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therhino
03 Mar 14 10:03
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The Blue Monster has had a makeover from last year. Interesting to read the thoughts of Hanse who was in charge. Surely whatever he did, it doesn't justify $400 USD for a round there Shocked

Trump is off his nut, I wonder if he actually wants people to play it.

http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/cadillac-championship/news/2014/02/24/q-a--doral-architect-gil-hanse.html

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By:
xmoneyx
When: 03 Mar 14 10:09
any wind farms about?
By:
padlock
When: 03 Mar 14 10:12
he recently bought a links near kerry in ireland also Sad
however it is $500 to play peeble beach
By:
therhino
When: 03 Mar 14 10:40
$500 to play Pebble is fine. There is only one Pebble.

There is an endless amount of Florida resort courses. $400 US for Doral is nuts. For example, you can play the Magnolia course at Disney for under $100. Copperhead is about $240. Bay Hill roughly the same I think. Florida is a rip off really but the Trump has gone a little silly.

Glad I live in Melbourne. The Dunes is world class, and I play it for about 50 bucks CoolLove
By:
xmoneyx
When: 03 Mar 14 10:54
trump must of phoned tiger,make sure your alright for doralExcited
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Mar 14 13:48
Fancy tigs for Doral there's 2 ton @17s if someone wants to lay me it would be appreciated
By:
the muppet moans
When: 03 Mar 14 15:22
Are you his physiotherapist Bob?
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Mar 14 16:01
Rubbed him down this  morning back will be a ok for thursdayCool
By:
xmoneyx
When: 03 Mar 14 16:12
D--oral
By:
bobweenit
When: 03 Mar 14 18:07
Leave that stuff 4 Lindsay I'm just a masseuse
By:
sheppy123
When: 03 Mar 14 19:51
I'm assuming by his odds that Russell Henley might not be playing in this, is this correct???
By:
Knight Rider
When: 03 Mar 14 19:54
Pretty sure he'll be playing.  His odds reflect the fact it is a top class field.
By:
sheppy123
When: 03 Mar 14 20:08
Thanks Knight Rider. I noticed he's not on DAQ's list & he's on the Puerto Rico list. I'm confused!Crazy
By:
sheppy123
When: 03 Mar 14 20:08
Thanks Knight Rider. I noticed he's not on DAQ's list & he's on the Puerto Rico list. I'm confused!Crazy
By:
Knight Rider
When: 03 Mar 14 20:24
He was going to play Puerto Rico but by winning the Honda Classic he got into the WGC field.  Just can't see any reason he wouldn't play unless he picks up an injury, these WGC events are highly lucrative.
By:
sheppy123
When: 03 Mar 14 20:37
Haha Betfair must've read my message cos a few minutes later Puerto Rico got suspended and now he's not on there. Like you say, it's a class event, too good to miss. I've lost a lot of money on here by jumping in without thinking, so I'm trying to learn to be more investigative and question the odds more. I almost backed Brian Gay in the Honda!

Thanks for the help.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Mar 14 20:40
henley moved into world top 50

he will be in line for a host of invites if he maintains that

loads of ranking points in wgc events will help
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 03 Mar 14 21:23
Donny is correct his win got him in as he is in the world top 50.

Had he not won the play off he wouldn't have been eligible and would have played Puerto Rico.

As Donny says there are shedloads of ranking points on offer next week plus a much bigger purse and smaller field. No one would go to Puerto Rico given the choice.
By:
Si-K
When: 03 Mar 14 21:46
Snedeker a big price.. worth a bet?
By:
Kjeldsen
When: 03 Mar 14 22:04
Taken from my blog. Good luck everyone HappyHappy


The world’s best players gather in Miami this week to play the famous “Blue Monster” course of Doral. The course has underwent substantial changes since last year’s renewal courtesy of Donald Trump’s bottomless pockets so previous course form may not be a deciding factor. Instead we will look for outstanding ballstrikers who have shown an aptitude for tough courses. Some length off the tee certainly won’t hurt either. With Tiger Woods pulling out of the last event half way through Sunday’s final round and Rory once again snatching defeat from the joys of victory there is plenty of value to be had further down.

Charl Schwartzel has been playing some very solid golf recently, including a win in The Alfred Dunhill Championship before Christmas and a 5th place finish at The Northern Trust Open three weeks ago. He has been a runner-up and 4th place finisher here at Doral in the past four years so the 40/1 on offer with Stan James looks like great each way value.

Graham Delaet has been near the top of most golf fans “next player to break his PGA Tour duck” List for several months now and this could be the week. He was fast out of the blocks this season with a pair of runners up finishes in The Farmers Insurance Open and Waste Management Phoenix Open and ranks 5th in Driving Distance and the all important Greens In Regulation Stat. Although making his debut at Doral the aforementioned course changes have levelled the playing field and I am more than happy to take the 50/1 generally available.

