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vegasdreams
06 Oct 14 15:53
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Just basics for now, haven't started yet, but thought i'd get it started as i do like one player for this GEORGE COETZEE @ 40/1 with a few of the bookies is a fine price for a guy showing signs of form going onto a track he likes and has two top tens out of 2.

OCEÅNICO VICTORIA GC

7209 par 71

arnold palmer design

very forgiving your looking for putting 1st and foremost this week, little concern for accuracy

Flat open course so would suggest could be difficult if wind up

It has 4 lakes which come into play on 7 holes

Day or two b4 my others go up, but dont suppoose it matters with PGA back on....
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Report vegasdreams October 11, 2014 2:02 PM BST
only positive i think is - and i'm not 100% have not checked but sure one round last week he had a right meltdown with his putting! still not overly confident like lol.
Report frames October 11, 2014 2:02 PM BST
3-0pm re-start.
Report vegasdreams October 11, 2014 2:09 PM BST
was last week please a repeat would be nice - 1st round 68, 2nd 68, 3rd 68 final round 75
Report vegasdreams October 11, 2014 4:32 PM BST
I have not bet on this but just noticed they have Disqualified - OLAZÁBAL, José María

Would this mean any hole in one bets if he was the only to do it would all be losers?
Report vegasdreams October 11, 2014 5:48 PM BST
Contemplating laying Levy HEAVY! just been reading a few stats i put together, looks pretty grim to be honest!

HE HAS SHOT ROUNDS IN THE 60S (60-69) 36 TIMES NOT INCLUDING ROUND 4

Out of them 34 rounds HE HAS SHOT A BETTER ROUND THE ONE AFTER IT - 3 TIMES!!!!

THIS TIME WITH ALL 4 ROUNDS INCLUDED HE HAS SHOT 60-69 - 49 TIMES -- IN 39 OF THEM HE FOLLOWED IT WITH A ROUND OF 70+

Iv'e not dcided weather i'm laying him yet - But thier horrible -- right??
Report vegasdreams October 11, 2014 6:04 PM BST
colst by the way, well i stopped at 25 times in the rounds after one in the 60s
Report NorwichRob October 11, 2014 8:22 PM BST
Reckon he'll shoot 70 so working punts from there, the golfing gods are rarely that generous per tourney, could be a lay..
Report bannahan October 12, 2014 10:23 AM BST
Levy has taken 10 less putts than Colsearts Shocked
Report callitasucit October 12, 2014 11:48 AM BST
No scoreborad movements for awhile....is it suspended again??
Report donny osmond October 12, 2014 11:52 AM BST
scorers have to eat !
Report callitasucit October 12, 2014 11:56 AM BST
Ha!
Report frames October 12, 2014 11:58 AM BST
Quieter on here these days so they have to stay off longer.
Report frames October 12, 2014 12:07 PM BST
Many moons ago they would give us the "we are experiencing technical difficulties" message.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 1:02 PM BST
Good luck whoever your on today, just hope a few can get into it for the excitment factor, have a green book albeit levy wins me nothing, everyone else between 1 and 500. taking that 2/1 i did not wanna do ended up being my only saving grace lol.

So all in all i just want Levy to fall apart, which i don't think is out of the question, oh and have just had a little on wattel so i have a "jackpot" man -  only £600 but have to have someone winning more, used up all my main pick colsaerts money creating a workable book!
Report frames October 12, 2014 1:33 PM BST
Why start late off one tee when this happens ?
Report par October 12, 2014 1:34 PM BST
lol
Report par October 12, 2014 1:34 PM BST
abandon perhaps ?
Report par October 12, 2014 1:35 PM BST
well 36 holer
Report frames October 12, 2014 1:39 PM BST
Spence says it would make no difference.Other than the leaders would be thru the front 9 I suppose not jamie.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 1:41 PM BST
they will play 54 holes now any which way wont they? even if finishing tomorrow?

cheers if anyone knows
Report trebor October 12, 2014 1:43 PM BST
I bet your hoping they do
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 1:43 PM BST
how did the leaders play the first? both had a birdie putt? if so either miss one they shoulda got?
cheers
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 1:44 PM BST
lol just a bit mate!!
Report Kelly October 12, 2014 1:45 PM BST
Any spectators( paying) who have braved the ups and downs of this tournament should be given free passes for next year . Messiest event weather wise I have seen for a while , USA and all in with their penchant for thunderstorms .
Report frames October 12, 2014 1:46 PM BST
We did not see how they played it.Quite windy though ,shame they could not carry on.
Report par October 12, 2014 1:47 PM BST
Bit harsh there Frames, spoken like someone who has got stuck into a short un
Report frames October 12, 2014 1:50 PM BST
No.Would not matter anyway as all bets would be void.Thge 1.47 backer perhaps thinks he might collect if no more play.
Report par October 12, 2014 1:52 PM BST
The result would stand over 36 holes though Frames.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 1:53 PM BST
is that fact ie - all bets after end of day 2 play voided yeah?
Report frames October 12, 2014 1:54 PM BST
Yes indeed.That's no good for me ,can't win whatever but could lose less if they get 54 in.You on Colsaerts ?
Report frames October 12, 2014 1:55 PM BST
Yes vegas.Can't remember the time but made a note of my Levy loss when the market went not in play.
Report par October 12, 2014 1:57 PM BST
Colsaerts is best, Levy fine, no losers in with a chance, so ok for me for a change.

