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vegasdreams
08 Sep 14 17:58
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Kennemer Golf Course - 6626 yards - teensy pitch + putt to these guys

Course designer - HS Colt

style - seaside course, pretty much a links course

Short course, wind is key as it's quite exposed

quite undualating but no water hazards.

Seems from reading every man and his dog tell me Accuracy accuracy accuracy - BUT I DONT SEE IT!!

In fact stats are useless for this imo - heres a stat i just put together to show what i mean...

Since 2006 this course has been used 5 times - Heres how many of the top 10 placed ranked in the top 10 of tourney stats.
accuracy - 7 out of 50
drive distance - 2 out of 50!!
greens hit - 13 out of 50
PPG - 11 out of 50
PPR - 9 out of 50

To me this is gunna be won by one of two types...

1) course form - same names near the top pop up time after time

2) Wind players - The 1st day especially looks very windy and the guys who play it well will do well..

I have a few in mind, just going to wait a day see what the markets do -  I have a cunning plan lol :)

One person i have backed already is Marc Warren - wind wizard and stan james made the mistake of opening @ 40/1 - isn't there now!! Wink

Good Luck if u have a go at this one.
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Report sickoflayinwinners September 9, 2014 9:36 PM BST
gonzo costano fo me, moderate stakes.
Report bannahan September 10, 2014 9:12 AM BST
HAVRET
HARTO
KAKKO
FOSTER here...... GL all
Report therhino September 10, 2014 2:45 PM BST

Sep 9, 2014 -- 8:10AM, bustino wrote:


like mikko illonen..............4 time winner on tour won the irish open this tear and a top 10 at the uspga...........a good exponient of links golf and game is suited to windy courses was fancidied for the open championship this year ....price this week 55/60,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for my lrftfirld bet throwing a few bucks at max kieferr talented guy 300s fair for a miracle


Don't usually play Euro, but I like this selection, am joining you, win and top 10. Koepka too, matter of time surely, and he's also showed a liking for the links.

Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 4:11 PM BST
Where has this idea KOEPEKA likes links courses come from???

not just u rhino, u will deffo have read that but i cant find a scrap of evidence in recent years to support it - i very nearly lumped on to be honest after reading somewhere his liking for them???

c'mon rhino help me out, I'm verging on laying him for my bank due to this "mis-info"
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 4:19 PM BST
I'm playing a harry colt designed links course on Friday GrinGrinGrin

It's actually in the town i live!!! never played it and never knew lol Blush

Really looking forward to it, will be my 1st links course...
Report the muppet moans September 10, 2014 5:52 PM BST
Not Teignmouth is it?
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 6:36 PM BST
No, It looks as if it could be really good!!

just read that Donald Steel did three holes there as well, he is a "known" one aint he?

Mad i'm often looking online for a course around my area but always just swept by my own (redcar) only know now as they call it cleveland golf club, went to site and realised it's my towns lol.

http://cleveland-golf-club.com/course/
Report donny osmond September 10, 2014 6:46 PM BST
cracking course vegas, ive not been there for a few years now
Report donny osmond September 10, 2014 7:03 PM BST
kopeka is on twitter, you can ask him !
Report 1st time poster September 10, 2014 7:06 PM BST
who,s put green up, gone from 90 to 40,s with sj
Report Si-K September 10, 2014 7:52 PM BST
Madasen
Green
Illonen
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 8:36 PM BST
Well seems no change in wind, Thursday going too be windy around 13 mph upto 18 for the later starters - friday morning is looking like the only time they may get a breather...

Wind team

Paul Casey @ 25/1 can go low 1st rnd leader punt as well
Colsearts @ 100
K.Broberg @ 90
P.Lawrie @ 180
G.Maybin @ 110
B.H.An @ 400
R.Bland @ 450

and 3 1000 shots

Dantorp
Mcleary
Foos

Top 10/win bets...Good Luck All...
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 8:54 PM BST
Annoyed!! I'm meant to be done, but it is folly to miss out an in form Scotsman on a short links course so had to add Richie Ramsey @ 40
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 9:52 PM BST
I'd worked it out as well Angry

I like having a big team but was getting silly - This week i decided to just back to a level stake 15 runners - but a mixed bag of runners, i.e. This week i have - 3 below 50 - 7 upto 250 - then 5 biggie's up to a 1000, backed them to win £1000 each after stakes - cost £220.

