US OPEN EARLY THOUGHTS

Donald
Westwood
Mcilroy
Fowler

Dufner

£20 on justin rose 27's

gone for a fair few
main wins
bo van pelt
arron baddely
zach johnson
med wins
geoff ogilvy
louis oosthuizen
jonathon byrd

small wins
kuchar
striker
furyk(very small)

small bets on outsiders

crane
toms
wilson
manassero

didnt realise how many until started typing

gl all

Maggy,sits at home 24/7 posting pointless comments.
I wont post bets cos some people i know that have more than 1 account on betfair know i have the time to look through things and are after free info.
And although i know 1 of their account names i dont know the other
So this person might be you Maggy.
I dont mind posting a few thoughts,stats,bits of info etc
i doubt some of that info was known by many Maggy

Bo Van Pelt has won once in his career on tour and has choked away a few chances and is wanted @ 60.....Mark Wilson has 5 career wins ( 2 in 2011 & 1 in 2012 ) and is available to back @ 470. I would doubt very much that either of them will be winning but who is the guy wanting 60 about BVP ???  I have a second hand car for sale

US Open Eve.......I it !!

What happened to 'the muppet moans' and his/her usual write up......just curious...

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Zach johnson
Justin Rose
Duffner
Davis Love
David Thoms
Octopus (Jim Furyk)
Hunter Mahan
Steve Stricker

Think thats enough for the first few days hopefully get a few of these amongst the leaders early rounds

Zach johnson
Justin Rose
Duffner
Davis Love
David Thoms
Octopus (Jim Furyk)
Hunter Mahan
Steve Stricker

Think thats enough for the first few days hopefully get a few of these amongst the leaders early rounds

can lay woods at 9.6 on purple..anyone interested

Little point,Tigers out at 7.33 am,if he hits a few early birdies you may get the chance to lay a lot shorter,gaurenteed the layers will panic.

Olympic, according to the World Golf Hall of Fame author and journalist Dan Jenkins is “where the wrong guy wins every time." Only if you thought the right guy was Hogan, Arnold Palmer, Tom Watson or Payne Stewart. And a great many did. Including Jenkins, who, from Fort Worth as was Hogan, properly idolized Ben.
The idea Olympic is the “graveyard of legends," as emphasized at each subsequent Open, developed because in the first one held there, 1955, Jack Fleck, from a municipal course in Iowa, upset Hogan, as well as people named Middlecoff, Snead and Littler. Fleck, using Hogan clubs, caught Ben over the final holes and then beat him in the 18-hole playoff.
When 11 years later the Open returned to Olympic, located just across a highway and some sand dunes from the Pacific, the plot was similar. Only the characters had changed. Arnie was the man and with nine holes left also was the leader by seven shots.

But he stumbled and Billy Casper gained, and, lo, another playoff, won by Casper. If people thought it was a fluke, well, it was Billy’s second Open championship. So there.
Not until 1987 did the Open come back to Olympic. This time it was Scott Simpson, the classic plodder on a plodder’s course, finishing a shot in front of Tom Watson, who had graduated from Stanford 30 miles down the road.
In 1998, Payne Stewart was leading several holes into the final round, but Lee Janzen was the winner, for a second time. Not much of a personality, said the critics, but they couldn’t criticize his golf.

For those that havent read it,very interesting facts associated with the u.s open venue this week.

J-Day at 95s is another at a cracking price this week. Generally turns up at majors, and was second at the US Open (and Masters) last year. Not in the best form, but you can't go wrong at the price.

Wont be playing the favs,ie tiger,donald,westwood anyway,value the way to go in this one,Day is a big price,to big,ide have him around the 50 mark,tied 2nd 2011 masters and u.s open and tied 10th in the 2010 uspga,forms so so but wasnt fab coming into last years masters.

Driving accuracy and greens in regulation stats dont make great reading though.

Cant wait to see this Andy Zhang play,14 years old,6 feet tall,amazing,hope he has a good score.

2500 on T.wood
1250 on J.byrd
250 on M.illonen

will pass the time on the weekend. Should have some interest come Sunday.