Backed Levy last week to win a few quid, pity he didn't putt like he has this week.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 2:00 PM BST
cheers got to lay the 1.47 then - go back out a touch if they play again soon imo
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:05 PM BST
Unless they driven off two and Colsaerts is in the sh1t then the prices are wrong.
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:07 PM BST
20k matched at 1.44-1.47.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 2:08 PM BST
yeah laid but back to where i was now twiterers think its over
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:11 PM BST
Players ?
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 2:16 PM BST
no just guessers to be fair
Report Lucky Sod October 12, 2014 2:19 PM BST
I bet at the end end of day 2 but if this goes to 36 holer surely my bets stand due to some played yesterday to finish 36 holes...am i right?
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:20 PM BST
Yes.
Report Lucky Sod October 12, 2014 2:23 PM BST
cheers framesExcited
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:23 PM BST
I layed Levy at 16-42 yesterday.This was after the 2nd round had finished and will be void if no more play.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 2:35 PM BST
reckon rains stopped - pics seen to say it has anyway
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:35 PM BST
Rain stopped an hour ago.Sun was shining but the course is a mess.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 2:39 PM BST
what u reckon, 3.30pm as late as possible to see an end today?
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:42 PM BST
They can play until 7.Sky were suggesting they would play tomorrow if only a few holes left.
Report frames October 12, 2014 2:45 PM BST
It would of been called off by now so there must be a small chance of 54 still.
Report the swede October 12, 2014 2:48 PM BST
think they give it a chance for monday finish
Report NorwichRob October 12, 2014 3:00 PM BST
Looks like 4 of these, including Levy, playing in the World Matchplay next week with a Weds start...may influence timing decisions..
Report big dunc October 12, 2014 3:01 PM BST
just had another band of rain, looking like a 36 hole tournament
Report droog October 12, 2014 3:14 PM BST
If it does become a 36 hole tournament, are the ew places settled on current leaderboard or leaderboard at the start of the day? I have Wattel backed ew so hoping for a payout!!
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:16 PM BST
Settled as at end of round 2.
Report big dunc October 12, 2014 3:17 PM BST
cancelled
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 3:19 PM BST
finished - abandened :((
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:19 PM BST
Ah well.
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:21 PM BST
Awful decision not to start at 8 off two tees.
Report par October 12, 2014 3:22 PM BST
inevitable, a farce from start to finish
Report NorwichRob October 12, 2014 3:22 PM BST
Chancers still lumping on Levy, bf market still open..
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:22 PM BST
Idiots!!
Report par October 12, 2014 3:23 PM BST
betting good money and clueless about rules , lol.
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:24 PM BST
Had some 990 Wattel.Good luck on collecting.
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 3:25 PM BST
round two finish saturday evening? 6pm ish??
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:25 PM BST
Still suspended on the Euro site and Sky have said feck all.
Report big dunc October 12, 2014 3:25 PM BST
the leaderboard at the start of the day droog
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:28 PM BST
They are still backing Levy  LaughLaugh
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:28 PM BST
15k at 1.03 matched so far.Free money.
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:29 PM BST
Took the lot,25k.
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:29 PM BST
Laugh
Report par October 12, 2014 3:34 PM BST
lol

