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No hype to date on this , compared with the Masters and the US Open ( but maybe its to do with Sky ) . Plus the Olympics taking the headlines ( not always for the right reasons , nobody I know got tickets despite wide and varied applications ) .
The current odds on Betfair indicate no great rush to lay at the quoted figures , the lay percentage is 91% , so cant blame layers . Looks like few punters out there .
The odds fluctuations on the top 5 in the betting have been huge , Tiger is around 9 , having been twice that and half that , laid him myself last week at 5.7 and 5.8 . Likewise Rory has been down to 6 ( I laid him at 6.2 and 6.4 recently) , and out to mid teens . Luke is now near 20 , not sure how low he was , but current odds indicate value for him . Lee John has been the steadiest , as befits his play , but with a slightly disappointing finish to the US Open I expect his odds to lengthen .
Peter Hanson was 32 , what was that about ? Louis you couldn't give away at the moment , and Bubba something similar . Furyk was comfortable 100/1 last week with decent bookies ( good odds ) but down to less than half that on here , just wonder does everybody not use comparative odds sites ? Or maybe their accounts have been closed or restricted !
Obviusly Gmac , Padraig , Martin , Webb and Ernie have reacted downwards , possibly because of the US Open , or maybe because they have dedicated followers ( and can all play ) .
With the summer thats in it so far , likely that weather conditions plus draw factors attendant on that will play a bigger than usual part in the final scenario . Everything that has transpired so far leads me to conclude that no one is approaching the tournament with hugely defined prospects . Could it yield another Dazza type result ( but specifically not a double for him according to current odds ) ?
The current odds on Betfair indicate no great rush to lay at the quoted figures , the lay percentage is 91% , so cant blame layers . Looks like few punters out there .
The odds fluctuations on the top 5 in the betting have been huge , Tiger is around 9 , having been twice that and half that , laid him myself last week at 5.7 and 5.8 . Likewise Rory has been down to 6 ( I laid him at 6.2 and 6.4 recently) , and out to mid teens . Luke is now near 20 , not sure how low he was , but current odds indicate value for him . Lee John has been the steadiest , as befits his play , but with a slightly disappointing finish to the US Open I expect his odds to lengthen .
Peter Hanson was 32 , what was that about ? Louis you couldn't give away at the moment , and Bubba something similar . Furyk was comfortable 100/1 last week with decent bookies ( good odds ) but down to less than half that on here , just wonder does everybody not use comparative odds sites ? Or maybe their accounts have been closed or restricted !
Obviusly Gmac , Padraig , Martin , Webb and Ernie have reacted downwards , possibly because of the US Open , or maybe because they have dedicated followers ( and can all play ) .
With the summer thats in it so far , likely that weather conditions plus draw factors attendant on that will play a bigger than usual part in the final scenario . Everything that has transpired so far leads me to conclude that no one is approaching the tournament with hugely defined prospects . Could it yield another Dazza type result ( but specifically not a double for him according to current odds ) ?
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Not tempted at all Miss. Don't think the Open is the place to play yourself back into form, he needs some target golf stateside for that. If you're banking on the lottery factor too many viable options at far bigger prices to take the 24s. Mahan, Charl, Duffman etc.
Rory should know the course and the conditions a lot better than those blokes though rhino, and he's proven he has the game to win Majors. His form is a worry, but if he gets to 25+ I'll be happy enough taking a chance on him.
Charl first tourney back from injury is hard to get excited about, especially considering his middling form prior to the injury.
Mahan does have the 'lottery' or 'x' factor, and I'm a fan of him in the States. Not so much in unfamiliar conditions though.
The same goes for Duffman. I love how he's come along since his first win earlier this season but he's never made a cut at the Open and that's a major turnoff.
ZJ is in almost as good form as Dufner and is 30 points larger so that's where I'll invest this week.
Charl first tourney back from injury is hard to get excited about, especially considering his middling form prior to the injury.
Mahan does have the 'lottery' or 'x' factor, and I'm a fan of him in the States. Not so much in unfamiliar conditions though.
The same goes for Duffman. I love how he's come along since his first win earlier this season but he's never made a cut at the Open and that's a major turnoff.