Then sit back, watch some golf and maybe have a short priced trade if any went low....DONE...!

16 Minutes later!! i'm adding a player bringing total to £250 lol Sad
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 10:32 PM BST
sorry for all my sh!te lol but seens iv'e done level stakes, i haven't really put who i fancy so for my own interests sake i have listed em, my best bet 1st.
warren
clarke
casey
jimenez
broberg
colsearts
Mcgrane
maybin
b.h.an
paul lawrie
foos
ptr.lawrie
bland
foos
dantorp
Mcleary
Report vegasdreams September 10, 2014 11:25 PM BST
I dont do the short priced stuff and wont be doing this bet but closing in on 2/1 joost Luiten for top ten has got to be a bet imo, defending, at home, 4th last week, he's going to be around!
think win markets too skinny on him, hence aint a pick but that looks value imo.
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 9:47 AM BST
Well shaky start for me! 8 started, 4 over par, noone under par - very early obv
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:06 AM BST
disappointing, unless it's going to be on the red button, sky are showing none of this live :(
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:06 AM BST
ladies evian taking the lead
Report frames September 11, 2014 10:08 AM BST
Close the Euro down if the women come first.
Report frames September 11, 2014 10:08 AM BST
10-30am red button.
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:10 AM BST
ha ha it is on interactive :) - lol to be fair it is an official Major as far as the ladies golf go
Report frames September 11, 2014 10:23 AM BST
Bloody hell ,play suspended while Zanotti gets medical treatment.
Report frames September 11, 2014 10:26 AM BST
Hit by a ball.
Report applehunter September 11, 2014 10:26 AM BST
What happened?
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:30 AM BST
horsey lungberg and aquilar in the group behind, one of em in trouble!!
Report trebor September 11, 2014 10:30 AM BST
Will he get a signed glove?
Report therhino September 11, 2014 10:31 AM BST
nice one trebor.
Report frames September 11, 2014 10:33 AM BST
Anyone got the red button working ?
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:34 AM BST
no hasen't appeared yet
Report frames September 11, 2014 10:35 AM BST
Cheers.Probably wait until 11-10 when play is due to resume.
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:36 AM BST
wow - pic etc on this link - looks proper serious!!

http://thesandtrap.com/t/76518/klm-open-2014-discussion-thread/18
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:52 AM BST
hope he's ok - extended the delay untill 1pm now, hoping that isn't a bad sign

best to him!
Report therhino September 11, 2014 10:54 AM BST
Never heard of a pro golfer being injured and sent to hospital mid round. Doesn't sound good. Did it hit him on the temple?
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 10:58 AM BST
no idea.

on a lighter note - Rhino, u are Australian yeah? found out yesterday a lot of u have seats attached to your golf trolleys?? is this true?? and if yes why the feck haven't i heard about it before, never ever seen such a thing in the uk!!
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 11:06 AM BST
sky just said he's ok but recieving medical treatment, which sounds better :)

looks like the scorings tough but -4 and -3 proves theres birdies out there.
Report therhino September 11, 2014 11:11 AM BST
I am Aussie vegas and yes some buggies have seats. Not really common anymore, they were pretty widespread when I was a little tacker in the 80s, pretty much everyone had them then. Not sure why they're not in the UK, never really thought about it.
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 11:15 AM BST
it is strange - we are renown for our laziness!! Laugh

Have you seen what the prize is for a hole in one on the 15th???

A TRIP TO SPACE!!! they have replica shuttle  n that on the course Crazy
Report Smiley September 11, 2014 11:20 AM BST
I mean really, wtf is going on?

Zanotti in the ambulance, on his way to hospital ages ago. Yet still we restart at 12 uk time?