I wonder how many will phone to complain they didn't get paid
Report book October 12, 2014 3:35 PM BST
36 holes completed, so levy wins
Report stewardsenquirey October 12, 2014 3:43 PM BST
Just a note to anyone getting involved in the Match play this week,it's not being played on the same course that was used twice for the European Open at the London Club,it's being played on the other course there.May or may not help anyone with their homework.
I expect it to be a real Birdie fest which I suppose you want in Match Play.
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:49 PM BST
Taking there time to settle.I reckon any bets struck after 4-40pm yesterday will be void.
Report book October 12, 2014 3:51 PM BST
it states on the market page that all bets on this market will be declared void unless 36 holes of the tournament are completed,which means that levy should be settled as the winner.
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:52 PM BST
Yes book Levy will be settled the winner!!
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:55 PM BST
When did you back him Book ?
Report frames October 12, 2014 3:56 PM BST
Sponsors only have pay half the prize fund ,any chance of me paying half please BF ?
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:58 PM BST
No chance!!
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 3:59 PM BST
I want my winnings in full Happy
Report frames October 12, 2014 4:01 PM BST
I backed him near the close of play yesterday but not enough to get out of it.I'm sure others were doing the same.
Report Lucky Sod October 12, 2014 4:04 PM BST
my page as reverted back to what is was at end of 36 holes
Report book October 12, 2014 4:04 PM BST
frames,i traded on it today only,but they want to change their market page rules as it says as long as 36 holes are completed,bets will be settled,no matter of when you backed or laid.
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 4:06 PM BST
book please read full rules which explain any bets after 2nd round void if shortened.
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 4:08 PM BST
Golf rule 11.1 I think.
Report book October 12, 2014 4:08 PM BST
yes seen that sand,but read the market rules & it says as long as 36 holes are played,no mention of what 36 holes have to be played.
Report frames October 12, 2014 4:09 PM BST
Settled.
Report sandsave October 12, 2014 4:09 PM BST
but it does say for further info see rules and regs
Report NorwichRob October 12, 2014 4:09 PM BST
Think this goes back to the basic rule of punting that if you can't win then you can't lose, therefore any bets after close of play last night are void.
Report donny osmond October 12, 2014 4:13 PM BST
pity about the rain, some decent golf played

congrats mr levy, onwards and upwards, good luck mr colsaerts,

i would have enjoyed a shoot out between the two of them
Report callitasucit October 12, 2014 4:20 PM BST
Do all frims settle on 36? Sorry if already stated above...

Backed Djerksen in 3 ball....5 clear through 12....void bet??
Report big dunc October 12, 2014 4:24 PM BST
shafted by purpledaq again, void all bets even pre tornament
Report NorwichRob October 12, 2014 4:38 PM BST
Strange that they'd want to give up all that commission..
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 5:12 PM BST

Oct 12, 2014 -- 10:24AM, big dunc wrote:


shafted by purpledaq again, void all bets even pre tornament


thats a terrible decision and chance they will pay when they know result is official imo.

Report curious-cat October 12, 2014 5:24 PM BST
11.Golf

11.1General
•Tournament bets will only be settled if the minimum number of holes stipulated in the Market Information has been completed.
•Where there is a presentation ceremony, markets will be settled on the official result of the relevant governing body at the time of the ceremony, regardless of any subsequent disqualification or amendment to the result.
•If there is no presentation ceremony, outcomes will be determined in accordance with the official result of the relevant governing body, regardless of any subsequent disqualification or amendment to the result (except if an amendment is announced within 24 hours of the initial settlement of the relevant market in order to correct an error in reporting the result).
•If a player does not start a tournament then all bets on that player will be void.
•Any player starting a tournament but withdrawing or being disqualified before the end of the tournament will be settled as a loser.
•If a tournament is shortened and Betfair settles the tournament markets then all bets matched after the last completed round will be void.
Report big dunc October 12, 2014 6:05 PM BST
All bets will be settled on the official result after the tournament regardless of subsequent amendments to the result.
15.1.2 If a tournament is shortened for any reason, all bets will be settled based on the official result, provided the minimum number of holes set out in the market Info has been completed. In this instance, bets matched after the last completed round will be void.

this is all i can find in the rules on purple, what do people make of this ?
Report trebor October 12, 2014 6:38 PM BST
Purple stipulate that 54 holes need to be played in Europe in their market rules, so bets void
Report vegasdreams October 12, 2014 8:41 PM BST
Yeah if it states it, Its void - stupid for any of the companies not following the TOURS rules.
Report the0 October 12, 2014 9:08 PM BST
anyone able to confirm when the last players completed their 2nd round? I placed a heap of bets just before 6pm Sat at which time I'm thinking their were still a few players finishing up after resumption again at around 3:30 pm.
Report frames October 12, 2014 9:22 PM BST
2nd round had certainly finished by 4-42pm and probably a minute or two earlier.
Report SamH_123 October 13, 2014 12:10 AM BST
was this the easiest scoring on tour ever?  I've never seen the top 3 at -18,-15 and -13 after 2 days
Report vegasdreams October 13, 2014 3:49 PM BST
PORTUGAL OPEN

PRE-START P/L
Outlay = 36pts
return =  32.4 - (colsts + Aguilar top ten)
p/l =  - 3.6pts

InPlay p/l
Betfair = + 20 pts
Bookies = outlay - 22pts - return - 32.4 = + 8.4pts
OVERALL = + 28.4

Again poor form beforehand Sad but seens i never had the winner, to lose only 3.6pts is a bonus, and scammed a wage all in Happy
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