tyrur Clint, Forest Rover, Big Ego, Highview Shadow, Slippery Dave, Hee Haws Arazi.
TRIAL STAKE WINNERS: Welesbourne Dan, Hipower Turbo, Mesedo Blue, Johnny Whitesox, Monks Patriot, Greenwell Viper, Lassa Extreme, Blazers Black, Monleek Bay, Skywalker Kim, Dartrey Spring, Crash Bandit, Ballymac Tipp, Huckabees Kid, Foyle Storm, Yeah Me, Frisky Fantasy, Guitar Moment, Romeo Impact.
Thursday, July 29th
Ireland’s leading owner P.J. Fahy set what is surely a world record when he entered no fewer than nineteen dogs bearing the famed Tyrur prefix for the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby which starts at Shelbourne next Thursday.
His huge injection saw the number of entries hit the 120 mark by lunchtime today and it now looks that the required 144 entry mark will be topped before entries close tomorrow night.
Fahy had stated a week ago that he hoped to have at least twelve Derby runners but a total of nineteen is quite staggering. What’s more, there is massive quality in there with the likes of Big Mike, Enda, Lohan, Brennan, Bucko, McGuigan and Dylan his main hopes.
DERBY ENTRIES
[Received up to lunchtime Thursday]
Corporate Attack, Fleetwood Nick, Clonkeen Stan, Cookies Fantasy, Shaws Dilemma, Boherash Torres, Ballyvadd Hawk, Ballyfidora One, Big Shuffle, Baytown Boss, Lough View Gem, Mileheight Crash, Kinda Ready, Wise Signal, Ashley Agger, January Breeze, Millie Marina, Headleys Jake, Brave Blake, Hold On Buddy, Monlesa Alsation, Movealong Tony, Jim Said So, Definate Opinion, Joey Jojo Junior, Royal Tornado, Thorn Brae Brett, Broadstrand Lad, Kiowa Myth, Skywalker Queen, Skywalker Cindy, Nighthawk Boy, Forest Squire, Local Dee Jay (ex Local Flawless), Makeshift, Razldazl Lord, Cartiers Dazzle, Black Paws Down, Kingo, Colorful Champ, Barefoot Bullet, Barefoot Admiral, De Ex Factor, Tranquil Time, Hurry On Black, St Louis Spirit, Dromore Hero, Jacks Dynamite, Whatsupjack, Must Be Chaos, Cabra Legend, Carib King, Frisky Fantasy, Oran Legend, Belvedere Champ, Judicial Academy, Local Gaffer, Marked Urgent, Olivers Twist, Oran Jaguar, Clontarf Hero, Dalcash Cardoza, Fatboyz Tyson, Fatboyz Nodrog, Westmead Bolt, Westmead Grant, Must Be Keano, Krug Ninety Five, Thurlesbeg Joker, Farloe Blitz, Farloe Turbo, Oceans Crash, Burn Em Up, Pablo Supreme, Ardera Monarch, Westmead Logan, Tyrur Lohan, Tyrur Big Mike, Tyrur Enda, Tyrur Brennan, Tyrur Dylan, Tyrur Noone, Tyrur Biggs, Tyrur Bucko, Tyrur Richie, Tyrur Gerado, Tyrur McGuigan, Tyrur Valdez, Tyrur Dougie, Tyrur Tadgh, Tyrur Thursday, Tyrur Lucky, Tyrur Leo, Tyrur Heavey, Tyrur Clint, Forest Rover, Big Ego, Highview Shadow, Slippery Dave, Hee Haws Arazi.
TRIAL STAKE WINNERS: Welesbourne Dan, Hipower Turbo, Mesedo Blue, Johnny Whitesox, Monks Patriot, Greenwell Viper, Lassa Extreme, Blazers Black, Monleek Bay, Skywalker Kim, Dartrey Spring, Crash Bandit, Ballymac Tipp, Huckabees Kid, Foyle Storm, Yeah Me, Frisky Fantasy, Guitar Moment, Romeo Impact.
Struggling to get the amount if entries they want. How are you frank. 
PF here. 
PF here.
OCEANS CRASH @ "Even money" with 365, so they know something?
fair price in my opinion has the early of Premier Fantasy, the middle pace of Borna Pilot and finishes faster than College Causeway
actually make him more of a 4/6 shot myself
Local Dee Jay aka Local Flawless 200/1 WTF
i know he was very sore after last weeks run but if he gets to the derby that is an absolutely ridicolous quote
WTFi know he was very sore after last weeks run but if he gets to the derby that is an absolutely ridicolous quote
Where can I get the actual entries for the race? Different firms have all sorts of dogs quoted in the betting on Oddschecker.
