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My understanding is Woods is now fit but rusty due to the fact he hasn't played in months. Given he has nearly two months to the ryder cup then I would expect him to be significantly improved.
Phil has had a poor year and may be on he downward slide but if you are asking me who would be better in the friday fourball him or Ryan Moore, Brandt Sneedeker or Brendan Todd then it is Phil all day for me. If over the next five weeks two guys on the outside looking in have a sensational run of form then that would change the dynamic but at the moment Tiger and Phil would be getting two wildcards with Keegan Bradley getting the third for me. |
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To each their own. Good luck this week mighty.
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there was a suggestion at the open that tiger was going to the range
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Dustin Johnson out
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that means reeds an automatic pick at the moment then - have the players forgiven him for his claims yet?
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that was bollox wasn't it?
all reed obviously meant was that if he plays to his best ability he is a top 5 golfer in the world. every self respecting golfer should think that. he wasn't saying the rankings are all wrong or that anyone in the current top five are not worthy and should be immediately replaced by HIM. those are things insinuated by the hive mind trying to bring back a person into 'line' in order to make him look like he said something he shouldn't have. this suppresses individuality as it sets a precedent for what can be said in the future if you want to 'not look bad' and be part of the group. he was too sure of himself (publicly that is). people don't like that as it breaks from the hive mind and displays too much individuality and others are reminded of their own insecurities. why else would people try to bring down a golfer thinking the right things? think about it. i reckon there is no forgiving to be done. its media PC spin that made a non story a story and i believe the players know this. however, if the players buy into the PC BS then maybe in their mind he has said something that needs forgiving. i honestly cant see this to be the case even though it may well be... |
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oh agree - but sadly even superstar golfers are influenced by the media - did nowt wrong other than be a little over excited about just winning!!
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Good week for McDowell up to 8th Donald dropping out. Only 0.7 separates Donaldson and Donald 1. McIlroy 2. Garcia 3. Stenson 4. Rose 5. Kaymer 6. Bjorn 7. Dubuisson 8. McDowell 9. Donaldson Wildcard Territory (3 picks) Donald, Poulter, Gallacher, Fdez Castano, Larrazabal, Luiten, Jiminez, F.Molinari,Hanson, Westwood, Colsaerts, Blixt, Casey, Cabrera Bello, USA Last week to qualify for the Yanks with double points on offer. Good week for Reed. With Johnson now out 10th will get a spot on the team. The last three spots are still up for grabs. 1. Watson 2. Furyk 3. Walker 4. Fowler 5. D. Johnson 6. Kuchar 7. Spieth 8. Reed 9. Dufner 10. Z Johnson Wildcard territory (3 picks) Mickleson, English, Moore, Kirk, Stadler, Woodland, Snedeker, Horshel, Woods, Bradley, Mahan, Stricker, Watney, Henley, Every, Simpson, Todd |
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Poor old Tom must be feeling somewhat muddled...
No Dustin, Tiger playing like a dog, Dufner, and Kuchar withdrawing this week with injuries... Cue an American win, I guess. |
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I'll give ya Mickelson now mighty. No question. I think the captains need to get together and ensure Sunday singles features McIlroy v Fowler or McIlroy v Mickelson. Or, even better, in a Ryder Cup first, McIlroy vs Mickelson AND Fowler. I'm an innovator you see
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bit mixed for tom I would think, may have lost one, but has just gained phil back (thank fook, what a guy, I may regret saying this but eclipses even seve in the entertainment stakes, simply spectacular viewing ) I'm starting to think he misses these greens on purpose just to have some fun with the wedges!
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Mickelson in, Dufner out (but still likely to get a pick fitness-depending since he was only a few dollars short)
Keegan Bradley pretty likely I would have thought with final pick Fedex Cup dependent ? |
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Bubba earned a Timeform squiggle last 4 days . Looked like he packed it for whatever reason . Considering he is officially the No 1 on points list it might be a source of worry for Tom .
USA 9 so far have a very solid look , but Kuchar's back must be a worry . Tom's 3 will be very interesting , what does he do about Tiger , agree Bradley would be in my team , but who else ? Paul is going to have an easier time picking his 3 extra , given the variety of seasoned Ryder cuppers not in his 9 currently . Westwood probably deserves to be in the 12 , but other 2 might be trickier call . |
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surprised stricker isn't more of a automatic one of the three in people's eyes, as i say that ,has he already been picked, vice captain or summat? is that right or am i thinking about something else?
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ahh has been named vice, but thats nowt to do with being a pick, minds blank, do vice captains commonly not play? or is it just different everytime?
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Stricker is indeed a vice captain. Watson hinted that he would need a new vice captain if Stricker won the PGA the implication being he couldn't do both. Plus he's still struggling with injuries resulting in his worst season for ages and had a total mare in the last Ryder Cup. So pretty unlikely you'd think
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ahh they just simply cant do both - ty ballistic
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Bradley will get a pick, I'd have thought a nailed on partner for Phil. Not much been mentioned of him since he's in 25th place but I reckon Mahan would be a good pick, experienced and a good match player. T15 and T7 in his last two starts. Don't think Dufner will be fit so next on the list would be Moore, who probably deserves a pick after a very good season.
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donaldson and McDowell swap places 1. McIlroy 2. Garcia 3. Stenson 4. Rose 5. Kaymer 6. Dubuisson 7. Bjorn 8. Donaldson 9. McDowell Wildcard Territory (3 picks) Donald, Poulter, Gallacher, Fdez Castano, Larrazabal, Luiten, Jiminez, F.Molinari,Hanson, Westwood, Colsaerts, Blixt, Casey, Cabrera Bello, USA Qualification finished three hoping for a wild card. 1. Watson 2. Fowler 3. Furyk 4. Walker 5. Mickleson 6. Kuchar 7. Spieth 8. Reed 9. Johnson Wildcard territory (3 picks) Dufner, English, Moore, Kirk, Stadler, Woodland, Snedeker, Horshel, Woods, Bradley, Mahan, Stricker, Watney, Henley, Every, Simpson, Todd |
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Bradley looks likely for a wildcard spot the other two are up for grabs
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Made in Denmark comms just said Tiger has officially withdrawn. Has been advised to rest the back.