He must have lost a lot of blood and they are busy cleaning the playing surface.
Report Back High Lay Low September 11, 2014 11:36 AM BST
Was the four-letter F word used?
Report Back High Lay Low September 11, 2014 11:49 AM BST
Aguilar and Gonzalez also withdrawn according to the sandtrap poster
Report Back High Lay Low September 11, 2014 11:50 AM BST
Who ever is asking 120 about Aguilar may want to cancel
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 12:20 PM BST
looking at the course map and where the 16th is, cant see how it was a different hole, and wuth aquilar going with him i feel he may be responsible, must shake him up as well this sort of thing.
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 12:21 PM BST
scratth that i was looking wrong
Report Chosen® September 11, 2014 12:28 PM BST
Suspect Manassero may have called it a day, too. No updates.
Report Chosen® September 11, 2014 12:31 PM BST
Cancel that, just caught up.
Report joe39 September 11, 2014 12:31 PM BST
Purple site D a q, Lads, and Sky have refunded all losing bets Zanotti.
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 12:39 PM BST
Hmmm - i'm having a mare with my golfers, far far too many + signs
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 12:51 PM BST
it will proper punish u this course - otto was two under thru 5 now 7 over thru 12
Report donny osmond September 11, 2014 12:56 PM BST
vegas

seats were sold for trollies in the 80s over here

but anyone worth his salt had a shooting stick  on one side of bag and umbrella on the other
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 1:06 PM BST
what it is - in true lazy man style i bought an electric trolley off ebay last night - now it was well underpriced, but even so what sealed the deal was it has a little seat attached to the side!!! even lifts up to store stuff inside.

as i say never seen such a thing but..........GENIUS I TELL YOU GENIUS!!1
Report donny osmond September 11, 2014 2:04 PM BST
...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Shooting-Sticks-Bipods-/73959/i.html


dont forget to purchase a hip flask for winter too
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 2:12 PM BST
good news zanotti going to be let out of hospital soon - Alexandre Kaleka was the culprit who hit the shot
Report vegasdreams September 11, 2014 2:18 PM BST
Laugh - a wee drab to warm u up is a must Laugh
Report vegasdreams September 12, 2014 7:56 AM BST
BAH!! you bet a golfer at 1000 - suspend play with him having 2 holes left to play - he's -5 joint leader - comes out this morning to finish up - bogey bogey Cry

Anyway not overjoyed by my first day but have plenty well in the hunt so could be worse.
Report frames September 12, 2014 9:36 AM BST
Fair start for Pablo's 2nd round.
Report therhino September 12, 2014 12:27 PM BST
What sort of putting routine is that pablo? Sort urself out man.
Report bannahan September 12, 2014 3:15 PM BST
bannahan     10 Sep 14 09:12 
HAVRET
HARTO
KAKKO
FOSTER here...... GL all


.... Forgot to add JB Hansen to my list
Report frames September 12, 2014 3:20 PM BST
Luiten just hits one sailing over Lipsky's head.Expect another delay when Lipsky clouts him.
Report frames September 12, 2014 3:52 PM BST
Luiten needs a timeform squiggle next to his name.Can't chip,won't chip.
Report par September 12, 2014 4:00 PM BST
what do you call a five over on a hole then, we have triple, quadruple, but what is a five over

had Waring top English, I see he took a 9 on a par 4, Jack The Hack.
Report Ouspenski September 12, 2014 10:02 PM BST
Point 1) Quite fancy Wattel myself.
Point 2) This forum is dead these days.
Report Can't Catch Me September 13, 2014 9:09 AM BST
Quintuple bogey, par.
Report donny osmond September 13, 2014 10:24 AM BST
pentuple bogey at our club...5 over at a hole

hextuple ..6

heptuple....7

octuple......8

nontuple......9

dectuple........10




sometimes it rained and we had nothing better to discuss

quintuple is good !
Report Back High Lay Low September 13, 2014 11:06 AM BST
Joost just joined the fun with a 9.
Report frames September 13, 2014 12:26 PM BST
Quad followed by 4 birdies ,fair play.
Report bannahan September 13, 2014 12:36 PM BST
Wattel getting a drop there Crazy