DERBY ENTRIES
Corporate Attack, Fleetwood Nick, Clonkeen Stan, Cookies Fantasy, Shaws Dilemma, Boherash Torres, Ballyvadd Hawk, Ballyfidora One, Big Shuffle, Baytown Boss, Lough View Gem, Mileheight Crash, Kinda Ready, Wise Signal, Ashley Agger, January Breeze, Millie Marina, Headleys Jake, Brave Blake, Hold On Buddy, Monlesa Alsation, Movealong Tony, Jim Said So, Definate Opinion, Joey Jojo Junior, Royal Tornado, Thorn Brae Brett, Broadstrand Lad, Kiowa Myth, Skywalker Queen, Skywalker Cindy, Nighthawk Boy, Forest Squire, Local Dee Jay (ex Local Flawless), Makeshift, Razldazl Lord, Cartiers Dazzle, Black Paws Down, Kingo, Colorful Champ, Barefoot Bullet, Barefoot Admiral, De Ex Factor, Tranquil Time, Hurry On Black, St Louis Spirit, Dromore Hero, Jacks Dynamite, Whatsupjack, Must Be Chaos, Cabra Legend, Carib King, Frisky Fantasy, Oran Legend, Belvedere Champ, Judicial Academy, Local Gaffer, Marked Urgent, Olivers Twist, Oran Jaguar, Clontarf Hero, Dalcash Cardoza, Fatboyz Tyson, Fatboyz Nodrog, Westmead Bolt, Westmead Grant, Must Be Cantona, Krug Ninety Five, Thurlesbeg Joker, Farloe Blitz, Farloe Turbo, Oceans Crash, Burn Em Up, Ardera Monarch, Westmead Logan, Tyrur Lohan, Tyrur Big Mike, Tyrur Enda, Tyrur Brennan, Tyrur Dylan, Tyrur Noone, Tyrur Biggs, Tyrur Bucko, Tyrur Richie, Tyrur Gerado, Tyrur McGuigan, Tyrur Valdez, Tyrur Dougie, Tyrur Tadgh, Tyrur Thursday, Tyrur Lucky, Tyrur Leo, Tyrur Heavey, Tyrur Clint, Tyrur Brian, Forest Rover, Big Ego, Highview Shadow, Slippery Dave, Hee Haws Arazi, Hats My Boy, Tullymurry Act, Cowboy Mick, Troys Expert, Faypoint Man, Dandy Man, Coolbeggan Lass, Shaneboy Lee, Fenomen Coco, Castlelyons Ralf, Mustang Johnny, Coolcastle Jet, Ballymac Under, Ned From Donard, Kelmar Jo, Kerrydale Farloe, Glenalbyn, Hee Haws Montana, Schofield Sam, Croom Star, Clearview Kelly, Freedom Seacrest, Shaneboy Sport, Fridays Aries.
Corporate Attack, Fleetwood Nick, Clonkeen Stan, Cookies Fantasy, Shaws Dilemma, Boherash Torres, Ballyvadd Hawk, Ballyfidora One, Big Shuffle, Baytown Boss, Lough View Gem, Mileheight Crash, Kinda Ready, Wise Signal, Ashley Agger, January Breeze, Millie Marina, Headleys Jake, Brave Blake, Hold On Buddy, Monlesa Alsation, Movealong Tony, Jim Said So, Definate Opinion, Joey Jojo Junior, Royal Tornado, Thorn Brae Brett, Broadstrand Lad, Kiowa Myth, Skywalker Queen, Skywalker Cindy, Nighthawk Boy, Forest Squire, Local Dee Jay (ex Local Flawless), Makeshift, Razldazl Lord, Cartiers Dazzle, Black Paws Down, Kingo, Colorful Champ, Barefoot Bullet, Barefoot Admiral, De Ex Factor, Tranquil Time, Hurry On Black, St Louis Spirit, Dromore Hero, Jacks Dynamite, Whatsupjack, Must Be Chaos, Cabra Legend, Carib King, Frisky Fantasy, Oran Legend, Belvedere Champ, Judicial Academy, Local Gaffer, Marked Urgent, Olivers Twist, Oran Jaguar, Clontarf Hero, Dalcash Cardoza, Fatboyz Tyson, Fatboyz Nodrog, Westmead Bolt, Westmead Grant, Must Be Cantona, Krug Ninety Five, Thurlesbeg Joker, Farloe Blitz, Farloe Turbo, Oceans Crash, Burn Em Up, Ardera Monarch, Westmead Logan, Tyrur Lohan, Tyrur Big Mike, Tyrur Enda, Tyrur Brennan, Tyrur Dylan, Tyrur Noone, Tyrur Biggs, Tyrur Bucko, Tyrur Richie, Tyrur Gerado, Tyrur McGuigan, Tyrur Valdez, Tyrur Dougie, Tyrur Tadgh, Tyrur Thursday, Tyrur Lucky, Tyrur Leo, Tyrur Heavey, Tyrur Clint, Tyrur Brian, Forest Rover, Big Ego, Highview Shadow, Slippery Dave, Hee Haws Arazi, Hats My Boy, Tullymurry Act, Cowboy Mick, Troys Expert, Faypoint Man, Dandy Man, Coolbeggan Lass, Shaneboy Lee, Fenomen Coco, Castlelyons Ralf, Mustang Johnny, Coolcastle Jet, Ballymac Under, Ned From Donard, Kelmar Jo, Kerrydale Farloe, Glenalbyn, Hee Haws Montana, Schofield Sam, Croom Star, Clearview Kelly, Freedom Seacrest, Shaneboy Sport, Fridays Aries.
good few missing from that list, all trail stakes winners not included
Any news on Trials before racing at Shelbourne last night ?
From Greyhoundscene-
tyrur lohan 28.51
kingo 28.69
tyrur enda bt tyrur
brennan in 28.43
tyrur biggs 28.95
tyrur dylan 28.67
westmead logan 28.90
clonkeen stan 28.56
fatboyz nodrog 28.86
royal tornado 28.75
some czech dog i've never
heard off 29.03
romeo impact (i think not
sure) 28.90
hope they are all right
lads they where not
calling out the name of
the dogs trialling
tyrur lohan 28.51
kingo 28.69
tyrur enda bt tyrur
brennan in 28.43
tyrur biggs 28.95
tyrur dylan 28.67
westmead logan 28.90
clonkeen stan 28.56
fatboyz nodrog 28.86
royal tornado 28.75
some czech dog i've never
heard off 29.03
romeo impact (i think not
sure) 28.90
hope they are all right
lads they where not
calling out the name of
the dogs trialling
My bets
Thurlesbeg Joker 40/1 & 33/1 (2pts)
Tyrur Big Mike 50/1 (1pt)
Westmead Bolt 50/1 (1pt, on the advice of pf, I'll give him a fiver if it wins!!)
Barefoot Bullet 33/1 (1pt)
Makeshift 25/1 (1pt, waited a bit too long on this one!)