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wonder if he'd consider taking vice from stricker, and stricker into team?
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Dont think Tom would want Tiger aboard in an administrative capacity . Tiger has bitten the bullet and made it easier for Tom , fair play to Tiger . If Tom had not picked Tiger there would have been question marks throughout the tournament particularly if things were going badly for the USA .
Tigers withdrawal as an option probably makes the USA team stronger , strange as it might seem . The others may feel they have to up their game . The USA have a lot of very good players , but because life is easy peasy once you get in the top 50 , they dont really have to bust a gut to maintain the high standard of cosy life they enjoy . No hungry fighters generally among them . Ony 2 went to Gleneagles of the 20 invited by Tom to "see the place" last month , Furyk and Bradley , says it all . And most of the other 18 were already in UK for the Open . Europe are no value for the Ryder Cup , if they were evens you would be lumping on at this stage . It still will be a great occasion , always is , and Gleneagles is a brilliant place . Just enjoy the occasion ! |
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wow, that really poor the 2 from 20! i would be proper seething if i were tom - really thought they'd be keener than that..
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Timing wasn't great, but surprised only two bothered. Shrewd from Keegan, though, elevates him from a probable pick to a cert.
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yeah, i like keegan, touches on what kelly was just saying - u can see the passion in his play from the very first shot, would love to see more keegans in the game.
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Yeah, seems to have a good attitude, just needs to sort out that bonkers pre-shot routine.
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Webb Simpson playing well at the Wyndham. More of this and he would warrant a pick one would think.
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no change to the european team. This week is the last the American based Europeans can get WR points so a big week for Donald, Poulter and McDowell. Donaldson and Gallacher playing in Europe this week.
Wasn't a great week for US wildcard hopefuls Sneedeker, Simpson and Watney all showed glimpses of form but none got it done. |
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simpson gotta be most disappointed, this was his chance, from what i heard playing here was, to him practically his back garden.
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Sneds is starting to look good. Playing very consistently now, a breakthrough seems close.
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Europe's price looks way too skinny for me. I think the market has overreacted to the negative news coming out about a few Americans but seriously, look at their team. Add to that the wildcard pick of Bradley, making an almost unbeatable partnership with Phil (not playing them in the Sat afternoon fourball last time was a crazy decision), Mahan - a pretty decent matchplay player, and one of Moore/Snedeker would be my picks, the overall team looks really strong. The only concern I would have backing America is the slight worry that they really don't seem to care about it as much as the Europeans. Tom's invite could have been better timed but you would have thought more would make the effort, surely the fringe pick players anyway. Oh that and the fact that I could never bring myself to cheer on the Americans during any Ryder Cup. I just think it will be far from the foregone conclusion some people seem to believe it's going to be.
I must add how pleased I am that Phil has upped his game recently and will be there. The man is an absolute legend. The best moment I have ever seen on a golf course, and the most sporting gesture I think i've ever seen was watching Phil smile, clap and give Justin the thumbs up as he holed the monster putt on the 17th to go all square. If it's half as good as Medinah, it'll be awesome. P.S. I know I am alone.....but I actually love listening to Monty talk about the Ryder Cup and explain to us all how he has, almost single handedly, been responsible for our recent success!! |
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imo, were reading too much into the visit thing, over the months the impression iv'e got is, The Americans want this big style!! and are proper up for it.
Still agree europe to skinny tho, but my reason is the camaraderie the americans seem to be developing over the last 12-18 months, fowler imo playing a big part in that.. |
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its nearly time to start looking at weather forecasts, its often very nice at that time of year
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donaldson secures his spot. Last week for the europeans. Only those in Italy can add points now so the last spot is between Mcdowell and gallacher. Gallacher will need a top 2 finish to knock out Mcdowell. 1. McIlroy 2. Garcia 3. Stenson 4. Rose 5. Kaymer 6. Bjorn 7. Dubuisson 8. Donaldson 9. McDowell Wildcard Territory (3 picks) Donald, Poulter, Gallacher, Fdez Castano, Larrazabal, Luiten, Jiminez, F.Molinari,Hanson, Westwood, Colsaerts, Blixt, Casey, Cabrera Bello, USA Qualification finished three hoping for a wild card. 1. Watson 2. Fowler 3. Furyk 4. Walker 5. Mickleson 6. Kuchar 7. Spieth 8. Reed 9. Johnson Mahan and Bradley look a good bet for two of the spots the last one is still up for grabs |
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Gallacher just misses out down to the wildcards now.
Personally i think these will be the wildcards europe - gallacher, poulter, donald usa -bradley, mahan, simpson |
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Think Gallacher is nailed on , mighty . Other 2 are any 2 from 3 , viz Westwood , Poulter , Donald , possibly in that order .
Kirk might have entered the lists after todays win , he was pretty composed . Bradley and Mahan look past the post already . |
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gallacher - poulter and westy, westwood hasn't shone but at least he's got a win and recently seems to be finding it, two top 20's (?)
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great thread mighty
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Gallacher and Poulter you would think are locks. Who would the last spot be between? Donald, Westwood and Casey perhaps? I would go for Casey ahead of the other 2 based on current form and the fact he's won twice at Gleneagles.
For the yanks I think mighty is pretty much spot on, Bradley and Mahan with a coin flip between Simpson and Haas. Been impressed by Haas in the team events. |