D Love and Z Johnson 1st round leaders both ew. Outright bets to be placed at the end of the first round when some huge overreactions have taken place(hopefully)

Although they've had wildly different results since, i got to see KT Kim and Bubba Watson go head to head in the final round down here in Oz earlier in the year. Bubba is 46s (fair enough too) while Kim is 850s - I'll take some of that thank you.

For what it's worth Bubba and Kim both fell away on day four, leaving Greg Chalmers to swoop in for the title.

I am with you Miss A - KT Kim is my best result going in. I think it is only a matter of time before he shows the world how good he is, has no end of talent and is very much a thinker suited to a grinding type of event

Just added a little Angel Cabrera at 570s. They say Oakmont 2007 was the toughest test ever, and that Olympic this year will rival it. Seeing as it was Angel that was last man standing then, I think he's worth a tickle.

Taken stake out of Streelman, and chucked some of it on Simon Dyson.

May yet add Lucas Glover. His price has reached a tempting level.

Team for the week
Kuchar
Haas
R Castro
R Garrigus
N Watney
N Colsartes
C Sharl

Anyone any idea what time leaders scheduled to go out on Sunday? Sky on air til 3am, so could be as late as 9.30? Wanna give the local publican a bit of notice!!

AD or miss anomally, any idea if the rank 'n file terrestrial viewer will get to see the US OPEN this year? Can't see it in my tv schedule. Gutted. Time is perfect for an early riser as well.

Think it's Foxtel only Chosen.

Damn! Sure I watched it on tv rather than online last year - maybe they didn't like the timing eating into midday tv this time around. To$$ers.

Thanks anyway, rhino.

Will be interesting to see how this "play tracker" on Open site....looks good...

http://www.usopen.com/en_US/scoring/playtracker.html

usually look forward to the us open, but the course looks a bit of a lottery, and not a par 5 until the 16th
no bets for me, but i've backed luuuuuuuke e/w first 6 at 14's for my mam
was slightly tempted for an interest, but i didn't get to being the greatest propunter in the game putting on fun bets
tiger at 10's looks fair playing in his home state, but i can watch the legend win and still get a buzz

enjoy and i will be going in large at lytham

I thought it was only on Fox last year as well Chosen?

But there will be plenty of online links available if that is any help to you

Team going in.

Jason Dufner
Bubba Watson
Robert Garrigus
Soren Kjeldsen
Mark Wilson
Kevin Streelman
Trevor Immelman
Scott Piercy
Simon Dyson
Lucas Glover
Jason Bohn
Stephen Ames

Good luck all.

As others have said, I'm pretty sure it is only on Fox this year Chosen. I think one of the ads I saw said 'for the first time ever on Fox', so unless I imagined that it's always been free to air before.

Missed Blake Adams.

Thanks AD, miss anomally.

Wonderful! As I said, the viewing time is a dream this year, but not if you're a the humble expat spouse of a PhD candidate living on a tight budget with a seven-month-old daughter down under. Oh yes, and laptop currently on the fritz - keeps cutting out due to fan issues relating to accumulation of dust. Just had a quote of $165 to blow away the offending cobwebs. I'll leave you to guess my response. Suppose I'll have to get out the screwdriver and get in there myself. The things we have to go through to see a bit of golf down here.

Stake back on Points and added Watney.

I hope it works out for you Chosen, and you see some of the golf. Worst case you can probably catch the last couple of hours at a pub... if you feel like drinking from 9am

Surely the 7 month old daughter is worth every penny mate, make sure you get a golf club in her hands early on, you might get to see a US Womens Open live that way

my team
Harrington
Els
Manassero
Immelman
Rocky
Gonzo
Harman
Chappell
Ames
Good luck folks.

Just about where I want to be with U.S. Open, except for backing Donald or Westwood.  I can't really believe that two or three of the top six in the betting won't figure somewhere along the way.  I have put some more into the parachute fund, just in case the golf goes completely t*ts up.

I expect to be abused for putting horses on the golf forum, but I don't want to be abused for after timing.  Going for the record today as I have never laid more than 19 losers on the trot before.  I have laid four today, with one more partly unmatched.