Krug Ninety Five 50/1 (1pt)
Not sure if I'll add to this yet, might wait for the draw
Thurlesbeg Joker 40/1 & 33/1 (2pts)
Tyrur Big Mike 50/1 (1pt)
Westmead Bolt 50/1 (1pt, on the advice of pf, I'll give him a fiver if it wins!!)
Barefoot Bullet 33/1 (1pt)
Makeshift 25/1 (1pt, waited a bit too long on this one!)
Krug Ninety Five 50/1 (1pt)
Not sure if I'll add to this yet, might wait for the draw
Perhaps I didnt wait too long as you can now get 33s Makeshift but not sure I wanna double up on the stake now!!
http://www.igb.ie/upload/TalkingDogs/Derby-first-round-draw%20x%202.jpg
Heat 1
1 Monks Patriot
2 Movealong Tony
3 Fleetwood Nick
4 Local Dee Jay
5 Fatboyz Tyson (M)
6 Judicial Academy (M)
Heat 2
1 Oran Jaguar
2 Highway Shadow
3 Makeshift
4 Bunlashy Brett
5 Dandy Dan (M)
6 Skywalker Queen (W)
Heat 3
1 Ballyfeard Brave
2 Hipower Turbo
3 Mileheight Crash
4 Foyle Storm
5 Tyrur Dougie (M)
6 Greenwell Viper (M)
Heat 4
1 Croom Star
2 Clontarf Hero
3 Tyrur Brian
4 Slippery Dave
5 Hats My Boy (M)
6 Burn Em Up (W)
Heat 5
1 Black Paws Down
2 Kinda Ready
3 Ballymac Mitsy
4 Shaneboy Sport
5 Ballyfidora One (M)
6 Tyrur Big Mike (M)
Heat 6
1 Baytown Boss
2 Hee Haws Arazi
3 Headleys Jake
4 Mesedo Blue (M)
5 Marked Urgent (M)
6 Tyrur Brennan (W)
Heat 7
1 Schofield Sam
2 Huckabees Kid
3 Dartrey Spring
4 Tyrur Gerado
5 Whatsupjack
6 Westmead Logan (M)
Heat 8
1 Colorful Champ
2 Yeah Me
3 Ballymac Tipp
4 Tyrur Tadgh (M)
5 Barefoot Bullet (W)
6 Ballymac Under (W)
Heat 9
1 Freedom Seacrest
2 Glenalbyn
3 Wise Signal
4 Tyrur Valdez (M)
5 Millie Marina(W)
6 Cookies Fantasy (W)
Heat 10
1 Thorn Brae Brett
2 Farley Blitz
3 Joey Jojo Junior
4 Shaws Dilemma
5 Hold On Buddy (M)
6 Killacolla Glory (M)
Heat 11
1 Clearview Kelly
2 Lassa Extreme
3 Cartiers Dazzle
4 Faypoint Man
5 Must Be Cantona
6 Tyrur Heavey (M)
Heat 12
1 Nighthawk Boy
2 Broadstrand Lad
3 Kiowa Myth
4 Kilmalady Torres
5 Tyrur McGuigan (M)
6 Troys Expert (M)
Heat 13
1 Castlelyons Ralf
2 Carib King
3 Definate Opinion
4 Tyrur Bucko
5 January Breeze
6 Ned From Donard (M)
Heat 14
1 Olivers Twist
2 Hee Haws Montana
3 Monlesa Alsation (M)
4 De Ex Factor (M)
5 Johnny Whitesox (W)
6 Tyrur Dylan (W)
Heat 15
1 Dalcash Cardosa
2 Dream Walker
3 Tullymurry Act
4 Clonkeen Stan (M)
5 Cowboy Mick (M)
6 Skywalker Kim (W)
Heat 16
1 Forest Rover
2 Belevdere Champ
3 Frisky Fantasy
4 Mustang Johnny (W)
5 Thurlesbeg Joker (W)
6 Tyrur Thursday (W)
Heat 17
1 Jim Said So
2 Tyrur Enda
3 Big Shuffle
4 Ashley Agger
5 Three One Three (M)
6 Shaneboy Flash (M)
Heat 18
1 Crash Bandit
2 Romeo Impact
3 Shaneboy Lee (M)
4 Corporate Attack (M)
5 Monleek Bay (W)
6 Tyrur Lucky (W)
Heat 19
1 Tranquil Time
2 Guitar Moment (M)
3 Marshalls Gold (M)
4 Tyrur Richie (M)
5 Fenomen Co Co (M)
6 Forest Squire (W)
Heat 20
1 Oneco View
2 Tyrur Lohan
3 Cabra Legend
4 Welesbourne Dan
5 Westmead Bolt
6 Dromore Hero (W)
Heat 21
1 Air Force Hawk
2 Razldazl Lord
3 Big Ego
4 Ardera Monarch
5 Tyrur Biggs (M)
6 Krug Ninety Five (M)
Heat 22
1 Pachacuti
2 Coolbeggan Lass
3 Tyrur Clint
4 Royal Tornado
5 Hello Ringo
6 Farley Turbo (M)
Heat 23
1 Tyrur Noone
2 Hare Mack
3 Boherash Torres
4 Blazers Black
5 Kerrydale Farloe (W)
6 St Louis Spirit (W)
Heat 24
1 Barefoot Admiral
2 Helmet Boy
3 Skywalker Cindy
4 Coolcastle Jet
5 Kingo (M)
6 Westmead Grant (W)
1 Monks Patriot
2 Movealong Tony
3 Fleetwood Nick
4 Local Dee Jay
5 Fatboyz Tyson (M)
6 Judicial Academy (M)
Heat 2
1 Oran Jaguar
2 Highway Shadow
3 Makeshift
4 Bunlashy Brett
5 Dandy Dan (M)
6 Skywalker Queen (W)
Heat 3
1 Ballyfeard Brave
2 Hipower Turbo
3 Mileheight Crash
4 Foyle Storm
5 Tyrur Dougie (M)
6 Greenwell Viper (M)
Heat 4
1 Croom Star
2 Clontarf Hero
3 Tyrur Brian
4 Slippery Dave
5 Hats My Boy (M)
6 Burn Em Up (W)
Heat 5
1 Black Paws Down
2 Kinda Ready
3 Ballymac Mitsy
4 Shaneboy Sport
5 Ballyfidora One (M)
6 Tyrur Big Mike (M)
Heat 6
1 Baytown Boss
2 Hee Haws Arazi
3 Headleys Jake
4 Mesedo Blue (M)
5 Marked Urgent (M)
6 Tyrur Brennan (W)
Heat 7
1 Schofield Sam
2 Huckabees Kid
3 Dartrey Spring
4 Tyrur Gerado
5 Whatsupjack
6 Westmead Logan (M)
