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OilyWragg
10 May 25 12:17
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We all know that sometimes at different tracks that their can be a stall advantage, so I've number crunched this one and came up with a system for stalls 1 and 2.

Basic rules:

Priced between 2/1 and 8/1
Stall 1 or 2.

This is totally backfitted and untried so who knows where it will go. The strike rate is low at around 19 pcent meaning of course that more than 80% lose so there will be long losing runs, 31 is the longest (backfitted) and 10 in the place market. The A/E is 1.08 and the average Bfsp is 5.93.

I'll adjust the parameters and put up each day those that fall into the price range of 6/4 to 12/1 at the time of posting but of course only those falling between 2/1 and 8/1 at the off will count. Current losing run is 7.

Todays:

Today 1.55    Fallen Soldier (IRE)    Nottingham (Str)   
Today 1.55    Dreambird Dolly    Nottingham (Str)       
Today 4.15    Spirit Of Applause    Nottingham (Str)
Pause Switch to Standard View System for stalls 1 and 2 - untried
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Report OilyWragg July 16, 2025 12:45 PM BST
Nothing qualified again yesterday: These are todays so far:

Today 4.00    Mrs Bagerran 9/2
Today 4.00    Masterclass    8/1
Today 6.10    Speed Of Maajid    9/2
Today 7.30    Redshore City 8/1
Report OilyWragg July 16, 2025 6:29 PM BST
Speed of Majid 2nd at a Bfsp of 3.2
Report OilyWragg July 17, 2025 2:23 PM BST
Today 1.50    Bleep Test   
Today 2.20    Ski Angel   

Possible:

Today 1.50    Ice Cold Alex
Report OilyWragg July 18, 2025 11:47 AM BST
We could do with a winner, current losing run is 10.

Today 8.20 Educating Rita 3/1

and possibly

Today 7.55 Squealer
Report OilyWragg July 19, 2025 11:32 AM BST
Current losing run is now 11 and although the thread is still showing a profit at Bfsp it now isn't at Isp.
Report OilyWragg July 19, 2025 11:34 AM BST
Only possible qualifier today it seems is:

Today 3.05 Mgheera
Report OilyWragg July 21, 2025 8:24 AM BST
Mgheera, placed second at a Bfsp of 2.25 in the 2Tbp market.
Report OilyWragg July 21, 2025 8:26 AM BST
Possible is:

Today 5.15 Sanbona
Report OilyWragg July 22, 2025 9:58 AM BST
Nothing yesterday as it turned out, today: possibly:

Today 3.15    Spirit Star   
Today 3.15    Redditizio    
Today 7.00    Henrythenate

Today 7.00    Star Marian
Report OilyWragg July 23, 2025 11:32 AM BST
Only possible for today is:

Today 5.45 Summertime Madness, currently 12/1
Report OilyWragg July 24, 2025 12:24 PM BST
Nothing yesterday, just one today:

Today 2.10 Jenever
Report OilyWragg July 25, 2025 10:26 AM BST
Possible selections today:

Today 5.10    Beaumadier    
Today 5.37    Oh Cecelia

Maybe - if odds contract,



Today 6.12    Agouti Bear    
Today 7.00    Pearls Edge
Report OilyWragg July 28, 2025 11:17 AM BST
Since last post, another three losers and just the one winner.

Doesnt look like anything today thus far.
Report OilyWragg July 28, 2025 11:20 AM BST
Since the thread started on the 10th May, the good start has been eroded by a really poor July with the dwindling profit at Bfsp now standing at just 1 point from 127 selections.
Report OilyWragg July 28, 2025 5:28 PM BST
5.30 Mumayaz.
Report OilyWragg July 28, 2025 5:32 PM BST
3rd place at 2.36 Bfsp in the 3tbp market.
Report OilyWragg July 29, 2025 11:51 AM BST
Tuesdays possibles:

Today 5.10    Herakles 15/2
Today 7.40    Latin Five 11/2
Report OilyWragg July 30, 2025 11:56 AM BST
Wednesday, looks like just the one:


Kolkata Knight (IRE)    6.15 Sandown
Report OilyWragg July 31, 2025 11:56 AM BST
Nothing today. As the system is now -3 points after 83 days of the trial I've changed a few things to include other stalls, not just one and two and adjusted the odds to a minimum of 5/2 and a mx of 17/2.
Report dave1357 August 1, 2025 8:37 AM BST
The task is not so much to see what no one has yet seen; but to think what nobody has yet thought, about that which everybody sees

