BMW Championship

Team Rhino has been launched with Rose, Sergio and Haas. Rose and Sergio both nice prices on here and had the week rest instead of a 3 day turnaround.

very little to go on, on the face of it course looks quite tame to me but the only even semi relevent form was the lpga us open from 2005 - and that was won by a +3 score, heres the basic stats from the top 3 -

name	pos	r1	r2	r3	r4	tot	score	fairways hit/rnk	distance/rnk	greens hit/rnk	putts avge/tot/rnk
Birdie Kim	1	74	72	69	72	287	+3	37 - T-51	247.5 - 46	43 - T-9	28.8/115/T-6
Morgan Pressel	T-2	71	73	70	75	289	+5	42 - T-26	256.4 - 22	39 - T-32	27.8/111/T-1
Brittany Lang	T-2	69	77	72	71	289	+5	43 - T-19	257.9 - 17	51 - 1	31.8/127/T-58

I would say that is the members yardage vegas.

maybe - same thing the 18th - par 5 on cherry website, par 4 on the bmw - the course is actually a par 72 - but looks like they are gunna play it as a par 70.

deffo - the par 70 - course as in ski's link - hole averages from 2012 us amateur

1	483	4	4.478	5
2	184	3	3.340	10
3	451	4	4.506	4
4	341	4	4.045	17
5	493	4	4.471	6
6	311	4	3.965	18
7	201	3	3.308	11
8	371	4	4.163	15
9	503	4	4.696	2
OUT	3338	34	36.9
10	429	4	4.362	9
11	449	4	4.519	3
12	605	5	5.292	12
13	446	4	4.404	7
14	507	4	4.837	1
15	496	4	4.394	8
16	182	3	3.234	14
17	362	4	4.147	16
18	432	4	4.269	13
IN	3908	36	39.458
TOTAL	7246	70	76.429

fook me it's like deal or no deal take yer pick 70 - 71 or 72

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Heres the real averages from 2012 us amateur

1..406..4..4.318..10
2..414..4..4.238..12
3..327..4..4.048..16
4..443..4..4.386..7
5..549..5..4.952..17
6..165..3..3.119..14
7..424..4..4.058..15
8..263..3..3.540..2
9..488..4..4.392..6
OUT..3479..35..37.051       
10..453..4..4.170..13
11..595..5..4.881..18
12..225..3..3.479..4
13..425..4..4.360..8
14..517..4..4.405..5
15..243..3..3.524..3
16..440..4..4.248..11
17..546..5..5.325..9
18..480..4..4.743..1
IN..3924..36..39.135   
TOTAL..7403..71..76.186

Doesn't indicate it there but i get the feeling this one's gunna be for the blasters - set up for rory and co

Hopefully the commentators don't forget to inform viewers every five minutes that the ball travels further at high altitude.

Course information:

1)The rolling terrain and meandering creek help in making this a true test of golf.
2)The back nine is Cherry Hills’ strength on the merits of the 12th, 14th, 16th, 17th, and 18th holes which features several hazards and classic shapes.
3)Cherry Hills is a classicly designed parkland course
4)Water comes in play on nine holes, but drastically on only five holes, 12, 14, 16, 17 and 18.
5)The hardest hole could be the 18th, which for the members plays as a par 5, but for this week will be a 477 yard par 4.  Water comes in play in which you have to drive over it, and you can cut off as much as you chose with the lake down the left-hand side.
6)Four of the par 4s plays over 475 yards as distance is reduced on this course that sits at over 5,000 feet in elevation.
7)Tough fairways to hit and once you do the greens only average 4,700 square feet making them very hard to hit
8)There is 82 bunkers, but they are more for decoration than making the course tougher to play.
9)The opening hole is best-known for being the par four that Arnold Palmer drove on the final day of the 1960 U.S. Open, which lead to a birdie and eventually the victory.
10)Only 10% of the field has seen the course,Phil Mickelson won the 1990 Amateur on it. looking at the 2012 Amateur, Jordan Spieth was the only player to make it to match play and he lost his round of 64 match, Cameron Tringale played the 2009 Palmer Cup at Cherry Hills.

WHATS NEEDED

1)Tight fairways and small greens make this a scramblers delight.  Looking at the scrambling stats in the top-ten - (Jim Furyk 1st, Kevin Na 2nd, Sergio Garcia 4th, Brendon Todd 6th, Jason Day 8th, Chris Kirk 9th, and Jordan Spieth 10th.
2)So with hard greens to hit, does this favor a Rory McIlroy?  Yes, in looking at the Greens hit stat for 2014 he is 6th which favors him in hitting lots of greens, and Sergio Garcia 10th they could fight it out again this week.
3)Another important element in small greens, making putts in the 5 to 15 foot range, on new courses and ones with small greens great putters always do well.
4)In the summer they always seem to get late afternoon thunderstorms everyday, This week is more of the same, long range forecast is for scattered Thunderstorms Friday through Sunday.

c'mon 1st poster get it right!! - it's 70s aswell as the 71s and 72s

Fancy Spieth this for this, currently 50 on here....................

No Rory, Rhino???

Who I could trade vegas. I have no idea who will win this week given we have no clue about the course. Picking a winner is golf ain't easy at the best of times. Show me a guy who thought Kirk would win last week from Henley, Horschel and Ogilvy and I'll show you a liar, or an extremely lucky fool.

Trade as many as you can and see where the chips fall.

For starters.

Adam Scott
Jason Day
Justin Rose
Henrik Stenson    
Matt Kuchar (amazing value @ 40, had to check if he was injured or withdrawn before lumping on)
Jordan Spieth    
Keegan Bradley    
Webb Simpson    
Bill Haas    
Gary Woodland
Russell Henley
Steven Bowditch

I think nothing beyond the fact they will shorten pre off vegas. Nothing else matters pre off.

see i'm too greedy for the trading game - iv'e put all mine back in in other tourney but it's at a minimum of half the odds!!

Thought it starts now then realised there is a 7 hours gap between UK and USA....gonna be a long evening, finishing around 12 30 am.

If I've done the figures right, Ski, your example means you've had a fiver at evens, so if you've traded all the others, it's still a winner.  Have to be honest though, my brain is not really on the golf, hospital appointment for more surgery on the arteries brought forward because of a kidney abnormality.  Not impressed with life too much today.

Don't know what to do with Rose and Sergio.  Seem a bit short to me. particularly Rose.  Good luck with yours.