ZJ is in almost as good form as Dufner and is 30 points larger so that's where I'll invest this week.
rory has been 3rd twice before in the lytham trophy
must be a few years back now but sometimes revisiting a course you like can bring it back
and it might be target golf if we get a bit of rain
2 x 68s and he may well be under 10/1, which he started at last year
must be a few years back now but sometimes revisiting a course you like can bring it back
and it might be target golf if we get a bit of rain
2 x 68s and he may well be under 10/1, which he started at last year
ladcrokes now best price about 12 of the leading 13 players in the market
i like choi for this,drives it straight if not the longest,still averaged 295y last week on the way to a good finish,has wins in the windy Hawaii,ice cool with the putter,low ball flight ideal for links,has the mentality to go around 72 holes in an open championship without blowing up which will be huge this week i think,i can see a lot of players losing their cool with double and triples and being unable to recover.most asians seem to like tough conditions on the golf course,just look at jaidee and singh lately and choi performed well at one of the opens harrington won.
K.T. Kim. Not having a good season, but at 900s round Lytham, gotta worth a few bob.
Powers also going 10s on Tiger at the moment. Not bad at all, with the 7 places.
Just back from practice ,weather was ok today , light winds and a few showers before we left.
Looks a good test ,fairway bunkers are a shot gone as always.The 6th is brutal , watched about three groups play it and no one made the green in two and that was in to a slight breeze.
Bubba took an iron off the tee on 7 which seemed strange ,next group up and Quiros smashed a driver about 380 down the middle and then failed to hit the green with two attempts.
Only saw Rory take an iron off 18 (two attemts ,first went well left),was playing on his own but don't know if that was for the full round.There were a few singles out today but most were in 4-balls.
The SA foursome looked like they had a few quid on it ,looked like it was Coetzee/Grace v Louis/Charl and the few holes I saw Louis was playing against the other two.
Sat on the range for a bit but could not follow the ball very well ,old age or cloud cover ? Would say there is room for about 30 players on the range ,by the time you add in all the hangers on and it seems like about 200 people on the range.
Good day and looking forward to Thursday.
Senden looked the best of what I saw today but when you are only watching players for 2/3 holes it's easy to get the wrong picture.Scott and Charl looked to be struggling.
Looks a good test ,fairway bunkers are a shot gone as always.The 6th is brutal , watched about three groups play it and no one made the green in two and that was in to a slight breeze.
Bubba took an iron off the tee on 7 which seemed strange ,next group up and Quiros smashed a driver about 380 down the middle and then failed to hit the green with two attempts.
Only saw Rory take an iron off 18 (two attemts ,first went well left),was playing on his own but don't know if that was for the full round.There were a few singles out today but most were in 4-balls.
The SA foursome looked like they had a few quid on it ,looked like it was Coetzee/Grace v Louis/Charl and the few holes I saw Louis was playing against the other two.
Sat on the range for a bit but could not follow the ball very well ,old age or cloud cover ? Would say there is room for about 30 players on the range ,by the time you add in all the hangers on and it seems like about 200 people on the range.
Good day and looking forward to Thursday.
Senden looked the best of what I saw today but when you are only watching players for 2/3 holes it's easy to get the wrong picture.Scott and Charl looked to be struggling.
Eh, don't usually back as many pre tourney as I have this time around but have went for:
- DJ
- Bjorn
- Noren
- Dyson
- Hanson
- Karlsson
- Siem
(Really wanted to back Harrington and Fowler but at 19/1 and 39/1 respectively it's not for me)
Some big prices in amongst them just hoping one of them can get in the mix up! After the first day is concluded I will have a better idea as to where the more serious money is going! GL all
- DJ
- Bjorn
- Noren
- Dyson
- Hanson
- Karlsson
- Siem
(Really wanted to back Harrington and Fowler but at 19/1 and 39/1 respectively it's not for me)
Some big prices in amongst them just hoping one of them can get in the mix up! After the first day is concluded I will have a better idea as to where the more serious money is going! GL all
I'm on Ben Curtis, win mkt, top 5, top 10, top usa.
One to lay Ernie Ells past his best...
G/L to all...enjoy
One to lay Ernie Ells past his best...
G/L to all...enjoy
im also on him left out first round bet and done him top previous winner of this tournament at 20s.also done michael hoey top irishman 16s only 6 man field think its decent bet.my main fancys are curis bo van pelt dustin johnson and thomas bjorn.backed quite a few outsiders
keegan bradley
geoff ogilvy
arron baddely
tim clarke
john huh
richard sterne
michael hoey and free bets on robert karlson
bill haas
keegan bradley
geoff ogilvy
arron baddely
tim clarke
john huh
richard sterne
michael hoey and free bets on robert karlson
bill haas
MAN this is one tough course...i had a look on the fly over for the course and there is even more bunkers on R.L. C. then there was in world war 1.... have a look and make your own judgements.
http://www.theopen.com/en/TheCourse.aspx
http://www.theopen.com/en/TheCourse.aspx
I think it will be quite easy tbh. All this talk of rough but it's not a long course, the fairways aren't very narrow, it's soft thanks to the rain, and there won't be much wind. Double-digit under par wins it imo.