Schrodinger
Report OilyWragg August 1, 2025 1:38 PM BST
A very nice quote dave.
Report OilyWragg August 1, 2025 1:40 PM BST
Todays possibles:

Gogo Yubari    2.15 Southwell   
Fallen Soldier     4.30 Newcastle   
Startling    4.30 Newcastle   
Kunaa  )    6.45 Musselburgh   
Castan            7.18 Musselburgh   
Curious Rover     7.18 Musselburgh   
Jm Jhingree     7.18 Musselburgh
Report OilyWragg August 2, 2025 10:32 AM BST
6 qualified yesterday, just the one winner at 44.83 Bfsp.
Report OilyWragg August 2, 2025 10:35 AM BST
Currently in the right price range for today:


Lord Harcourt    1.38 Thirsk    8/1
The Lost Sock (IRE)    1.38 Thirsk    4/1
Veiled Truth    1.38 Thirsk    8/1
Mary Shoelaces (IRE)    5.05 Newmarket (July)    4/1
Money Pockets    5.05 Newmarket (July)    9/2
Spendmore Lane    5.05 Newmarket (July)    7/1
Mc Loven    7.15 Lingfield    5/1
Sanat (IRE)    7.15 Lingfield    6/1
Grandlad (IRE)    7.30 Hamilton    4/1
Venture Capital    7.30 Hamilton    3/1
Street Life    8.00 Hamilton    17/2
Barnsnape Boy    8.15 Lingfield    7/1
Report top2rated August 2, 2025 4:49 PM BST
OilyWragg, re. "just the one winner yesterday at 44.83 Bfsp".

If you're referring to Curious Rover (7.18 Muss) then according to HRB it's was a 4.82 Bfsp shot.
Report OilyWragg August 2, 2025 8:42 PM BST
lol......yes Top2rated, just a typo.

Mary Shoelaces and Barnsape Boy winners at decent prices today from the 8 qthat qualified.

Looks like just the two tomorrow so far:


Last Outlaw (IRE)    4.42 Yarmouth   
Smooth Silesie (IRE)    4.42 Yarmouth
Report top2rated August 3, 2025 8:00 AM BST
OilyWragg, I'm beginning to wonder if I've missed something along the way re. the stall numbers...

For example...

Yesterday's 1.38 at Thirsk where your 'possibles' were in stalls 2, 3 and 4.

Yesterday's 5.05 at Newmarket where your 'possibles' were in stalls 1, 8 and 3.
Report OilyWragg August 5, 2025 11:21 AM BST
Hi top2rated,

Take a look at my post on the 31st July at 11.56, cheers.
Report OilyWragg August 5, 2025 11:26 AM BST
Smmoth Silesie in the 4.4.2 Yarmouth a winner at 10/1, out of the price range but noted.
Report OilyWragg August 5, 2025 11:29 AM BST
Todays possibles so far:


Today 5.00    Azucena
Today 7.15    Alondra   
Today 7.15    Bang On The Bell   

Dappering in the 7.15 if well backed could also come in to it.
Report top2rated August 5, 2025 11:56 AM BST
Apologies OW for missing the 'other stalls' part of your 31 July post.

It would appear that I'd only absorbed the min/max odds change.
Report OilyWragg August 5, 2025 1:08 PM BST
No worries top2rated.
Report OilyWragg August 6, 2025 2:16 PM BST
Wednesday so far:

Missmimi     4.05
Elara May     6.15
Marcus      7.27
Master Zack     7.27
Report OilyWragg August 7, 2025 12:20 PM BST
Today so far:

Today 7.30     Existent    
Today 7.30     Blind Beggar
Report OilyWragg August 7, 2025 7:06 PM BST
7.30 Woohoo is also a possible, currently backed in to 8/1.
Report OilyWragg August 8, 2025 11:50 AM BST
Friday so far:

Jungle Monarch (IRE)     2.20 Musselburgh     5/2
Equity Law     3.40 Thirsk     3/1
South Parade (IRE)     3.40 Thirsk     4/1
Al Hussar     3.55 Musselburgh     11/4
Jm Jhingree (IRE)     3.55 Musselburgh     9/2
Our Absent Friends (IRE)     3.55 Musselburgh     11/2
Pop Star (IRE)     3.55 Musselburgh     8/1
Under The Radar (IRE)     5.40 Haydock     6/1
Report OilyWragg August 9, 2025 9:31 AM BST
Lots in the frame again yesterday, today so far:

