Solheim Cup

Fair play to the American girls. Took that really well. Feel really bad for poor Alison lee.

Looks like Charley a hull knows they were out of order. Pettersen definitely pushed that one.

Ruined the event for me .

Yes I agree that wasn't good. Should have made Hull putt that last one for the win.

Agree chicken she should have putted that now we will never know.

very odd. pettersen and hull looked like they were walking to the next hole. if they wanted her to putt surely you wait ?

I agree it's been fantastic so far. The way I see it, CH was walking off the green on 17 after the missed putt. It must have been SP that stated that the putt wasn't given in the first place otherwise the referee would have said 'all square'. The arguing the fact that it was 2 to 3 feet, rather than 1 foot, is a disgrace. They should have sorted this out before they teed off at 18 as it could have further affected the match....ie CH could have had a birdie putt to ultimately win the match. This doesn't look good whichever way you look at it. Feel ashamed to be European at the moment.

Feel sorry for Suzanne Pettersen here, going to mark her for a long time and she's the only one who doesn't seem to realise it yet.

Exactly john. Her reputation won't recover from this.

Don't feel sorry for her though, brought it all on herself. Really poor form.

It's charley hull I feel sorry for.

I hear what you are saying John, but find it difficult to feel sorry for something that was all of her creating. What makes it worse is that she is still defending what she did.

Has someone died?

Women's golf!

I've backed Europe and I want the Yanks to win it.

Such a shame a great tournament will be affected by one silly moment like that. Laura Davies spot on.

Even if we give that match as a half, the damage is done.

Would be the right thing to do all the same.

On a personal level...wanted to back CH in singles but not too sure about her mental state now

Just said exactly the same thing Fairbet. You could say that for the whole Europe team tbh.

The yanks probably value to win the whole thing from here

Sorry for asking but what has gone on this morning?

I have only just tuned in

I feel sorry for her because the line between the sheer competitive nature of this event - same goes for Ryder Cup - and the sportsmanship they keep going on about is going to get blurred now and again. Pettersen is one of the fiercest competitors on the tour, always one of the most popular, so in the moment it was just her instincts coming through. Not saying she is right, far from it, but the reaction is a bit OTT. Have enjoyed Laura Davies' commentary, but she was wrong in condemning the player as she did.

All square going down 17 in a fourball match. The young American Alison Lee had a ten footer to win the hole. Missed it and it was literally a foot away. The two Europe girls walked off as if it was conceded. The Anerican girl went and picked the ball up, then looked up as she realised they hadn't actually conceded it verbally. Peterson then said she was still thinking about it and hadn't conceded so took the hole. Charley Hull was playing with her is crying and in bits. She knows it was wrong. Peterson forced it.

Just seen it now

thanks

Yes, agree CCM....going to add a different dimenson to the singles for sure. John. I've had this happen to me in a match and it's not very nice I can tell you. Nevermind, a few million people seeing you bringing the integrity of golf to question. She's experienced enough to know better.

Petersen clearly wrong.  The yank Nicole Castale is going over the top - you can sense she doesn't want the match to be called a half - so Yanks can either win, or claim high moral ground

5/1 USA! Makes sense for me to green up anyway, but think that's a big price considering where we are now.

Fairbet, I actually had a similar experience on the course myself, a guy throwing me my ball after I'd played out of the sand to about 2 feet. I thought he was giving me the putt, turned out he'd just marked it and threw me the ball. So i'm walking towards next tee, and they're laughing and calling me back. I was so angry i didn't even trouble the hole. I'm sure it was illegal him marking my ball, but I didn't go down that road!

Anyway, glad at least there's a thread about the Solheim. It's been a great event to watch, and the commentary is just so superior to what you get at the regular tour events. Same at the Evian Championship last week.

Don't think 'the Yank' is going over the top. Perfectly fair assessment. Imagine if the boot was on the other foot.

Are the bookmakers bothering to price up the singles?

Don't think she is either. Think she's spot on.

The term Yank isn't a problem is it drum?!

The only positive that can be taken is that this isn't being played in the US!

...posted on other thread..

Correct- in my mind whether it was 1ft, 3ft, 4ft is irrelevant - once the Europeans walked away it was tacit acknowledgement of a concession.

Play a bit of team golf myself, nice one though, could keep it in the back burner for a critical moment

Let's hope Europe don't win by a single point or less. I know the damage is already done but a clear gap will make it easier to try and gloss over.

Whole event has been tarnished now.  Closing ceremonies usually involve numerous speeches emphasising fair play and sportsmanship.
A few amendments may need to be made to the pre prepared narratives!

euro captain not seen in a good light in that interview

It gets worse. Karin Koch now trying to justify Pettersens actions! Not a hint of regret..

inkster spoke very well in that interview putting the euro captain to shame

Really surprised by that interview

Easy to take the moral high ground though isn't it? Inkster was right, but it's pretty easy to say what she did.

Felt a bit sorry for Carin Koch tbh. She been out in an awkward position by Pettersen and couldn't really stand up the and slag her off.

koch is the captain not petterson could have given them the 18th all square and move on to the singles.

I agree Nellie. But if she wasn't there when it happened and she asks her player Pettersen, who presumably was adamant she wasn't wrong, she's in a tricky position IMO.

Could have been stronger, but loathe to blame her tbh.

i would have agreed until listening to the official koch asked him if she could do anything and he said you can concede the 18th and obviously she did not do that but thats down to her in my eyes

the whole episode typifies typical female indecision , the european team leaders were obviously tryin to sway Koch and Pettersen towards the half match option but they couldnt see the light. Pettersen & Koch are rightly being accused of unsporting behaviour on the world stage.