You couldn't make it up!  "I'll just let it rest on the top of this whispy stuff ref" Laugh
Report Back High Lay Low September 13, 2014 12:51 PM BST
Lincicome Blush
Report frames September 13, 2014 1:13 PM BST
Quintuple coming up for the leader perhaps.
Report frames September 13, 2014 1:16 PM BST
Just a quad.
Report frames September 13, 2014 1:47 PM BST
Those fecking rabbit scrapings turned it for Wattel.
Report Tom September 13, 2014 1:58 PM BST
Amazing the fine margins at this level.
Report padlock September 14, 2014 11:24 AM BST
getting exciting this,pity its going f red button as i dont have it Angry put woman on there ffs
Report padlock September 14, 2014 11:42 AM BST
anyone got a link
tia
Report jackkat September 14, 2014 11:53 AM BST
Looks like Ramsey is ok until the final round then he just bottles it +2 today after 7 Casey will piss it from here
Report padlock September 14, 2014 11:54 AM BST
ffs europeantour.com f)cked up again
Report Back High Lay Low September 14, 2014 11:58 AM BST
how's your italian?

http://cricfree.tv/live/watch/euro_tour_golf_klm_open_/54750
Report federalski81 September 14, 2014 12:01 PM BST
What has Wattel done?
Report padlock September 14, 2014 12:06 PM BST
thx tried that but not working properly for me Crazy
Report padlock September 14, 2014 12:07 PM BST
working now,cheers
Report frames September 14, 2014 12:28 PM BST
As collapses go I must say Sullivan's has been impressive.
Report vegasdreams September 14, 2014 12:37 PM BST
Dont know like larazabel's red mist showimg yesterday would compete - 2nd rnd course record 62 - 3rd rnd 75 - on course for 64 in last lol
Report frames September 14, 2014 12:44 PM BST
Great hole the 11th.
Report vegasdreams September 14, 2014 12:54 PM BST
yeah very testing - the course is overall very nice, for a course to be 6600 yards long but only 54 out of 150 pro's get under par, it has to be a cleverly designed course!
Report donny osmond September 14, 2014 1:01 PM BST
team casey making a late run at ryder cup selection Crazy
Report jackkat September 14, 2014 1:07 PM BST
Casey having a rant at some 70 year old course marker class act NOT toss pot moaning coz he did not get another free drop boooo hooooo
Report frames September 14, 2014 1:35 PM BST
Wow.Trip to space for Sullivan.
Report sickoflayinwinners September 14, 2014 1:42 PM BST
I think we are seeing why wattle is struggling to get wins just now,doesnt seem to find  being in contention easy, no doubt this will come in time clearly talented.
Report Golfvet September 14, 2014 1:51 PM BST
Wattel  fooking awful today,like a rabbit in the headlights,seemed to play to defensive for me.one or two may fall in his lap but he is one to be very cautious of
Report limited ability September 14, 2014 2:04 PM BST
Wattel - Clearly has to be placed in the brown trouser on Sunday category.

Everything about his game today has been negative.

Once bitten twice shy......
Report jackkat September 14, 2014 2:10 PM BST
Casey about to bottle it on the 16th miles right of the tee then miles left with the 2nd but got a lucky of luckiest bounces to the centre of the green out of thick rough very lucky
Report jaytay2 September 14, 2014 2:12 PM BST
Sooner casey wins than that cheatin **** Dyson
Report jackkat September 14, 2014 2:13 PM BST
Cheatin Dyson ?
Report PerfectionistBollox September 14, 2014 2:15 PM BST
Any fresh stream? The one listed above has switched to soccer
Report frames September 14, 2014 2:18 PM BST
Convicted peckler.
Report boring_bastrd September 14, 2014 2:20 PM BST
http://stvstreams.com/streams/stvflash5.html
Report PerfectionistBollox September 14, 2014 2:22 PM BST
cheers bore
Report trebor September 14, 2014 2:46 PM BST
Seems a nice guy that Richie Ramsay, he's always the first to congratulate the winner!
Report vegasdreams September 14, 2014 4:42 PM BST
Well got the winner keep the good run of form going :) my picks generally were poor to be fair, but casey was a main bet/choice so have too see it as possitive overall.
Had a bit of ramsey top ten, and joost who i did not back but i suppose advised was a great price for top ten came good as well. Happy

c u next week lol.
Report taximan September 15, 2014 11:43 AM BST
Typical frenchie   Wattel got no bottle
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