Matt Kuchar 70
Zach Johnson 95
Nicolas Colsaerts 100
Ben Curtis 95
Martin Laird 140
Anders Hansen 190
Jamie Donaldson 200
Robert Karlsson 240
Andres Romero 230
Thorbjorn Olesen 320
Brandt Snedeker 330
Kyle Stanley 350
Ryo Ishikawa 510
Gary Woodland 530
Sang-Moon Bae 570
Gone for the big one and will back all for top tens.
Have to say Donaldson really impressed me at the Irish open with his putting.
Good luck.
Zach Johnson 95
Nicolas Colsaerts 100
Ben Curtis 95
Martin Laird 140
Anders Hansen 190
Jamie Donaldson 200
Robert Karlsson 240
Andres Romero 230
Thorbjorn Olesen 320
Brandt Snedeker 330
Kyle Stanley 350
Ryo Ishikawa 510
Gary Woodland 530
Sang-Moon Bae 570
Gone for the big one and will back all for top tens.
Have to say Donaldson really impressed me at the Irish open with his putting.
Good luck.
Very useful, frames. Thanks for that. Looking forward to more reports from the course.
Steve Stricker 80 £1,000.00 £79,000.00
Thomas Bjorn 120 £490.65 £58,387.35
Nick Watney 120 £300.00 £35,700.00
Keegan Bradley 130 £326.52 £42,121.08
Martin Laird 130 £300.00 £38,700.00
John Senden 170 £300.00 £50,700.00
Y.E. Yang 275.45 £300.00 £82,336.40
£3,017.17
Lay Backer's
Odds Backer's
Stake Payout Liability
Nick Watney 120 £300.00 £35,700.00
£300.00
Thomas Bjorn 120 £490.65 £58,387.35
Nick Watney 120 £300.00 £35,700.00
Keegan Bradley 130 £326.52 £42,121.08
Martin Laird 130 £300.00 £38,700.00
John Senden 170 £300.00 £50,700.00
Y.E. Yang 275.45 £300.00 £82,336.40
£3,017.17
Lay Backer's
Odds Backer's
Stake Payout Liability
Nick Watney 120 £300.00 £35,700.00
£300.00
Those are some big money bets. Makes my $5 and $10 look like the pittance they really are.
Dustin Johnson
Graeme McDowell
Thomas Bjorn
Paul Lawrie
Nicolas Colsaerts
Simon Dyson
Marcel Siem
Tim Clark
Michael Hoey
Brandt Snedeker
John Huh
Tempted to add Rose but 34 seems a bit short.
Kyle Stanley
Marcus Fraser
Joost Luiten
Marc Leishman
Alejandro Canizares
Jbe Kruger
Graeme McDowell
Thomas Bjorn
Paul Lawrie
Nicolas Colsaerts
Simon Dyson
Marcel Siem
Tim Clark
Michael Hoey
Brandt Snedeker
John Huh
Tempted to add Rose but 34 seems a bit short.
Kyle Stanley
Marcus Fraser
Joost Luiten
Marc Leishman
Alejandro Canizares
Jbe Kruger
Miss Anomaly,
Stay with the smaller amounts. Over the 9 years I have sports betted I have lost far more than I have won.
Stay with the smaller amounts. Over the 9 years I have sports betted I have lost far more than I have won.
Canaletto - I'm sorry that you are down over the nine years, but am impressed that you are honest about it; makes a change from some of the fantasists on here. Good luck this week.
Speaking of small amounts, I am a whopping $22 red on the field, but have been trading heartily and have the following greens: Charl +630, Siem +450, Quiros +620, Stanley +3.6K, Larrazabal +2.6K, Fraser +650, Ramsay +330, Ishikawa +1.2K, Leishman +1.8K, Havret +3.7K and rounding it out KT Kim +4.8K.
Still scouring through stats to nail down my final selections and am now looking towards the top end of the market. Getting excited now, am hoping the Claret Jug will make it's way back where it belongs - Australia
Still scouring through stats to nail down my final selections and am now looking towards the top end of the market. Getting excited now, am hoping the Claret Jug will make it's way back where it belongs - Australia
Hi Frames, just read the 2010 winning thread with great interest, it took me 2 hours but was a great insight into your strategy and a most enjoyable read, how did you get on last year & any quick thoughts for 2012 open, thanks.