Remember Koch being a brilliant player in this, but she's let herself down here.
"Is there anything we can do?"
"Yes"
"Oh $hit"

I've just turned on the golf and missed all this, how long was the putt? was it missable? I agree that if both players were walking off that is an acknowledgement of concession

hardly more than 1 foot - no chance she was missing it

Female indecision??? Jeez, let's bring a bit of stereotyping here while we're at it.

Can't say exactly how long putt was, but definitely more than a foot, at least 2 anyway.

Dont think that putt was 2 feet - the ref said 16 inches, but it didnt look that long to me - 2 feet could be missable, and that didnt look missable at all

I need to see this, checked youtube and thres nothing

Ok you could be right Father, I'd need to see it again.

I've seen it now, it was close but I've seen those asked to be holed plenty of times, no way she misses it though. A very unfortunate incident, the way Hull and the caddies walked off it seemed pretty clear that it was given. Nobody walks to the next tee when someone is holing out, it's just bad sportsmanship, if my opponents walked off before I holed out I would pick my ball up too

GRANTCKING    20 Sep 15 10:44 
I need to see this, checked youtube and thres nothing Cry

videos off it on sky sports website

Saw it on Sky sp news,just over a foot.Unmissable,she will need to be  hard skinned for it not to affect her in the singles.Think they said the girl she's playing has lost 9 on the spin.

Sep 20, 2015 -- 4:49AM, dlarssonf wrote:

GRANTCKING    20 Sep 15 10:44  I need to see this, checked youtube and thres nothing Cryvideos off it on sky sports website

ty, see it now

have just seen it, thats shocking from petterson, agree with hull and the caddys walking away it looks like a concession, very poor from petterson and the koch

Big fan of this Lexi Thompson I must admit

in golfing terms?

sexi lexi

Yep. Been following her for a while, though must admit Lydia Ko was different gravy in the Evian Masters last week and has all the golf majors at her mercy in the next few years.

Julie Inkster's got lips like a rubber dinghy - she could probably fit a few refugees in her gob.

hope usa can win after that embarrassment on the 17th. europe matched down to 1.03..out to 2.5 now. game on it would appear!

Drawn looking good, europe retain

14 each would be a disaster scoreline for the controversy, not a good way to keep the cup

14-14 or 14.5-13.5 Europe with Pettersen holing the crucial putt at the last would be just brilliant viewing

This is going to be close now!!

USA have done well but Piller looks on the verge of bottling it.

It looks like it is down to Suzann to get a half... your couldnt have written it

you are right DD, two chances to win it on 18

Sexy Lexi will be cursing, had chance to win the opener

What a great putt. Good on her

hahaha suzanne ruined her rep for nothing, USA have won, happy for them tbh, get it round her

delighted.

Not sure many people would have backed Piller to make that putt but it ended up deciding the match. After what happened earlier pleased the USA won, a good result for Golf. Certainly makes the closing ceremony a little easier.

The SKY coverage was truly shocking. Crucial shots and putts weren't even shown and the commentary team sounded like they were at a wake.

I've been saying it for 3 long long long days.. And the cameramen must have been Syrian (allegedly) migrants with a degree in Kodak Brownies employed by  Oberste Führer Merkel..

petterson & koch are a pair of graceless,unsporting swedish c*nts..so glad to see justice served..karma
what a putt piller holed..showed some real cojones(figuratively speaking)..played well all week
what a comeback by C kerr
those 2 baitches have forever sullied a great week's golf & it will take many many Solheim cups for the bitter aftertaste to dissipate
what an incredible comeback this..japan beating the saffers who got their habitual choke in earlier than even they normally do
there is just no legislating for what sport can deliver

Johnnythebull not everyone who lost in sport choked.  Every week you are on with a list ffs ......  South Africa didn't choke , Japan were absolutely amazing and fully deserved the win

dl..come on,man..ur being far 2 generous to the saffers
totally agree re Japan..kudos & props ..great to see the 'minnows' excelling but if you had polled a 1000 rugby purists would you even have got one that would have truly felt that result would actually have happened?
BTW,i think you will find that SA have got a little bit of previous re not winning when they should have

she's still a c*nt tho' foz whersoever she hails from

well done usa, a fair bit of karma going on here methinks

God knows what Sky were playing at - they were showing shots of Hedwall 6 down against Wie, when Masson was 1 down going down the last - then the commentators have to work out that Masson has his two shots to 15 feet on the last - Sky have covered it for 3 days and nearly missed the hole that could have decided it - what a bunch of w****s

never saw Peterson,Koch incident

anyone have link

must of been bad

http://www.golfchannel.com/media/controversy-17-solheim-cup/

Cheered Europe as usual for two days, cheered USA even louder today on the back of that.

So pleased that USA won and that Europe got what Pettersen and Coch deserved. Justice served.

They wanted that point so much they would do anything for it, and I genuinely believe that getting it cost Europe the match.

What do you choose:

A 10-6 lead with the whole team feeling low, embarrassed, emotional, sheepish and lacking in concentration on the job in hand with some reputations in tatters and 12 Americans fired up screaming for blood.
or
A 9.5 - 6.5 lead with the whole team buoyant, focussed, together against an American team taking a beating and struggling to get their games together?

indeed it was monumentally poor leadership from koch. there are enough vice captains and general hangers on these days. surely someone should have had the sense to realise the incident was likely to damage european chances