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She doesn't even seem to think she's done anything wrong. Shameful. She's certainly ensured how she'll be remembered in the history of the game..
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Atrocious - captain should have stepped in, simply had to be a gimme once Europes players and caddies started walking off - got to give them a half here
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What happened ?
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Read other thread.
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correct - in my mind whether it was 1ft, 3ft, 4ft is irrelevant - once the Europeans walked away it was tacit acknowledgement of a concession.
Play a bit of team golf myself, nice one though, could keep it in the back burner for a critical moment ![]() |
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You might be able to add Carin Koch to the title of this thread. The word "disgrace" may be a tad harsh, but seems she had the opportunity to
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Yes, the whole incident has cast a cloud over a top class event. The closing ceremony is going to be very difficult.
I don't think 'disgrace' is too harsh because this is something that just doesn't and shouldn't have happened. I can't see any excuses at all. If the Europeans can't see that Pettersen has made a complete fool of herself then something is badly wrong. She had the opportunity to write the wrong and any apology at a later date will just be meaningless. Hopefully, it will be her last involvement. |
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not many americans will turn up for her big charity event next year.they will all be busy.
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Not many Americans might not turn up for the closing ceremony of THIS event!
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There goes Petteresen's future captaincy.
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simply proves that boorish behaviour exists in all sports & destroys any spirit of sportsmanship
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can you imagine what it's going to be like if this finishes 14 to 14?
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The American should not have picked the ball up, many times I have had the situation where my opponent has walked away when I have been left a tap in, but I will always ask if it is conceded or tap it in. I will also tell my opponent their putt is given no matter the length, after all it is your decision not theirs as to weather the putt is conceded or not.
Pettersen is getting a lot of stick for this and I have not seen the interviews but at what distance of putt would Pettersons actions seem correct and the American's taking the p1ss is thinking it should be conceded? My action from each prospective would be, American; I have made a stupid mistake and walk to the next tee, not moan about thinking it was given. European / Pettersen; I would so that's, no problem and play the 18th all square, but as I said above there has to be a distance where that action would change. |
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simple remedy; you putt out at every hole as in stroke play
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Pettersson 3 down.
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Shocking attitude from Petterson and what a role model for youngsters coming into golf.
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You make me laugh if Seve had done what Suzanne did he would have been a hero
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good point there, but I don't think any of the men would be so naïve to make the mistake that Lee made in the first place. Seve used to cough on player's backswings and that was called gamesmanship
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GOLF is either a pro game or an amateur game they need to make their mind and get rid of all these lovely gestures from years ago,its a weekly thing on the circut people phoning in about what they have or havnt seen every match has a reff let him reff it and take away any input from the players
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Europeans have a long history of charmless behaviour in the Rhyder cup. Seve was one of the most guilty added to an inability to view anything in a rational manner...thwe US were often startled and bemused at
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Yes but it expected of the red blooded latinos. The ice cool Scandinavians are usually a different breed
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Europeans have a long history of charmless behaviour at the Ryder cup are you havin a laugh
Do you watch Golf up to 9/11 the Americans behaviour at the Ryder cup was a disgrace on more than one occasion |
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in 1999 the Americans even had their wives treading on Olazabal's line of his putt on 17, and some of them were wearing heels
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anybody remember the 'War on the Shore'?
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The European fans also a dreadful rabble, especially the British and Irish, remember sitting in a stand watchin and it was like being surrounded by a group of chimpanzees...appalling mob.
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I don't think European fans can ever be compared in an unfavourable light compared to the Americans, in the Kiawah Island match I remember the crowd kicking Hale Irwin's ball back into play on 18 in that infamous match. Plus all the Monty-baiting, etc.
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I'll give a small example of the wierdness of the way some of the europeans think. It was in the British open so can be magnified a few times for the Ryder cup. Seve and Tom Watson going out for the final round, last pair. Seve spots Watson coming to the first tee wearing a light blue jumper and immediately his face darkens and even much latert he stops Watson and asks what does he think he is doing...is he trying to intimadate and anger him?..
Watson wasn't to know, how could he? that Ballesterous wore a blue jersey on the final day and thought Watson had done it deliberately to gain advantage!....the Americans learnt to tread carefully with the europeans. |
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what year was that lfc?
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Lets be charitable and regard it as a spur of the moment decision.It happens Fortunately the right result in the end
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Lets be charitable and regard it as a spur of the moment decision.It happens Fortunately the right result in the end
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dave1357 it was the 83 US open.
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Here is the weirdness. American golfers dressing like there going to war
100 people some in high heels running on someone's line Some **** shouting mashed potato and get in the hole |
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My take on it:
The ruling was the right one. But the european should have done something in the spirit of the game. Half the match or let her put it. You play top professional golf for 12 years. Top 10 in the world for many years. In 20 years most people will only remember the 17th hole in that match. Sorry for Suzann but she got it way wrong, and Europe lost the match right there. The talk among the europeans on the 18 th green after that match was were very intense. As far as I heard on the TV Koch, Sörenstam and Sunnesson were all against Suzann but she stood firm. |
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http://www.golfchannel.com/media/controversy-17-solheim-cup/
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pretty low
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Can we officially blame Pettersen for losing Europe the cup yet? Not only firing up the Yanks, but what about the negative effect on her own team mates? Most of them were as flat as a pancake in the singles, Charlie Hull was a shadow of the previous sessions, and Petteresen herself was awful.
No way of knowing what would have happened anyway, but you have to think the controversy was worth at least the half point Europe lost by. 'Poll' - if Pettersengate never happened, and Europe went into the singles with a 3 point lead instead of 4, do you think they would have won? |
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charley hull got outplayed in the singles, simple
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didnt like the crocodile tears from her either
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