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silove
14 Sep 16 17:00
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I was just wanting to know are there many people out there making a living or good money from betfair,i am myself now and was just interested if there are many others that make a living or make alot of ££££ from it and is it on golf? 99% of my bet are on golf. i hope plenty of others do too as alot of work goes into it.....
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Report sickoflayinwinners September 14, 2016 9:50 PM BST
not so thinly veiled "i am  a pro golf punter"
Report no moves September 15, 2016 12:20 AM BST
More like a thinly veiled......I'M full of ****.
Report bobweenit September 15, 2016 11:19 AM BST
BEEN A PRO GOLF PUNTER 4 8 YEARS! I AM THE FORUM GOAT
Report bobweenit September 15, 2016 11:20 AM BST
The liquidity is so poor these days with a lot of the Big traders not here anymore! But they come out play when they have the fast pics 4 the Pga most weekends
Report Catch Me ifyoucan September 15, 2016 12:54 PM BST
BOB, I thought that 'GOAT Award' always goes to... Biffo2010 Sept 5, 2016 5:58PM... Casey gnna win this Tongue Out
Report bobweenit September 15, 2016 3:42 PM BST
GrinLaugh
Report silove September 19, 2016 11:26 AM BST
do you still think its possible to win alot on betfair and purple? ive bet everyweekend this year on both tours ive lost twice this year so alot of wins
Report silove September 19, 2016 11:31 AM BST
I think the markets are not too bad for getting bets on at decent prices......
Report lewisham ranger September 20, 2016 9:53 PM BST
you've lost twice this year and won every other weekend...


hmmmm either you're a liar or you're a trader
Report mr meagi September 20, 2016 10:05 PM BST
There is a simple solution here, silove. I am not a gambler as such but betfair can count. Go into your profit and loss for last 3 mths and send us the printout, without changing it. Here's mine by the way...............


Golf: -€12.12 | Soccer: €54.69  Total P&L:  €42.57


Cool
Report a bitofinterest September 21, 2016 12:18 AM BST
you're showing a loss on the golf mr meagi,you need to follow silove
Report Kelly September 21, 2016 12:47 AM BST
Liquidity pretty poor these days except on the Sunday . Markets often are running near the 100 % on the last round , profit can be made selectively . But the scalpers who are ahead of the game get any cream there is .

Picking outright winners is damn near impossible in my opinion , was relatively easy once when Tiger and Monty were around , but there is a different generation about now , none of whom feel the need to win every week . There is so much money sloshing around the top players that being in top 125 is sufficient to guarantee a great living .
Report El Bandido September 21, 2016 7:04 AM BST
mr meagi - How are you not winning on golf? If you had just put £100 on each of your Golf Comp picks over the last 3 months, you would be over 12k up!
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 8:14 AM BST
Hi El Bandido,
              I bet with PP and use Betfair as a counterweight/cover. Betfair is merging into an extended PP and the only value is to be found on the outsiders and the problem with that is that there are so many of them. Most of these are never winning propositions and even when they are in contention it is impossible to use them as currency. I remember a Golf Trader saying to me that he could not afford to gamble on Golf. I am beginning to see his point. I also agree that the modern golfers have other concerns other than winning golf tournaments.Look at Spieth this year, look at Fowler, look at Scott winning while getting a quadruple bogey, the time off people like McIlroy, Willet, Grace, Schwartzel,Stenson afford themselves when seemingly 'out of form' is ridiculous. Don't start me on Justin Rose? It is like a Grand National every week with 150+runners.Scared Mystic Meg, could not predict this stuff. IMHO This week I am going to go last and pick the ones that no one else wants. I just might win.
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 8:42 AM BST
PP: (Each Way Terms 1/5 places 1,2,3,4,5)
    Johnson, Dustin 9/2
    Mcilroy, Rory 11/2   
    Spieth, Jordan 8/1
    Scott, Adam 9/1
    Day, Jason 9/1
Betfair:Dustin Johnson 6.2
        Rory McIlroy 7.8
        Jordan Spieth 9.6
        Jason Day 11.5
        Adam Scott 12.5O