Managed to win 10k which was my best result of the year,the new PC kicked in the week after so that has killed it for me regards big wins.
Not sure if the 2010 thread was a jinx but I never came close to that win after.It's probably due to there being no short priced fav to get stuck into these days.
I will play this year as usual ,try to lay well in-running but I won't be starting with a red on Tiger as it stands now.Risky ,just hope he has a fast start.
Not sure if the 2010 thread was a jinx but I never came close to that win after.It's probably due to there being no short priced fav to get stuck into these days.
I will play this year as usual ,try to lay well in-running but I won't be starting with a red on Tiger as it stands now.Risky ,just hope he has a fast start.
Yes, hard to see how anyone can make a profit if PC of 60% is deducted, cant make sense why betfair want to push away all the layers as it seems counterproductive to me. anyway, best of luck and hopefully you can achieve a nice three in a row.
My best bet this week is Bubba Watson (95).
Even though this is a short course i think the big hitters have a big advantage on so many holes.The 6th carrying the fairway bunker leaves a short iron to the green,the 11th Bubba is probably the only player that could hit this one in 2 and the 15th carrying the rise leaves a short iron to the green.
Also holes 10,13 and 16 the long hitters can get close to the green on these holes.
As for the rough players missing the fairway by 30 yards are likely to be better off than those that miss it by 5.(Seve proved that).
Expect the scoring to be a lot lower than people are predicting , -10 is my idea of the winning score.
Other bets
Nicolas Colsaerts 100
John Senden 200
Anders Hansen 170
John Daly 340
Even though this is a short course i think the big hitters have a big advantage on so many holes.The 6th carrying the fairway bunker leaves a short iron to the green,the 11th Bubba is probably the only player that could hit this one in 2 and the 15th carrying the rise leaves a short iron to the green.
Also holes 10,13 and 16 the long hitters can get close to the green on these holes.
As for the rough players missing the fairway by 30 yards are likely to be better off than those that miss it by 5.(Seve proved that).
Expect the scoring to be a lot lower than people are predicting , -10 is my idea of the winning score.
Other bets
Nicolas Colsaerts 100
John Senden 200
Anders Hansen 170
John Daly 340
also he lacks patience and will give up if things not going well.
Lee Westwood 17.5
Jim Furyk 85
Jason Dufner 55
Zach Johnson 160
Nick Watney 120
Martin Laird 130
John Senden 200
Jeev Milkha Singh 220
Rafael Cabrera-Bello 190
Carl Pettersson 310
George Coetzee 230
Richard Sterne 480
Richie Ramsay 400
Sang-Moon Bae 500
Alejandro Canizares 620
Johnson Wagner 710
heres my tiny little team. hopefully they'll all trade at odds on at somepoint and can lay em all off. :)
Jim Furyk 85
Jason Dufner 55
Zach Johnson 160
Nick Watney 120
Martin Laird 130
John Senden 200
Jeev Milkha Singh 220
Rafael Cabrera-Bello 190
Carl Pettersson 310
George Coetzee 230
Richard Sterne 480
Richie Ramsay 400
Sang-Moon Bae 500
Alejandro Canizares 620
Johnson Wagner 710
heres my tiny little team. hopefully they'll all trade at odds on at somepoint and can lay em all off. :)
Holes 3 and 12 will play the hardest this week. Nearly every other hole offers bidie chances (7th good eagle chance) so a couple of bad holes can easily be recovered.
@ Canaletto - thanks. For me punting is a way to spice up an event, it's not a way to make money. It's fun to get the occasional payout, but in my case it's a bit too occasional 
Westwood is starting to get very short. I'd much rather be on Donald at nearly 150% of the price.
In fact, like Rory at 25s (that's when I jumped on) Donald's price is fast approaching 'must back' status for me. His shorter length shouldn't be a big disadvantage here, while his accuracy will be a big advantage. Or at least that's what I'll be hoping
In fact, like Rory at 25s (that's when I jumped on) Donald's price is fast approaching 'must back' status for me. His shorter length shouldn't be a big disadvantage here, while his accuracy will be a big advantage. Or at least that's what I'll be hoping
Donald isn't accurate, just the bollux at scrambling and bunkers
Donald has admitted this week his mind set is fragile in majors, can't have him on my mind at the price
Fair enough TMMIDWI - I thought he was deliberately short, but straight off the tee.
@ dean - that's also fair enough, but I wouldn't call Westy a pillar of stability between the ears. Both guys have a ton of class though, so hopefully one or other of them breaks through at a major soon.