Heat 8
1 Colorful Champ
2 Yeah Me
3 Ballymac Tipp
4 Tyrur Tadgh (M)
5 Barefoot Bullet (W)
6 Ballymac Under (W)
Heat 9
1 Freedom Seacrest
2 Glenalbyn
3 Wise Signal
4 Tyrur Valdez (M)
5 Millie Marina(W)
6 Cookies Fantasy (W)
Heat 10
1 Thorn Brae Brett
2 Farley Blitz
3 Joey Jojo Junior
4 Shaws Dilemma
5 Hold On Buddy (M)
6 Killacolla Glory (M)
Heat 11
1 Clearview Kelly
2 Lassa Extreme
3 Cartiers Dazzle
4 Faypoint Man
5 Must Be Cantona
6 Tyrur Heavey (M)
Heat 12
1 Nighthawk Boy
2 Broadstrand Lad
3 Kiowa Myth
4 Kilmalady Torres
5 Tyrur McGuigan (M)
6 Troys Expert (M)
Heat 13
1 Castlelyons Ralf
2 Carib King
3 Definate Opinion
4 Tyrur Bucko
5 January Breeze
6 Ned From Donard (M)
Heat 14
1 Olivers Twist
2 Hee Haws Montana
3 Monlesa Alsation (M)
4 De Ex Factor (M)
5 Johnny Whitesox (W)
6 Tyrur Dylan (W)
Heat 15
1 Dalcash Cardosa
2 Dream Walker
3 Tullymurry Act
4 Clonkeen Stan (M)
5 Cowboy Mick (M)
6 Skywalker Kim (W)
Heat 16
1 Forest Rover
2 Belevdere Champ
3 Frisky Fantasy
4 Mustang Johnny (W)
5 Thurlesbeg Joker (W)
6 Tyrur Thursday (W)
Heat 17
1 Jim Said So
2 Tyrur Enda
3 Big Shuffle
4 Ashley Agger
5 Three One Three (M)
6 Shaneboy Flash (M)
Heat 18
1 Crash Bandit
2 Romeo Impact
3 Shaneboy Lee (M)
4 Corporate Attack (M)
5 Monleek Bay (W)
6 Tyrur Lucky (W)
Heat 19
1 Tranquil Time
2 Guitar Moment (M)
3 Marshalls Gold (M)
4 Tyrur Richie (M)
5 Fenomen Co Co (M)
6 Forest Squire (W)
Heat 20
1 Oneco View
2 Tyrur Lohan
3 Cabra Legend
4 Welesbourne Dan
5 Westmead Bolt
6 Dromore Hero (W)
Heat 21
1 Air Force Hawk
2 Razldazl Lord
3 Big Ego
4 Ardera Monarch
5 Tyrur Biggs (M)
6 Krug Ninety Five (M)
Heat 22
1 Pachacuti
2 Coolbeggan Lass
3 Tyrur Clint
4 Royal Tornado
5 Hello Ringo
6 Farley Turbo (M)
Heat 23
1 Tyrur Noone
2 Hare Mack
3 Boherash Torres
4 Blazers Black
5 Kerrydale Farloe (W)
6 St Louis Spirit (W)
Heat 24
1 Barefoot Admiral
2 Helmet Boy
3 Skywalker Cindy
4 Coolcastle Jet
5 Kingo (M)
6 Westmead Grant (W)
Ladbrokes carrying a 100k liability on Highview Shadow not that surprising considering the owner
Also adding Kiowa Myth 80s, ran better than it looked last race after finding loads of trouble and also Farley Blitz 20s even though its short enough given his tendency to miss the kick, I do like the Champion Stakes as a guide and have found a few winners running on from the rear in it in the past.
Trouble is I tend to like to have a few to follow in ante posts even if I dont really think they will win lol.
Are Ladbrokes serious when they say that, the bloke must surely have done his conkers with them to get that kind of money on.
I've won a few hundred off them on gaelic football and they limit me to £20.
Or is it one rule for one and one for another if they're in the public eye.
I've won a few hundred off them on gaelic football and they limit me to £20.
Or is it one rule for one and one for another if they're in the public eye.
(Re the 100k liability that is)
In the Racing Post today they say they will lay him even more if he wants it They must think it has no chance surely.
In the Racing Post today they say they will lay him even more if he wants it
They must think it has no chance surely.
The owner in question is an extremely well known gambler. The ladbrokes rep who was at the draw is a former rails bookie in Shelbourne so they would know who they are dealing with
be very interesting to see if Larry gambles it tonight against Makeshift
Going off topic slightly, I hear rumours that the opening round of the Puppy Derby at Harolds Cross has been moved to the Sunday after the Derby final night, instead of the Friday before.
Can anyone confirm this?
Can anyone confirm this?
The unfortunately injured Tyrur Brennan is the only confirmed non-runner in the second round of the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby. He was due to contest Heat 9 on Saturday but that will now be a five dog race with trap six vacant.
Paul Hennessy reports that He Told Ted has a slight injury but a decision on his participation in Heat 12 will not be made until later in the week.