This is like looking in the window of Animal FarmGrin. Odds checker is all the same. Bookmakers make a book via consensus and they offer you lower than the actual odds to make a profit. When this is done they leave the head work to you. What is a commodity in Golf. Matsuyama, Hideki 6/4 to finish in the top 10 (I don't think so?), but there is no way I will lay him at 4.3 on Betfair. We are between a rock and a hard place.IMHO
Report silove September 21, 2016 10:39 AM BST
Athletics: £6.23 | Golf: £1,695.15 | Horse Racing: £8.38 | Motor Sport: £49.44 | Soccer: £18.58 | Tennis: £5.70  Total P&L:  £1,783.48
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 10:46 AM BST
hi silove,

a profit is a profit and well done for posting. Bookies are quite happy to trade at 5-10% of turnover. Have you any idea what your profit to turnover margin is? If it is higher than this over a sustained period ie over 12 mths of continuous activity then you are indeed 'doing well'.Congrats.Surprised
Report El Bandido September 21, 2016 11:09 AM BST
mr meagi - I hope you're winning nicely on PP. I wouldn't like to encourage others to gamble, but it seems to me if you're 117 points in profit (38% RoI) from 62 tournaments for your 5 picks in the comp, then it's worth a punt.
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 11:33 AM BST
Kind words, El Bandido, and thanks.

This is what I know.

It takes alot of money to turn a bad punter into an average punter. It usually never happens.
My Missus can break even with a bookmaker, by walking past their shop.
Any level of gambling is time consuming. I will never earn more per hour gambling than a lady working on a Tesco Till.
The only way is to use what silvoe refers to as a system.
To do that you need self-discipline and perseverence. I have dropped all systems that I have encountered to date for performance reasons.
All I accumulate is experience but with gambling as in other aspects of life, you either have talent or you have not. My Dad was what I would call a nine and I would generously regard myself as a six. My Missus is a five. What are you? Grin
Report lewisham ranger September 21, 2016 11:44 AM BST
strange how someone who can barely put a readable sentence together is thousands up.

good editing?
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 11:48 AM BST
Adam Scott PGA EVENTS PLAYED= 264
1ST    2ND    3RD
13    11    10

Let us do the Maths here. Lets assume another 30 times placed==13 wins from approx 200 times when no place return.

This guy should be approx 17/1 at least. He is 9/1 on PP and 12.5 on Betfair. This is like the rake in Online Poker.

''If you dance on the side of a hill you will end up in the valley'' mr meagi Wink
Report donny osmond September 21, 2016 11:57 AM BST
my profit loss doesnt have this soccer !

its football on mine , strange !



but punters do need to wise up to bookies
Report El Bandido September 21, 2016 12:06 PM BST
It's football on mine as well, donny. But maybe it's soccer for Irish users? But then I don't know why it would be in £. Not saying anyone's busted or anything Laugh

mr meagi, judging by the Golf Comp, which is the only true test, I'd surely have to be an 8 or a 9.
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 12:12 PM BST
It's soccer on mine. If you had a thousand pounds free bet to invest on the Tour Tournament, EB, what would you do with it? Let's see if you use it wisely.

This is what I would do. I would back the Field on PP.

Big Guns v The Field   
The Field 11/10   
The Big Guns(Scott, Johnson, Day, Spieth, Mcilroy)Excited
Report El Bandido September 21, 2016 12:23 PM BST
I will post my 5 picks on the competition thread, like always. Obviously can only judge these things over time.
Report lewisham ranger September 21, 2016 1:48 PM BST

mr meagi 21 Sep 16 11:48 Joined: 18 May 06 | Topic/replies: 62 | Blogger: mr meagi's blog
Adam Scott PGA EVENTS PLAYED= 264
1ST    2ND    3RD
13    11    10

Let us do the Maths here. Lets assume another 30 times placed==13 wins from approx 200 times when no place return.