Ryan Moore has been in sensational form over the past six months with a win and three Top  10s in his last eight starts. He ranks 2nd in Greens In Regulation and comes here fresh after a short break following the WGC-Accenture Matchplay. He finished 22nd here on his debut in 2011 but has every chance of finishing much higher this time around. The 70/1 on offer with Paddy Power looks a big price.

The ultra-consistent Bill Haas has made all eight cuts this season and looks like only one good putting week away from adding to his five PGA Tour titles. He was 6th at Doral in 2010 and the massive 80/1 with **** could well be excellent value.


WGC Cadillac

C Schwartzel 40/1 (Stan James)
G Delaet 50/1 (B365)
R Moore 70/1 (Paddy Power)
B Haas 80/1 (****)


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By:
therhino
When: 04 Mar 14 10:08
Love WGC events. Major prices, with less than half the field Love DJ 22s, Mickelson 32s, Rose 46s, Matsuyama 100s, Snedeker 130/140s, Haas 100s and Stadler 270s. Have dumped DJ at 19s, looking to dump the rest and add others now.
By:
miss anomaly
When: 04 Mar 14 10:39
I know most media is focused on Tiger's back, but does anyone know how Oosty's back is feeling? Hopefully the week off since the Match Play has done him the world of good.
By:
therhino
When: 04 Mar 14 11:02
Pretty sure he is a week to week proposition Miss. Definitely not 100%.

"If I can commit myself to hit the shot it's not that bad, but I can't commit. My body is restricting me to go through the shot."

That quote was last week.
By:
angeldust
When: 04 Mar 14 11:27
Dustin Johnson. His course form here is as follows;
2013 Tied 12th
2012 Tied 35th
2011 2nd
So although the course has been altered he has played well here before, and probably should of won in 2011 when he lost to Nick Watney.
His current form however is pretty ***** good, 2nd in his last two strokeplay starts and a win in the last strokeplay WGC in China back in November.
But what attracts me most about Dustins game is his ability to hit both high and low. Dustin is a great wind player and there is some wind forecast this week at Doral, so having the ability to hit low and play in the wind gives him a decent advantage over the field. He also can hit the ball ridiculously high with his long irons and with the changes to the course and water coming into play on alot of holes then being able to hit high long irons that stop fast gives him again a huge advantage over the shorter lower ball hitters.
I think he's due another win and his confidence couldn't be higher coming off two 2nd place finishes. He is also 1st in GIR for the season, 1st in Birdie Average, 15th in Total Driving, 17th in Strokes Gained putting, and 1st in All Around Ranking so nobody has better stats than Dustin on tour this season.
£600 each way at 18/1 (each way terms 1/4 odds top 5)

Gary Woodland. Similar to Johnson in the fact that he is an extremely long ball striker and can play the long irons high over the water, and will be able to reach the par 5's with ease. His current form is good with a 2nd, Tied 10th and Tied 13th in his last 5 strokeplay starts. Tied 29th in his only start in the WGC at Doral in 2012, so course form is nothing to get excited about but as said before this course has been completely revamped. 14th in GIR for the season and 1st in Total Driving - so not only he he hitting it long he also is straight so far this year, 6th in Birdie Average but 156th in Strokes Gained putting - but if he can sort out his putting this week he will make **** loads of birdies. I feel he is ready to win a big event and hopefully it will be this week.
£200 each way at 80/1 (each way terms 1/4 odds top 5)

Jin Jeong. Now this is a risky one but that is reflected in his price. He won his first biggish event in October 2013 in Perth which has given him his European Tour Exemption until 2015. Jin is a young up and coming player from South Korea, he is only 24 years old but has burst onto the european tour nicely. He had played most of his golf on the Australasian Tour until he won in October, now he will become a regular in the big events in my opinion. He finished Tied 2nd in his last start down in South Africa, so his game is in good shape. The main reason I want to back him is I love his swing and putting stroke, his swing is lovely to watch and is so natural and has a beautiful rhythm, and his putting stroke is just filthy, so good! With such a nice technique I think he has the game for the big time and the big pressure of the big events, its probably too early but at the price had to take a chance on this one.
I couldn't believe it when I saw his price so was quite excited especially when they accepted my large bet on him.
The downsides and why he is such a long price is this will be a major step up in class for him but I can't see why not if he had the week of his life he could get a top 5, he certainly could post a first round, why not...
He came Tied 18th in the last strokeplay WGC in China, and came 14th in the Open in 2010 as an amateur, also played in the masters in 2011 but missed the cut, so he has played in 3 big events so far.
Outright - £100 each way at 500/1 (each way terms 1/4 odds top 5)
First Round Leader - £100 each way at 250/1 (each way terms 1/4 odds top 5)
By:
miss anomaly
When: 04 Mar 14 14:11
Was impressed with Jeong at Joburg. While everyone else was struggling on Sunday's back nine he was hitting approach after approach to around 10-15 feet. The downside was he didn't make many of those putts, and thus didn't pressure Coetzee, but to play well like that under pressure is a good sign.

I don't have the money or confidence you do angel, but you're right, on his best day he could get himself into the mix. Good luck.