@ dean - that's also fair enough, but I wouldn't call Westy a pillar of stability between the ears. Both guys have a ton of class though, so hopefully one or other of them breaks through at a major soon.
Bob Karlsson out. Not being replaced. Might as well get manassero out of the market then.
Can not back Rory, Donald, etc yet......they are late starters tomorrow and will drift out further....however if the class players who starts early plays poorly then jump in and back the late starters.
Had to back the Boy wonder at 26s, with no real wind he seems a great price.
Also taken a good piece of Larrazabal at 470s seems a big price to me for somebody who has a great short game.
Started moving some money away from the outsiders into the real contenders as the weather forecast is not an issue.
Parts of 53 golfers but trading has gone well so far. Biggest greens are Havret, Larrazabal and Canizaries
Also taken a good piece of Larrazabal at 470s seems a big price to me for somebody who has a great short game.
Started moving some money away from the outsiders into the real contenders as the weather forecast is not an issue.
Parts of 53 golfers but trading has gone well so far. Biggest greens are Havret, Larrazabal and Canizaries
Apparently Karlsson's "head was not right". whatever that means. Not replaced as that takes the field down to the 156 mark.
"Have got into some bad habits in my game and routine that I need to address. Taking a few weeks off," said world number 54 Karlsson on his Twitter site.
are the 3-balls changed because of karlssons withdrawal?
seems to have been quite a move for colsearts, must be doing the biznis in practice or something.. or someone has tipped him up other than palmer/chappers
Think it's just traders moving the Colsearts price. Reckon he'll be back to 100 in a minute.
What a corking 4 days weve got to look forwards too.
Im making a little book on it, going to put player in day by day, got els ( cant him at all) poulter and kaymer losers at the mo, hopefully put about 20 players in during the 4 days and see how it falls
Im making a little book on it, going to put player in day by day, got els ( cant him at all) poulter and kaymer losers at the mo, hopefully put about 20 players in during the 4 days and see how it falls
K.T. Kim @ 1000...
If that is the real reason for Karlsson's withdrawal, then he should be ashamed of himself.
You don't get that many chances to win The Open in your career.
I'm sure that in years gone by, the likes of Young Morris, Thomson, Nicklaus, Watson, etc, etc, have not felt that great on the eve of a major.
A true champion gets his head down, and battles.
I think there must be more to it than meets the eye. At least I hope so.
If that is the real reason for Karlsson's withdrawal, then he should be ashamed of himself.
You don't get that many chances to win The Open in your career.
I'm sure that in years gone by, the likes of Young Morris, Thomson, Nicklaus, Watson, etc, etc, have not felt that great on the eve of a major.
A true champion gets his head down, and battles.
I think there must be more to it than meets the eye. At least I hope so.
As a bit of interest i've put £10 on Tim Clark @ 270 and £10 on Gregory Havret @ 560.
You don't get that many chances to win The Open in your career
He obviously reckons he has no chance.
He obviously reckons he has no chance.
3 against the field for starters...
Fowler main bet but still looking to get matched @ 42 - impressed last year (well documented I know).
Larrazabal @ 470 - in decent form and proven on links.
Mulroy @ 1000 - impressed in recent US starts and worth a chance if weather ok for early starters tomorrow.
gl all, enjoy...
Fowler main bet but still looking to get matched @ 42 - impressed last year (well documented I know).
Larrazabal @ 470 - in decent form and proven on links.
Mulroy @ 1000 - impressed in recent US starts and worth a chance if weather ok for early starters tomorrow.
gl all, enjoy...
Went today and had a good look at a lot of players - several stood out for me.
Bubba Watson - played just brilliantly early on in awful conditions. Kept the ball low and shaped things well. Course management in strong winds was A1.
Both Johnsons look bang in form, Zach especially.
Rory was only on the range but looks much better - 25's is a ridiculous price. He could win by 5 shots.
Westy was putting poorly, Kuch's irons were off and Baddeley just had a shocker (he practiced for 9 hours today!).
Bubba Watson - played just brilliantly early on in awful conditions. Kept the ball low and shaped things well. Course management in strong winds was A1.
Both Johnsons look bang in form, Zach especially.
Rory was only on the range but looks much better - 25's is a ridiculous price. He could win by 5 shots.
Westy was putting poorly, Kuch's irons were off and Baddeley just had a shocker (he practiced for 9 hours today!).
like ' get in the hole ',posters who say certain golfers can win by 5 shots, should be banned
Team finalised.
A few bad calls on the prices.