This guy should be approx 17/1 at least. He is 9/1 on PP and 12.5 on Betfair. This is like the rake in Online Poker.

''If you dance on the side of a hill you will end up in the valley'' mr meagi Wink


I think I worked out that most of these big named players are dreadful value. actually of the players around now only Day, Mcilroy and Spieth have a win ratio close to ten percent. Tigers win to run ratio was amazing at one point but not sustainable.
Report mengmeng September 21, 2016 2:39 PM BST
dont forget the prices will be a little shorted and tighter this week due to the number of players. so that is part of the reason scott is 9/1
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 2:54 PM BST
Hi mengmeng, the reason Scott is 9-11/1 is the following.


Golf is a minority betting sport for good reasons. Your average punter avoids it like the plague. With so little harvest cash to grab then why would a golf trader go out on a limb and offer 20/1 Adam Scott. If you are selling Aluminium Alloys in your motor-shop there is no harm in selling bunch flowers at the door.That is what Golf trading is, ie 'bunch flowers'. There is fantastic value for the masters/ and the open when there is loads of mug money floating about as a result of the Sky hype. The Ryder Cup is just a toss of the coin but they will find a gimmick to drag us all in. More money will be bet on the Dublin/Mayo replay than the Ryder Cup is my bet. What do you think. To date there is 58 quid bet on Betfair on the Tour Top US market/

Going In-PlayCash OutRules PinMatched: EUR 58
Hold me, I feel dizzy!Silly
Report mr meagi September 21, 2016 6:15 PM BST
This is Sky Bet's offering(wtf!) There are 25 more participants to fill Trap 6
Dustin Johnson    9/2

Rory McIlroy    5/1

Jordan Spieth   15/2

Jason Day       8/1

Adam Scott      9/1
Report silove September 23, 2016 12:53 PM BST
Dj is 4.1 i think thats a good price.2/1 with stanjames
Report bobweenit September 24, 2016 8:16 PM BST
boys tbh you lot should jack the game in obviously not 4 you leave it to to me
Report bobweenit September 24, 2016 8:18 PM BST
18-Sep-16
16:28:20    Italian Open 2016
Francesco Molinari - Winner
Betfair Bet ID 1:74750279530 | Placed: 15-Sep-16 14:20:57    Back    15.50    222.00    --
3,219.00
Won
18-Sep-16
16:28:20    Italian Open 2016
Francesco Molinari - Winner
Betfair Bet ID 1:74750352645 | Placed: 15-Sep-16 14:22:11    Back    18.50    66.00    --
1,155.00
Won
18-Sep-16
16:28:20    Italian Open 2016
Francesco Molinari - Winner
Betfair Bet ID 1:74754644080 | Placed: 15-Sep-16 15:36:28    Back    8.20    122.00    --
878.40
Won
Report bobweenit September 24, 2016 8:18 PM BST

Sep 15, 2016 -- 5:19AM, bobweenit wrote:


BEEN A PRO GOLF PUNTER 4 8 YEARS! I AM THE FORUM GOAT


LIKE I SAID FORUM GOAT!

Report bobweenit September 24, 2016 8:19 PM BST
IF I HAD ANY ADVICE 4 YOU GUYS IT WOULD BE STOP SHAVING YOUR BALLS AND GET THEM NICE AND HAIRY LIKE MINEGrinLaugh
Report bobweenit September 24, 2016 8:39 PM BST
VASOS ALEXANDRA OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Report HeinzGuderian September 25, 2016 9:41 PM BST

Sep 24, 2016 -- 2:19PM, bobweenit wrote:


IF I HAD ANY ADVICE 4 YOU GUYS IT WOULD BE STOP SHAVING YOUR BALLS AND GET THEM NICE AND HAIRY LIKE MINE


bobweenit • September 25, 2016 6:56 PM BST
FULL BANK DUSTBIN AND WAIT TO COLLECT

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Report donny osmond October 8, 2017 1:51 PM BST
bit earlier last year silove?
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