Thanks for the Oosty quote rhino Happy
By:
miss anomaly
When: 04 Mar 14 14:15
Alistair Presnell once shot a final round 64 to finish T6 at a WGC event, and if he can do it I'm sure Jeong can too.
By:
sheppy123
When: 04 Mar 14 16:47
Is it me, or is Snedeker's price way bigger than it usually is??? I'm guessing that a year ago you'd have been lucky to get on him @ 50.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 04 Mar 14 18:37
Sneedkers price is reflecting his poor form this year
By:
the muppet moans
When: 05 Mar 14 11:42
This week we see a completely revamped Blue Monster at Doral - the big question is will old course form hold up? I will take the chance that it won't and that it may well prove to be a more level playing field as regards course form - in fact it may even favour those who haven't played before as they won't have preconditioned attitudes as to how to play certain holes. There are a few other un-knowns - mainly around Tiger - if fit and well his price is massive, also I do think if Els' performance at the matchplay is a sign then his price of 180 on Betfair is simply too big. I have put up two bets on players who know how to win and offer some value in a top class field.
Patrick Reed has now won twice on tour in his last twelve PGA tour events and I don't think they will be his last. What I don't understand is why he is such a big price compared to other players who are yet to even win on tour - the 160 he reached on Betfair this morning is utterly insane compared to lets say a price of 60 for Delaet. I am not convinced last weeks PGA National course would be the ideal test for him but his 24th place finish was a vast improvement on last years 58th. I am always prepared to take a chance on a known winner at this price even when he has no course form 0.5 ew 90/1
Kevin Streelman has recently become known as one of the happiest golfers on tour - the long term journeyman finally won on tour last year and then at the end of December he became a Dad against quite a lot of odds by all accounts. As a new father he hasn't played as much as maybe he would have done in the past but he has the peace of mind of a long term exemption on tour. His win last year came in Florida and he also backed that up with a 2nd in the Players Championship so he is obviously very happy on the Bermuda greens he will encounter this week 0.2 ew 150/1
By:
therhino
When: 05 Mar 14 12:11
Agree about Els Muppet. Can't believe he was 200. Nuts. On at 180 with you.
By:
sheppy123
When: 05 Mar 14 12:33
It's great to know that I'm in good company cos I'm on Els @ 180, and Patrick Reed @ 170. Well, I layed Reed off @ 150 which is why I end up winning peanuts when somebody wins!Laugh
By:
miss anomaly
When: 05 Mar 14 13:35
With Oosty iffy I've had a speculative punt on Kaymer. He's not in the kind of form we used to expect from him, but he has done well here in the past (3rd in 2010) so there is at least a small reason to be optimistic. At 250-ish I couldn't say no.

Also had a fiver on Fichardt, more in the hopes of an easy trade than an expectation he'll win. He's in very good form, and while there's a big step up in class here the 700+ on offer lured me in.

No mention of G-Mac on here this week - I take it no-one fancies him?
By:
dave1357
When: 05 Mar 14 13:44
I've had a tiny bit on G-mac but main bet is Mahan
By:
Chad Collins number wan
When: 05 Mar 14 13:47
Young Dubuisson struck me as a likely fit for this course given his length off the tee and good performances over the last wee while.  Strokeplay v different to matchplay but felt disadvantage of him being a newbie to the course was negated by the changes, making it new-ish for everyone.  66-1 fair EW value.
By:
dessys
When: 05 Mar 14 15:34
Surprised I am the first to offer up Bradley @ 30's.....

Add Horschell at 110's because I do like these young Americans winning multiple times in quick sucession after getting their first win (when I say quick succession I mean in about 12 months) and finally add Coetzee e/w 125's because I am convinced he is going to burst onto the seen with a big one like South African players have before him.
By:
Merlin7
When: 05 Mar 14 16:20
Best Bet for me this week Kevin Stadler 150/1 EW,big price for a recent winner on a course likely to suit.

Chris Kirk 140 is another player overpriced imo.
By:
sheppy123
When: 05 Mar 14 16:32
I know Jimenez is getting on a bit, but surely he's got more chance than his odds suggest???
By:
miss anomaly
When: 05 Mar 14 17:01
As a back to lay Jimenez seems a decent candidate. If you're not looking to trade I'd stick to the top-5 or top-10 markets myself. I could picture him getting in the mix, but winning, against this field? Not so much.
By:
sheppy123
When: 05 Mar 14 17:31
Thanks miss anomaly. Yes it's all about trading for me. I should turn my computer off for 4 days and when I find out who's won on Sunday night, I might win big, instead of messing about covering everybody and coming away with about a tenner like I did in the Honda!
By:
cob316
When: 05 Mar 14 18:10
Lads, anyone know why Matsuyama withdrew last week?

Is this tourney on shot tracker, I like following on that not for betting obv but just better than waiting for a poxy leaderboard to change.

I Want to back everyone and I nearly have, got some decent prices too.

English @ 40
Mahan @ 55
Haas @ 100
Moore @ 85
Fowler @ 75
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