Rory @ 21
F.Molinari @ 55
L.Oost @ 55
Bubba @ 85
K.Bradley @ 130
C.Petterson @ 210
A.Quiros @ 350
J.Daley @ 410
Ashley Hall @ 375 (First rd leader.)
Ashley Hall @ 350 (Top 5 finish.)
Gl all.
A few bad calls on the prices.
Rory @ 21
F.Molinari @ 55
L.Oost @ 55
Bubba @ 85
K.Bradley @ 130
C.Petterson @ 210
A.Quiros @ 350
J.Daley @ 410
Ashley Hall @ 375 (First rd leader.)
Ashley Hall @ 350 (Top 5 finish.)
Gl all.
my bets to start with,
J.Byrd
R.Jacquelin
R.Rock
J.Morrison
S.O'Hara
M.Fraser
Good Luck All and let's hope it's a proper test.
J.Byrd
R.Jacquelin
R.Rock
J.Morrison
S.O'Hara
M.Fraser
Good Luck All and let's hope it's a proper test.
DOES ANY REMEMBER WHAT PRICE DARREN CLARKE WAS ON BETFAIR LAST YEAR? ...IS HE WORTH A BET AT 260/1 THIS YEAR? TY
I got Clarkey @ 270 on here last year.
Yes,he is worth a small interest here.
Yes,he is worth a small interest here.
1st time poster 18 Jul 12 19:19
like ' get in the hole ',posters who say certain golfers can win by 5 shots, should be banned
Last time they turned up for a major on a course softened up by rain Rory won by 8.
McIlroy is one of the few who has the talent to blast the field away. Granted he has a had a ropey few months but his price looks big. He was getting matched at single figures a few weeks ago. If their is little wind then he has a great chance.
like ' get in the hole ',posters who say certain golfers can win by 5 shots, should be banned
Last time they turned up for a major on a course softened up by rain Rory won by 8.
McIlroy is one of the few who has the talent to blast the field away. Granted he has a had a ropey few months but his price looks big. He was getting matched at single figures a few weeks ago. If their is little wind then he has a great chance.
Rory
Dufner
Justin
Jacobson
Coetzee
Ogilvy
Stanley win and top 5
Schwartzel win and top 5
g/l everyone
Dufner
Justin
Jacobson
Coetzee
Ogilvy
Stanley win and top 5
Schwartzel win and top 5
g/l everyone
Lee Westwood
17
£50.00
£800.00
Jason Dufner
55
£9.06
£489.24
Matt Kuchar
70
£7.83
£540.27
Charl Schwartzel
80
£6.83
£539.57
17
£50.00
£800.00
Jason Dufner
55
£9.06
£489.24
Matt Kuchar
70
£7.83
£540.27
Charl Schwartzel
80
£6.83
£539.57
i just have to keep riding the molinari train i think. been trying to justify not backing him this week but i cannot. yes, he may not win, but doesnt have to to make money ie. last week. he is my new timmay!!
ps: keegan bradley has really taken a cooler this year. cmon buddy, pull it out!!
ps2: tim clark moliari quinella
ps: keegan bradley has really taken a cooler this year. cmon buddy, pull it out!!
ps2: tim clark moliari quinella
Casey 3ball suspended...has he pulled out too?? Muppet.
casey prob realised if he put 1 shot in rough hes finished
Had a good bet on Curtis for the 3ball. Assume it void if Casey pulls out.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/lancaster/la1-1/hourly-weather-forecast/324579?hour=9
wind worse in arvo but only barely.
wind worse in arvo but only barely.
just chucked ten bucks on molinari/clark quinella @ 1501 luxbet
Traded
Tiger Woods
Hunter Mahan
Matt Kuchar
Zach Johnson
Francesco Molinari
Bubba Watson
Paul Lawrie
Alejandro Canizares
David Duval
Backed
Aaron Baddeley
Y.E. Yang
Gregory Havret
Kyung-Tae Kim
Chez Reavie
Laid
Luke Donald
Padraig Harrington
Sergio Garcia
Rickie Fowler
Ian Poulter
Ernie Els
Louis Oosthuizen
Dustin Johnson
More to come, hopefully, if not in-running.
Good luck everyone
Tiger Woods
Hunter Mahan
Matt Kuchar
Zach Johnson
Francesco Molinari
Bubba Watson
Paul Lawrie
Alejandro Canizares
David Duval
Backed
Aaron Baddeley
Y.E. Yang
Gregory Havret
Kyung-Tae Kim
Chez Reavie
Laid
Luke Donald
Padraig Harrington
Sergio Garcia
Rickie Fowler
Ian Poulter
Ernie Els
Louis Oosthuizen
Dustin Johnson
More to come, hopefully, if not in-running.