The four matched are Les Verguettes (Nottingham 2.30) @ 5.00 average, Cantal (Yarmouth 3.50) @ 2.70 average, Razorbill (Nottingham 4.5) @ 2.96, Sea Fever (Haydock 9.20) @ 2.90.

It'll give everyone a laugh if nothing else.  Good luck to everyone with the golf.

Rory at 23
DJ at 44
Oosthuizen at 75
Kaymer at 80
Day at 100
Ogilvy at 130
Cabrera Bello at 500
GFC at 680

Hanson and Bjorn.

Big on Franco Moli to beat Matteo for Top Italian.

Ryo Ish top Japanese also.

Laid off my Lucas Glover stake, and chucked half on K.T Kim.

Traded out on Keegan Bradley.....

Off to the driving range for some fresh air and exercise.

Disappointed that i can't get these matched.
Paddy @110
Bjorn @ 300
Love 111 @350
Na and Grace @400
Piercy @1000

Be lucky all....

Oh laid F Moly...too low for someone starting from hole 1

Traded

Tiger Woods     
Rory McIlroy     
Phil Mickelson     
Jason Dufner     
Hunter Mahan     
Rickie Fowler
Keegan Bradley
     
Laid

Lee Westwood
Justin Rose
Matt Kuchar
Adam Scott   
Zach Johnson   
Peter Hanson   
Bo Van Pelt
Francesco Molinari
Luke Donald

Laid Garcia

now i am off

Westwood seems the best chance at the top of the market to me, but i have gone for;

Bubba Watson 50
Keegan Bradley 90
Kevin Streelman 560
Blake Adams  620
Kevin Chappell 810
Martin Flores 930

Go Bubba !!

Rory at 24 just has to be backed!!!

Agreed Lethal. I also like Merlin's pick of Chappell... Here's hoping Merlin has the magic touch.

Would be rude not to, just in case, Pod added.

The last one, Perfect Delight, laid @ 3.7.

4.00 Newbury, by the way.

Still can't do twenty in a row. 7/1 in running.

Laid stake Jason Bohn.

Likewise, maggot.   Losing day on the horses, though.

Stake and a bit aout of Mark Wilson, which makes me already green.

Bjorn and Hanson off to stinkers. Lovely

''Disappointed that i can't get these matched.
Paddy @110
Bjorn @ 300
Love 111 @350
Na and Grace @400
Piercy @1000''

Na and Grace - 3

Should have taken 240-ish then Ski

Good to see KT Kim get an early bird. Doesn't quite make up for Phil's start though...

240ish was too low in my opinion.....

Wood's odds under 4 now......

Been trading Tiger very nicely tonight.  In retrospect, made a bit of a mess of Jason, taken stake and a bit out of Raphael Cabrera-Bello, did do Zach Johnson right though.  Good luck.

Tiger's price has got to be a joke! I mean certainly, if after saturday he was still only 3 off the lead and only having to overhaul Thompson fair enough but the first day and a lot of top players haven't even played one hole yet - the market has gone mad!

Quincy.... how can you possibly have made a mess of Bohn ??

Jun 14, 2012 -- 2:55PM, brucewayne wrote:

Tiger's price has got to be a joke! I mean certainly, if after saturday he was still only 3 off the lead and only having to overhaul Thompson fair enough but the first day and a lot of top players haven't even played one hole yet - the market has gone mad!

Actually it's a fair price considering the course is ultra hard and 4 golfers currently are under par.....

I appreciate that Ski-Wiz but in terms of the fact that Westwood,Donald and McIlroy haven't tee'd off yet amongst other very accomplished golfers I would say it is a short price! Some may feel it is good value I personally don't!

Westwood and Donald has never won a major....Westwood useless playing in USA....prefers easy tournaments in Europe and Indonesia .....Only Rory can threaten to dislodge Wood's price....

But if it goes down to 3.5 then i'm laying

Laid him do early, maggot.  He's stll a winner, but should be a lot better.

Just made a mess of Kuchar as well.

Kuchar is OK now, maggot.