There have been four changes in seeding for the second round. Thurlesbeg Joker, Burn Em Up and Ballymac Under all switch from wide to middle while Clonkeen Stan goes in the opposition direction.
Paul Hennessy reports that He Told Ted has a slight injury but a decision on his participation in Heat 12 will not be made until later in the week.
There have been four changes in seeding for the second round. Thurlesbeg Joker, Burn Em Up and Ballymac Under all switch from wide to middle while Clonkeen Stan goes in the opposition direction.
Carib King was this morning withdrawn from tonight’s opening heat in the second round of the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby at Shelbourne Park. His absence means that the opening heat will be a five-dog race with no reserves allowed once the first round has been completed.
DERBY TRAINERS IN UPBEAT MOOD
Monday, August 16th
There have been no reported injury problems as far as the 48 remaining contenders in the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby is confirmed. Indeed, all the trainers I spoke with today were very upbeat about their charges and looking forward to a “night of nights” at Shelbourne on Saturday night.
The third round is always the most eagerly anticipated round of the Derby as it brings all remaining contenders together on the same night for the first time in the classic. The draw has thrown up some really intriguing contests and it will be cut-throat stuff.
Dolores Ruth, who has three survivors, said that “it was a good weekend for us and all three dogs are in super form, there’s not a bother on them. I am happy enough with the draws and from here on it is all about Lady Luck and keeping the dogs in one piece. But I am hoping for the best and I couldn’t be happier with Makeshift, Razldazl Lord and Local Dee Jay”.
Her fellow Rathangan trainer Fraser Black, who also has three survivors, echoed her feelings. “I’ve no problems, they’re all okay after their runs and it’s all a question of keeping them sound. Krug Ninety Five is running on strong and I think he would even last 575. They’re all fine”.
“It is up to them now”
Another trainer with three challengers still standing is Paul Hennessy and he was his usual upbeat self as he reported a clean bill of health for his team.
“They’re grand, not a bother and we are hoping for the best. Barefoot Bullet probably needs to brush up on his starting a bit but he wants the outside box and he is in it, so no complaints there. The pup (Air Force Hawk) wants the inside and he is drawn in one while Colorful Champ is probably best drawn in three. He is in a very interesting race but it is up to them all now. Saturday should be a great night’s racing, there are some cracking races and the public will love it”.
Seamus Graham, who boasts the best record of any current trainer with three previous successes, has just Mesedo Blue this year but he was delighted with the dog’s run at the weekend. “He ran one of his best races and he showed real determination. I’m delighted with him but it is a tough race and he can afford no mistakes”.
“I’m hoping for a massive run”
Enniscorthy trainer Pat Gordon has two survivors and is hopeful that they can proceed to the next stage. “Fatboyz Tyson seems alright but I will be getting him checked out tomorrow.
There was some coughing in the kennel last week but I don’t think there is a problem. He seems to be hitting a flat spot down the back but he seems to be fine and hopefully he will keep floating along through the stake. I think Clonkeen Stan is improving and I would be hoping for a big run from him in the opening heat”.
Another handler with two survivors is Pat Buckley and he is also happy with his lot. “Both dogs are perfect. Hats My Boy is a lovely young dog and he is coming along all the time. I like him. Tullymurry Act is in great form and I would be hoping he would start to light up this weekend. I am hoping for a massive run from him”.
MONLEEK OK
Monday, August 16th
The rumour factory has been working overtime as usual and it is very encouraging to report that the stories doing the rounds about Monleek Bay are well wide of the mark.
The stories at Dundalk on Monday night had Monleek Bay as being out of the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby due to a major leg injury but John Downey this morning assured Shelbourne racing manager Declan Carey that the dog has nothing more than a minor muscle problem.
Monleek Bay is due to contest the red hot Heat 3 in the third round on Saturday night where his rivals will be Definate Opinion, Jim Said So, Colorful Champ, Tyrur Big Mike, Cookies Fantasy and Monleek Bay.
Monday, August 16th
There have been no reported injury problems as far as the 48 remaining contenders in the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby is confirmed. Indeed, all the trainers I spoke with today were very upbeat about their charges and looking forward to a “night of nights” at Shelbourne on Saturday night.
The third round is always the most eagerly anticipated round of the Derby as it brings all remaining contenders together on the same night for the first time in the classic. The draw has thrown up some really intriguing contests and it will be cut-throat stuff.
Dolores Ruth, who has three survivors, said that “it was a good weekend for us and all three dogs are in super form, there’s not a bother on them. I am happy enough with the draws and from here on it is all about Lady Luck and keeping the dogs in one piece. But I am hoping for the best and I couldn’t be happier with Makeshift, Razldazl Lord and Local Dee Jay”.
Her fellow Rathangan trainer Fraser Black, who also has three survivors, echoed her feelings. “I’ve no problems, they’re all okay after their runs and it’s all a question of keeping them sound. Krug Ninety Five is running on strong and I think he would even last 575. They’re all fine”.
“It is up to them now”
Another trainer with three challengers still standing is Paul Hennessy and he was his usual upbeat self as he reported a clean bill of health for his team.
“They’re grand, not a bother and we are hoping for the best. Barefoot Bullet probably needs to brush up on his starting a bit but he wants the outside box and he is in it, so no complaints there. The pup (Air Force Hawk) wants the inside and he is drawn in one while Colorful Champ is probably best drawn in three. He is in a very interesting race but it is up to them all now. Saturday should be a great night’s racing, there are some cracking races and the public will love it”.
Seamus Graham, who boasts the best record of any current trainer with three previous successes, has just Mesedo Blue this year but he was delighted with the dog’s run at the weekend. “He ran one of his best races and he showed real determination. I’m delighted with him but it is a tough race and he can afford no mistakes”.
“I’m hoping for a massive run”
Enniscorthy trainer Pat Gordon has two survivors and is hopeful that they can proceed to the next stage. “Fatboyz Tyson seems alright but I will be getting him checked out tomorrow.