Good luck everyone
My small bets placed yesterday are
N Colsearts 100
N Watney 110
A Noren 150
J M Singh 210
M Baldwin460
G Havret 560
N Culen 1000
K Ichihara 1000
A T ownsend 1000
S Khan 1000
L Slattery 1000
Hicks, Chopra Bennett Lane, Tiley,Keenan, Saltman all 1000
N Colsearts 100
N Watney 110
A Noren 150
J M Singh 210
M Baldwin460
G Havret 560
N Culen 1000
K Ichihara 1000
A T ownsend 1000
S Khan 1000
L Slattery 1000
Hicks, Chopra Bennett Lane, Tiley,Keenan, Saltman all 1000
Mickleson played really well last week, in the same wet conditions as will be this week.
Thoughts? Worth a shout?
Currently 40's ish...
Thoughts? Worth a shout?
Currently 40's ish...
I think Mickelson is always worth a punt at 40s personally
he is a multiple major winnner and can beat anyone on his weekend.
he is a multiple major winnner and can beat anyone on his weekend.
Mickelson and Westwood both started well and then went steadily backwards . Very poor from 2 such experienced players , and they could not blame the conditions .
Overall the standard of golf was not up to my expectations . Nothing hard out there today except bunkers and severe rough ( where the ball should not be ) . And the greens were running true and even paced .
Overall the standard of golf was not up to my expectations . Nothing hard out there today except bunkers and severe rough ( where the ball should not be ) . And the greens were running true and even paced .
Daily Update.
Traded
Tiger Woods
Hunter Mahan
Matt Kuchar
Zach Johnson
Francesco Molinari
Bubba Watson
Paul Lawrie
Alejandro Canizares
David Duval
Gregory Havret
Aaron Baddeley
Rory McIlroy
Graeme McDowell
Steve Stricker
Ernie Els
Louis Oosthuizen
Dustin Johnson
Luke Donald
Padraig Harrington
Sergio Garcia
Rickie Fowler
Ian Poulter
Brandt Snedeker
Lee Westwood
Charl Schwartzel
Justin Rose
Keegan Bradley (by far the biggest green and would love for him to get -6 to -8 today)
Backed
Y.E. Yang
Hiroyuki Fujita
Kyung-Tae Kim
Chez Reavie
Phil Mickelson
Laid
Adam Scott
Traded
Tiger Woods
Hunter Mahan
Matt Kuchar
Zach Johnson
Francesco Molinari
Bubba Watson
Paul Lawrie
Alejandro Canizares
David Duval
Gregory Havret
Aaron Baddeley
Rory McIlroy
Graeme McDowell
Steve Stricker
Ernie Els
Louis Oosthuizen
Dustin Johnson
Luke Donald
Padraig Harrington
Sergio Garcia
Rickie Fowler
Ian Poulter
Brandt Snedeker
Lee Westwood
Charl Schwartzel
Justin Rose
Keegan Bradley (by far the biggest green and would love for him to get -6 to -8 today)
Backed
Y.E. Yang
Hiroyuki Fujita
Kyung-Tae Kim
Chez Reavie
Phil Mickelson
Laid
Adam Scott
Apart from Snedeker and Donald today the golf has been very average . And course could be taken apart by someone playing well . Hopefully this afternoon will be better overall .
Traded
Thorbjorn Olesen
Today plan is to start trading on Dufner and Aiken.
Thorbjorn Olesen
Today plan is to start trading on Dufner and Aiken.
Afternoon was better thank goodness . Obviously Snedeker and Scott came up with the scores , expect some one to pop up today and give them a run for their money .
Terrible swing on the first from Rory . And after 2 hours yesterday on the range ?
dreadful hope he shoots 100. Pod's teeth are off putting
The lack of any depth on the leaderboard from these shores is worrying . Apart from Gmac basically there is no presence , despite the often quoted fact that the top 3 rated golfers in the world rankings are from here . The leaderboard is full of ROW and Americans .
The course has been playing easy peasy unless you are making a deliberate effort not to avoid bunkers . Anyone who has kept the ball fairly straight and not attempted impossible shots has done well relative to their ability .
Have we in these isles lost our traditional ability to play on links courses ?
The course has been playing easy peasy unless you are making a deliberate effort not to avoid bunkers . Anyone who has kept the ball fairly straight and not attempted impossible shots has done well relative to their ability .