An update

Traded

Tiger Woods     
Rory McIlroy    (huge greens, hopefully he grabs a few birdies so i can lay off at a decent price)
Phil Mickelson     
Jason Dufner     
Hunter Mahan     
Rickie Fowler
Keegan Bradley
Lee Westwood
Adam Scott   
Zach Johnson   
Peter Hanson   
Bo Van Pelt
Francesco Molinari
Luke Donald
Jim Furyk
Sergio Garcia
     
Laid

Justin Rose (part traded)
Matt Kuchar (part traded)
Ian Poulter

Horses yesterday not as bad as I expected, and the parachute fund was not needed.  Had four today but one has drifted over my 4/1 limit, so will try to lay that in running.  Most of my lays do shorten up in running anyway.

The three laid are Jocasta Dawn (2.40 Sandown) @ 2.82, Green Howard (4.45 York) @ 4.60, aand Ken's Girl (5.30 Chepstow) @ 2.96.  Have now taken stake out of Blake Adams,  left a bit of green for an unlikely further trade.  Good luck today.

are they running sanfran race track

That's a bit deep for me, xmoneyx.  But I worked it out eventually.

Well more than happy with day 1. Very early days of course but my hunch for Watney to be inspired by local/childhood vibes has started well as have my two of the 'big guns' in Rose & Kuuch.

Points only reasonably solid and Badds & Wilson aren't completely finished yet although they need an under par round to get back in to it today.

Also great run for my money with Allen for first round leader . I thought his bogey at the last was going to be the difference to being in place money but as it happened more of PM starters got to -1 than I expected so didn't make a difference. Probably just as well he didn't get in at Even as I'd have gone to bed thinking there was a good chance of being in the money only to wake up dissapointed!

Traded him out on here though for the vast bulk of the big green I had on him from 1000s so covered my first round leader bet.

More of the same from Watney, Rose & kuuuch this afternoon now please!

Good luck and enjoy second round everyone!

A couple of predictions from me today. Ok, they may seem a bit far fetched at first glance but are they ?

Martin Flores(450+)to be in the Top5 at the end of the day.
Currently +1 and probably had the best of the conditions yesterday but he always gives himself plenty of birdie opportunities and is in the top 10 in strokes gained putting on the USPGA Tour.

Michael Thompson (34)to extend his lead at the top.He putted well yesterday but then again he probably knows the greens better than most finishing runner up in the US Amateur. All the big names will be content with Par golf to leave themselves a chance over the weekend whereas Thompson could  easily shoot low again putting the way he is.

watney--nice double eagle(yank)

jocasta dawn no where

Will prob get a lot of stick for what Iam about to type but I will put it out here now - Westwood to win - seen enough yesterday, watched his whole round and he was very unlucky with certain bounces etc have a feeling with the early conditions being better he could shoot a 67 or so! Tiger will end the day over par IMO.

BruceWayne (my Grandfather used to say never trust a man with two Christian names!)- I can see why you could think that based on yesterday, where to his credit he stuck on really well after an awful start. But the fact is he simply doesn't win in the States. 2 wins in 20 odd years is more than just a short trend! Surely we have enough evidence of that now to believe he will struggle to get past some very solid guys 3 and 4 ahead of him.

Kuchar is the one I would very surprised to see not around the mark come Sunday, Poulter can not be dismissed and I thought Toms price held up really well from the time finished yesterday. Dufner likely to keep coming also

no stick from me---i backed him before the 1st---played pretty solid in worse conditions after

Westwood won't win hence i laid him pre-tournament.....backed him for less so he's green now....if Westwood wants to prove me and others around the globe wrong......he's welcome too.

But i know in my heart he won't..

I have never put money on or fancied Westwood ever for a major so it's not as tho Iam a fan of his, or that Iam having a sentimental bet, it's based purely on what i saw and the fact that he is close enough to the likes of Woods having been unfortunate shall we say makes 20-1 much too big IMO. Yeah, Aussie Driver I think Kuchar will be in the mix myself come Sunday

Having laid Wood at 3.5......should i now back him or leave him alone...??

Decision...decision...decision....

in my heart

not your HEAD

The horse that was too big this morning was Emmuska (3.50 Sandown), now laid @ 4.9.