There was some coughing in the kennel last week but I don’t think there is a problem. He seems to be hitting a flat spot down the back but he seems to be fine and hopefully he will keep floating along through the stake. I think Clonkeen Stan is improving and I would be hoping for a big run from him in the opening heat”.
Another handler with two survivors is Pat Buckley and he is also happy with his lot. “Both dogs are perfect. Hats My Boy is a lovely young dog and he is coming along all the time. I like him. Tullymurry Act is in great form and I would be hoping he would start to light up this weekend. I am hoping for a massive run from him”.
MONLEEK OK
Monday, August 16th
The rumour factory has been working overtime as usual and it is very encouraging to report that the stories doing the rounds about Monleek Bay are well wide of the mark.
The stories at Dundalk on Monday night had Monleek Bay as being out of the Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby due to a major leg injury but John Downey this morning assured Shelbourne racing manager Declan Carey that the dog has nothing more than a minor muscle problem.
Monleek Bay is due to contest the red hot Heat 3 in the third round on Saturday night where his rivals will be Definate Opinion, Jim Said So, Colorful Champ, Tyrur Big Mike, Cookies Fantasy and Monleek Bay.
never seen a derby before with so many dogs left with so much early, should be really good by the q/finals stage, luck will play a big part in the overall outcome, there are worst bets then killacorra glory e/w great finisher got 100/1 with P.POWER on monday down now to 66/1 . V.C had him at a ton yesterday.godluck with your bets.
Fears that injury may affect Definate Opinion’s Ladbrokes.com Irish Derby challenge have been allayed by the dog’s trainer Pat Guilfoyle who reports that the dog will be fit to run for his life on Saturday night at Shelbourne Park.
The Cesarewitch and Dundalk International winner was disappointing in the second round when being overtaken by Blazers Black after looking an assured winner. However Guilfoyle cleared up the mystery when reporting that the dog was sore after the race but he is very hopeful that the problem will have been rectified before this weekend’s action.
Said Pat: “He didn’t run the third bend properly and gave away a few lengths on it. I knew there was some problem and it transpired that he was very sore in the neck and shoulders. He has been treated for it ever since and he seems to be almost perfect. I am very hopeful you will see a different dog on Saturday night”.
Nothing less than his best would suffice in Heat 3 on Saturday where Tyrur Big Mike and Colorful Champ will be high profile opponents and the race is completed by Monleek Bay, Jim Said So and Cookies Fantasy.
No other problems have been reported in advance of the third round heats. By the way, entries are invited for open races on the nights of the quarter finals, semi-finals and final. The final night card will include open races over every distance from 350 up to 850 yards and also an open bitch 525.
The Cesarewitch and Dundalk International winner was disappointing in the second round when being overtaken by Blazers Black after looking an assured winner. However Guilfoyle cleared up the mystery when reporting that the dog was sore after the race but he is very hopeful that the problem will have been rectified before this weekend’s action.
Said Pat: “He didn’t run the third bend properly and gave away a few lengths on it. I knew there was some problem and it transpired that he was very sore in the neck and shoulders. He has been treated for it ever since and he seems to be almost perfect. I am very hopeful you will see a different dog on Saturday night”.
Nothing less than his best would suffice in Heat 3 on Saturday where Tyrur Big Mike and Colorful Champ will be high profile opponents and the race is completed by Monleek Bay, Jim Said So and Cookies Fantasy.
No other problems have been reported in advance of the third round heats. By the way, entries are invited for open races on the nights of the quarter finals, semi-finals and final. The final night card will include open races over every distance from 350 up to 850 yards and also an open bitch 525.
HE WILL HAVE TO BE SHARP ON SAT BJG, HE IS IN A TOUGH HEAT, TY FOR THE INFO.[:)]
someone wants 2.5k @ 14.0 on makeshift [smiley:crazy]
Not laid not there now. (probably came home drunk last night). lol
laid most of me green now for del boy, wanted to lay grant k95 but not much interest a/p. Levelled off blitz for a free bet. Want stan out, wise signal and under. Book looking good then.
great start for me 
ready in, grant maybe injured. need 134 in the next pl
ready in, grant maybe injured. need 134 in the next pl
Grant is ok
The very welcome news to emerge on Sunday morning was that Westmead Grant is perfectly okay after that serious scare the previous night in Heat 2 of the Derby.
The dog checked up badly approaching the pick-up and was then carried from the track. The word spread like wildfire that he had sustained a broken hock.
However Fraser Black was able to report this morning that everything is fine with the son of Droopys Scolari and Mega Delight. “He is fine. The vet, Ted Collins, checked him out after the race and could find nothing and he walked to the van okay. This morning there is not a problem with him. It was strange but it probably was a dead leg”.
Thankfully the dog was injured to add to a horrific week for trainer Black. Two of his classy trackers Forest Boss and Must Be Cantona broke hocks on Friday and Thursday nights respectively while he lost two young dogs the previous weekend. He deserves a serious turn of luck. Who knows, perhaps in the Derby!
The very welcome news to emerge on Sunday morning was that Westmead Grant is perfectly okay after that serious scare the previous night in Heat 2 of the Derby.
The dog checked up badly approaching the pick-up and was then carried from the track. The word spread like wildfire that he had sustained a broken hock.
However Fraser Black was able to report this morning that everything is fine with the son of Droopys Scolari and Mega Delight. “He is fine. The vet, Ted Collins, checked him out after the race and could find nothing and he walked to the van okay. This morning there is not a problem with him. It was strange but it probably was a dead leg”.
Thankfully the dog was injured to add to a horrific week for trainer Black. Two of his classy trackers Forest Boss and Must Be Cantona broke hocks on Friday and Thursday nights respectively while he lost two young dogs the previous weekend. He deserves a serious turn of luck. Who knows, perhaps in the Derby!
it's a horrid draw, think he's lucky the 3 and 4 don't really come away so may be able to escape it, hopefully anyway
It's difficult to know who will lead to the bend. The race might set-up for thurlesbeg joker.