Have we in these isles lost our traditional ability to play on links courses ?
In fairness Kelly it hasn't played like a true links this week
Know that Mighty Whites , but to me that just removes one of the excuses . Its still links turf , and the inability to put the ball close to the flag with wedges etc in your hand has been very disappointing . The greens are running true , not too fast , cant blame them . Water in the bunkers is a problem , that rule needs to be looked at .
Just think that possibly the current breed find it difficult to "play golf" on courses with slightly different problems than they face week in and week out on the normal tour schedule .
Just think that possibly the current breed find it difficult to "play golf" on courses with slightly different problems than they face week in and week out on the normal tour schedule .
Think you are being a bit harsh. There are 5 GB & Irl players in the world top 20. McDowell has a good chance, Donald will probably 10. The truth is the Americans have much more strength in depth.
Possibly being a bit harsh , Mighty , but the challenge from our top players has been so disappointing .
Reference the course , which is a Colt course , essentially fair therefore , question arises as to the bunkers . Any resemblance between the bunkers at Lytham and the bunkers on the Colt courses I grew up playing ( and still do occasionally) is very marginal . Wonder have they deepened them ? I am sure that Colt did not have rivetted faces on them , which means that often players have to play out sideways or backwards .
Some commentators have described the course as "quirky " . Dont see that much apart from the bunker questions , think its the players who are a bit quirky when faced with a problem they dont like . Golf was not always meant to be fair unless you were on the fairway , in the old days players coped with the vicissitudes because they had to , the Open was one of the few decent potential money earning tournaments available to guys who sometimes struggled to make a decent living from looking after the members . Nowadays its just a hop on the next jet to somewhere the pastures are green and easier .
Having said that , the Open winner in 1953 got just over £300 , the winner of the Irish Open that year ( at Belvoir Park in Belfast suburbs ) got £750 ( sterling , not punts ) . But I suppose there was also the Claret Jug . The medal for that Irish Open win ( Eric Brown ) was sold at auction a few years ago for £3000 I believe . Belvoir did not buy it , regretfully I suspect , its not even as much as the initial entry fee there .
Reference the course , which is a Colt course , essentially fair therefore , question arises as to the bunkers . Any resemblance between the bunkers at Lytham and the bunkers on the Colt courses I grew up playing ( and still do occasionally) is very marginal . Wonder have they deepened them ? I am sure that Colt did not have rivetted faces on them , which means that often players have to play out sideways or backwards .
Some commentators have described the course as "quirky " . Dont see that much apart from the bunker questions , think its the players who are a bit quirky when faced with a problem they dont like . Golf was not always meant to be fair unless you were on the fairway , in the old days players coped with the vicissitudes because they had to , the Open was one of the few decent potential money earning tournaments available to guys who sometimes struggled to make a decent living from looking after the members . Nowadays its just a hop on the next jet to somewhere the pastures are green and easier .
Having said that , the Open winner in 1953 got just over £300 , the winner of the Irish Open that year ( at Belvoir Park in Belfast suburbs ) got £750 ( sterling , not punts ) . But I suppose there was also the Claret Jug . The medal for that Irish Open win ( Eric Brown ) was sold at auction a few years ago for £3000 I believe . Belvoir did not buy it , regretfully I suspect , its not even as much as the initial entry fee there .
luke doesnt seem to be an open player, but still around 10-20th ....should be doing better round here ???
i didnt expect westwood to do well here, he doesnt seem to enjoy links golf
rory has been out of form for a while, found a 67 to open but couldnt keep it going
rose stuffed by being paired with tiger (again) ...not the greatest excuse but you would think they would give the lad a break in his home open
g mac enjoying the scrap, holed some putts, right in there
scott has been handed a massive advantage simply for driving the ball so well, fair dos to him
i didnt expect westwood to do well here, he doesnt seem to enjoy links golf
rory has been out of form for a while, found a 67 to open but couldnt keep it going
rose stuffed by being paired with tiger (again) ...not the greatest excuse but you would think they would give the lad a break in his home open
g mac enjoying the scrap, holed some putts, right in there
scott has been handed a massive advantage simply for driving the ball so well, fair dos to him
rose stuffed by being paired with tiger (again) ...not the greatest excuse but you would think they would give the lad a break in his home open
Or maybe he could grow a pair?
Or maybe he could grow a pair?
not going to be massively windy - but will be strongest for the leaders
It's not even moving Rickies mullet.
Another bland day on the cards.
Another bland day on the cards.
Strange end . Well done Ernie , thats 4 Majors . Couldn't happen to a nicer guy .
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