I would leave him Ski-Wiz I think you will be able to get him at a much better price after all is said and done on day 2! Just my opinion of course!

Ski, your own words:-
Ski-Wiz Joined: 23 Sep 05
   
Ski-wiz's rule number one - always get your stakes out when you can.....

Ski, having backed Westwood @ 30, laid @ 27, and backed again @ 30, do I now lay again @ 21, getting a bit confused with this tournament.  It's a complete lottery.

I would lay westy now and lock in your profit....30 to 20 is a good trade......

Yeah bruce....decided to go for a stroll and a cigar to think.....interrupted by the sudden heavy rain....will leave it for now

Bubba Watson,quote "took a long break after the masters,wheres his game at the moment".Why would you back him in this ?1st round +8,looked totally disinterested and was even taking huge interest in which club Tiger was useing on one hole !! laughable.The masters winner ???
Phil Mickelson.quote "Can be wayward off the tee,admitted recently he needed a break" Why would you back him? 1st round +6,was so wayward off the tee i thought Phil had invented a new sport,hit the bird out the tree !!.
Rory Mcilroy.quote"Is he showing to much interest in other things and not concentrating on his golf?" why would you back him ?1st round +7.Looked totally disinterested from the first hole,obviously didnt want to be there.
Luke Donald.quote "Followed him before his improvement,looked to be lacking a bit of steel"Why would you back him? 1st round +9,Have to congratulate Luke actually,hes not only proved me exactly right,hes as good as a 14 year old boy.On championship courses against the best he hasnt got it mentally.
Lee Westwood.Quote " In the Tiger?Rory camp on this,love p u s s y but not when it has man boobs and a funny grin" 1st round +3.Probably over slated him,but 56 majors,13 top 10's,given the price he normally is you would need a large bank roll following him,to his credit kept his chances alive following a dreadful start,but this is how he plays,he may possibly get himself in contention at some stage but yet again the wheels will fall off as yet again the bottle goes.
Just like to say thanks to the guys that said i dont know what im talking about and never give constructive info and continually post drivel

Took some out of Westwood @ 16 & 20, Robert Karlsson is my next problem.  Has shortened from 90 to 65 since 10.30 this morning and hasn't started yet.   Staked already out, but plenty of green to play with.

All green now.....disappointed with Rory as didn't have a chance to green up the 'jackpot' greens.....reasonable greens is better than nothing i suppose, but could have been brilliant....

Now what shall i do ?

Traded

Tiger Woods     
Rory McIlroy    (huge greens, never got to green up, what a waste of 2 months trading on him)
Phil Mickelson     
Jason Dufner     
Hunter Mahan     
Rickie Fowler
Keegan Bradley
Lee Westwood
Adam Scott   
Zach Johnson   
Peter Hanson   
Bo Van Pelt
Francesco Molinari
Luke Donald
Jim Furyk
Sergio Garcia
Justin Rose
Matt Kuchar
Ian Poulter
Beau Hossler   

Laid
Furyk again.....small red.

Had a cheeky amount on Dufner @ 46 last night after Tiger finished.....thinking no one daft enough to match it.....imagine to my surprise someone did and now traded out @34....love these kind of trades.

Is anyone going to post their updates......to prevent accusation of aftertiming of course

Ski, green up for a profit of 30 per cent on initial stakes.  As it stands,
Woods, smallest red.
Furyk, Tom, McDowell reasonable greens,
Dufner a bit worse than Tiger, as is Colsaerts and Mahan.
Kuchar, Westwood, Scwartzel, Stricker, Adams, Els and some no-hopers green.
The rest small reds
My two biggest pre-tourney bets missed the cut.

Well didn't quite go to plan yesterday. Shocker from Points and disappointing that Rose, Kuch & Watney all went backwards.

Still a lot of golf to be played off course but with Tiger & Jimbo looking ominous suspect I'm playing for top 6 money now.

My two biggest pre-tourney bets missed the cut.

Was Rory one of them.....?

Im on Kooch and pretty happy so far. He missed a few putts yesterday that you'd expect him to make.

If he shoots level par today I'd be delighted. I can see +1 leading by the end of today.