Ladrokes.com Irish Greyhound Derby Semi Final Draw + Video of the Quarter Final Action
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/08/30/ladrokes-com-irish-greyhound-derby-semi-final-draw-video-of-the-quarter-final-action/
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/08/30/ladrokes-com-irish-greyhound-derby-semi-final-draw-video-of-the-quarter-final-action/
Think Tyrur McGuigan offers the only piece of value left in the Derby. 16/1 is huge with VC and 14's with the sponsors. He looks a carbon copy to Tyrur Rhino and has got the easier of the semi final draws. Very big price even if Big Mike looks flawless on what he's shown in the last two weeks!
agree com, put him up on the forum this time last week as outstanding value at 50/1 e/w with boyles, i dont think he will win the derby but was great e/w value, S.F im sweating on hats my boy backed him at 100/1 e/w first 6 again with boyles after the 1/round heats i will be happy if he gets through on sat, pity theres no place betting with betfair i would be glad to lay him.[:(][:p]
Wouldn't be surprised if McGuigan won on Saturday even tho I'm on the Bullet. As much as he's the best dog in the Derby, I could also envisage Big Mike struggling on Saturday if he misses the break! You're lookin good with those two bets tho Frank [;)]
the 50/1 tyrur mcguigan looks much much better because of the draw. i think i was personally lucky there. swap over the trap 5's and i wouldnt be so happy. Or even outside of bullet in this heat. If we clear under, hoping tyrur makes it.
Got a few quid up to lay hats at 17.00, just think foyle and tyrur go to the bend, and then you got hats-k95-bullet chasing 2 places to pip foyle.
Got a few quid up to lay hats at 17.00, just think foyle and tyrur go to the bend, and then you got hats-k95-bullet chasing 2 places to pip foyle.
after looking at the q/finals a few times i can only say that i think mes blue and dromore hero will go out on sat, in the 2nd heat i just cant call what might happen foyle storm is a lot better then punters think have a look at the last bend when he seemed to turn his head over towards ty mcguigan loseing ground as a result, if he breaks from trap one he could cause a shock.ballymac under has plenty early as well , very hard to call heat2.
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almost perfect, wanted mesado /champ instead of tully :-(
Tully.... -616
k95...... +400 (wont win)
mcguigan.. +329
tbm....... +1750
joker..... +2600 (cant see winning)
bullet..... +435 (cant see winning)
hopefully lay the 3 i dont think will win, reduce the tully red and build up big mike some more.
Tully.... -616
k95...... +400 (wont win)
mcguigan.. +329
tbm....... +1750
joker..... +2600 (cant see winning)
bullet..... +435 (cant see winning)
hopefully lay the 3 i dont think will win, reduce the tully red and build up big mike some more.
Tullymurry Act (0)
Krug Ninety five (0)
Tyrur McGuigan (0)
Tyrur Big Mike (a fortune)
Thurlesbeg Joker (ok but my smallest winner)
Barefoot Bullet (a lot)
Krug Ninety five (0)
Tyrur McGuigan (0)
Tyrur Big Mike (a fortune)
Thurlesbeg Joker (ok but my smallest winner)
Barefoot Bullet (a lot)
My figures not far off yours Martys, except a minus for both Tullymurry and McGuigan, though bit more for Krug and Bullet and slightly less for Joker and Big Mike....
Will have a look at balancing the books either tonight or tomorrow, though I dont think McGuigan will win personally.
I could honestly see Joker going close if there was any trouble though with the favourite, would have caught Tullymurry last time out if he hadnt got hemmed in at one stage, though would be happy for Big Mike to skip clear and save any stress lol.
McGuigan's only hope is to skip clear and while he could lead, not sure he would stay far enough in front for long enough. Tullymurry also would probably have to lead and doesnt always trap the best, though has improved a bit lately in that respect.
Don't have much confidence in Bullet to get the job done either, seems to have looked a bit reluctant near the line or else has some stamina issues over 550.
Will have a look at balancing the books either tonight or tomorrow, though I dont think McGuigan will win personally.
I could honestly see Joker going close if there was any trouble though with the favourite, would have caught Tullymurry last time out if he hadnt got hemmed in at one stage, though would be happy for Big Mike to skip clear and save any stress lol.
McGuigan's only hope is to skip clear and while he could lead, not sure he would stay far enough in front for long enough. Tullymurry also would probably have to lead and doesnt always trap the best, though has improved a bit lately in that respect.
Don't have much confidence in Bullet to get the job done either, seems to have looked a bit reluctant near the line or else has some stamina issues over 550.
Krug has done the job for me anyhow with the e/w so anything else is a bonus though if there was trouble of course anything could happen I suppose.
i greened up a bit, Tullymurry is my smallest winner giving me 490 profit, Big Mike is a beano 
As said earlier my Maths is awful, but think I've finally managed to work out the exact figures as it stands, I seem to win a bit more on some than I thought but a bit less on others as I forgot to substract the stakes of some of those I have in the final doh!!
Counting the each way bet as landed in amongst too:
Tullymurry Act - £9
Krug Ninety Five + £1141
Tyrur McGuigan - £9
Tyrur Big Mike + 1266
Thurlesbeg Joker + 1551
Barefoot Bullet + 841
Suppose it aint too bad as it stands really, might just have a token small bet on Act and McGuigan maybe at reasonable odds.
Counting the each way bet as landed in amongst too:
Tullymurry Act - £9
Krug Ninety Five + £1141
Tyrur McGuigan - £9
Tyrur Big Mike + 1266
Thurlesbeg Joker + 1551
Barefoot Bullet + 841
Suppose it aint too bad as it stands really, might just have a token small bet on Act and McGuigan maybe at reasonable odds.
Not a lay in sight either!! Otherwise would probably have gotten in a right pickle lol.
iv laid krug now, so krugs costing me 400 and bet tully. laid bullet somewhat.
just hope 3 doesnt hamper 4 and 5 and 6. and 2 follows 1 around.
cant bring myslef to lay off joker at 10.0 seems to big.
come on BIG MIKE. No to k95.
just hope 3 doesnt hamper 4 and 5 and 6. and 2 follows 1 around.
cant bring myslef to lay off joker at 10.0 seems to big.
come on BIG MIKE. No to k95.
Yes I think Joker should be third in the betting really, I can understand Tullymurry being 2nd fav as Joker will need to come from behind him probably but there was hardly anything between them on the last run.
Can't understand how Bullet and McGuigan have usurped the Joker as surely the second semi wasn't as good a standard overall.
Can't understand how Bullet and McGuigan have usurped the Joker as surely the second semi wasn't as good a standard overall.
agree m8 about tullymurray i can see him being better then 3rd around the first bend and with 3 stayers behind him theres no chance for him to win should be around 6/1 not 9/2 .BIG MIKE TO WIN FROM THE BULLET IS MY F/CAST.[:)]
The only way i can see tullmurry win is if Mcguigan forces mike very wide between the 3rd and 4th bends, and the former gets a lovely run on the inside. The bullet could hold up joker as well.
im with vinnie, any trouble between 3/4 could see 5+6 dragged in, leaving a nice inside run for tully and k95
Anyway backed Act and McGuigan to win about £200 each just to be on safe side, would be a big anti climax if there was nowt to come!!
I think if Big Mike comes away about level he ought to be OK as McGuigan didnt seem to go that wide on the run up itself and then he can maybe edge ahead, the problem would be if he missed it a few lengths.
But on times he has done 3 of the top 5 clocks this year over CD and 4 out of the top 10.
The Joker has 3 entries in the top 10 and 4 in the top 12 so shows how overpriced he is really.
Then we have McGuigan in 16th and Bullet in 18th, Act 21st and Krug uncharted, sounds like Top of the Pops!!
I think if Big Mike comes away about level he ought to be OK as McGuigan didnt seem to go that wide on the run up itself and then he can maybe edge ahead, the problem would be if he missed it a few lengths.
But on times he has done 3 of the top 5 clocks this year over CD and 4 out of the top 10.
The Joker has 3 entries in the top 10 and 4 in the top 12 so shows how overpriced he is really.
Then we have McGuigan in 16th and Bullet in 18th, Act 21st and Krug uncharted, sounds like Top of the Pops!!
PP Specials on the Derby Final
Irish Derby Greyhound to Finish Last
Krug Ninety Five 9/4
Tyrur McGuigan 5/2
Barefoot Bullet 4/1
Thurlesbeg Joker 4/1
Tullymurry Act 6/1
Tyrur Big Mike 14/1
Tyrur Big Mike and Tyrur McGuigan to finish first and second in either order - 4/1
Betting Without Tyrur Big Mike
Tullymurry Act 2/1
Barefoot Bullet 3/1
Thurlesbeg Joker 3/1
Tyrur McGuigan 4/1
Krug Ninety Five 8/1
Track Record To Be Broken in Final (excluding going allowance) - 4/1
Irish Derby Greyhound to Finish Last
Krug Ninety Five 9/4
Tyrur McGuigan 5/2
Barefoot Bullet 4/1
Thurlesbeg Joker 4/1
Tullymurry Act 6/1
Tyrur Big Mike 14/1
Tyrur Big Mike and Tyrur McGuigan to finish first and second in either order - 4/1
Betting Without Tyrur Big Mike
Tullymurry Act 2/1
Barefoot Bullet 3/1
Thurlesbeg Joker 3/1
Tyrur McGuigan 4/1
Krug Ninety Five 8/1
Track Record To Be Broken in Final (excluding going allowance) - 4/1
Never been so disappointed to win £200 but credit the winner, has improved a fair bit every round of the competition and capitalised on the draw when it mattered.
gutted to.. all in. Laid bullet, joker and krug and a little t-b-m.
tully was 2nd bet and tyrur m 3rd :-(
tully was 2nd bet and tyrur m 3rd :-(
I think Mike would have been OK but missed the break when it was one time he really needed to be fairly close to McGuigan, once he checked out it was pretty much over for him.
Also Krug checked when challenging for the places and baulked Joker who was in behind and Tullymurry completely missed it so its a pity a few more didnt get the run of the race to make it competitive but thats racing as they say.
Also Krug checked when challenging for the places and baulked Joker who was in behind and Tullymurry completely missed it so its a pity a few more didnt get the run of the race to make it competitive but thats racing as they say.
Actually watching it again this morning Big Mike didnt miss it THAT drastically, wasnt particularly fast out but soon paced up, just that the early pace of McGuigan had taken him a few lengths up already. And if Big Mike wasnt going to lead by half way he wasnt really going to run down a leader given his style of racing.
Once he checked that was it really although he did close at three quarters didnt seem to be totally decisive in where to go, went wide and that was that.
Suppose Joker's lack of early pace was his achilles heel but never seemed to get a proper run in this event, in the Easter Cup probably the opposition wasnt quite as strong and he could get a better early position just behind the leaders.
Here he seemed to be off the pace and running into trouble all the time, got baulked about three times last night before running on into fourth.
But well done to McGuigan, having watched the race again can't see there was any fluke about it really.
Once he checked that was it really although he did close at three quarters didnt seem to be totally decisive in where to go, went wide and that was that.
Suppose Joker's lack of early pace was his achilles heel but never seemed to get a proper run in this event, in the Easter Cup probably the opposition wasnt quite as strong and he could get a better early position just behind the leaders.
Here he seemed to be off the pace and running into trouble all the time, got baulked about three times last night before running on into fourth.
But well done to McGuigan, having watched the race again can't see there was any fluke about it really.
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