Rosario (IRE)     1.35 Ascot     13/2
Toca Madera (IRE)     1.35 Ascot     4/1
Venture Capital     1.35 Ascot     4/1
Gazelle Dor (IRE)     4.35 Curragh     6/1
Harb     6.12 Ayr     6/1
Maris Angel     6.12 Ayr     13/2
Nelson Gay (IRE)     6.12 Ayr     9/2
Royal Duke     6.12 Ayr     7/1
Level Up (IRE)     7.22 Lingfield     4/1
Son Of Wind (IRE)     7.22 Lingfield     13/2
Report OilyWragg August 10, 2025 11:08 AM BST
Looks like nothing today.
Report OilyWragg August 11, 2025 10:37 AM BST
Monday, lookslike twopossibles:

Havechatma     8.10 Windsor     8/1
Little Miss Magic (IRE)     8.10 Windsor     17/2
Report OilyWragg August 12, 2025 10:53 AM BST
Tuesday:

Fortunate Star (IRE)     5.40 Hamilton     7/2
Happier (IRE)     5.40 Hamilton     7/2
Masterclass     5.40 Hamilton     6/1
Report OilyWragg August 13, 2025 12:50 PM BST
Wednesday looks like:

Today 2.15     Mossvale Diva (IRE)     Beverley (Str)     9     Robinson, Ben    9/2     Ellison, B
Today 2.45     Noelies Dream     Beverley (Str)     8     Hart, Jason    8/1     Cunha, Dylan
Report OilyWragg August 14, 2025 9:58 AM BST
Thursday so far:


Shetakesthegold    3.00 Chepstow    5/1
Fenlander    3.47 Beverley    17/2
Reservardo (IRE)    5.00 Windsor    8/1
El Fontenaro (IRE)    5.52 Cork    9/2
Tino Pai (IRE)    5.52 Cork    9/2
Report OilyWragg August 15, 2025 10:22 AM BST
A bit of a disaster since changing/amending the rules, showing a loss of 12 points so far this motnh at Bfsp Sad
Report OilyWragg August 15, 2025 10:23 AM BST
Today 6.35     Ingleby Archie (IRE)     Thirsk (Str)     6     Shaw, Harrison    3/1     Nicholls, Adrian
Today 6.35     Stash The Cash (IRE)     Thirsk (Str)     6     Allan, David    8/1     Easterby, T D
Report OilyWragg August 16, 2025 11:45 AM BST
Rhythm N Hooves     2.25 Newbury     5/1
Report OilyWragg August 16, 2025 2:29 PM BST
At last, a winner, won at Bfsp of 6.4.
Report OilyWragg August 17, 2025 12:03 PM BST
Mr Lightside (IRE)     4.12 Pontefract
Report OilyWragg August 18, 2025 12:19 PM BST
Our Absent Friends (IRE)     4.15 Catterick     6/1
Beaumadier (IRE)     4.52 Windsor     9/2
Akirra (IRE)     5.25 Windsor     100/30
Arctic Wind     5.25 Windsor     5/1
Angel Numbers (IRE)     6.00 Windsor     5/1
Dazzling Haze     6.00 Windsor     3/1
Lil Brother     6.00 Windsor     6/1
Mission Classified (IRE)     6.00 Windsor     15/2
Report OilyWragg August 19, 2025 11:19 AM BST
Of the 6 qualifiers. one winner at 6.76 yesterday.
Report OilyWragg August 19, 2025 11:19 AM BST
Zoulu Warrior (IRE)     6.30 Chepstow     4/1
Report OilyWragg August 22, 2025 6:32 PM BST
Today 7.05    Lions House    Hamilton (Str)    7    Fraser, Kaiya    7/2    Perratt, Miss L A
Today 7.05    Elegant Erin (IRE)    Hamilton (Str)    7    Nolan, D    11/2    Midgley, P T
Today 7.05    Brummell (IRE)    Hamilton (Str)    7    Marshall, Tom Kiely (5)    6/1    Camacho, Miss J A
Today 8.05    Rock Of England (IRE)    Hamilton (Str)    7    Nolan, D    5/2F    Midgley, P T
Today 8.05    Global Effort (IRE)    Hamilton (Str)    7    Fentiman, Warren (5)    17/2    McEntee, P S
Report OilyWragg August 23, 2025 11:06 AM BST
Four qualified yesterday, one winner at a Bfsp of 8.23.
Report OilyWragg August 23, 2025 11:16 AM BST
66 bets since the 1 August when I changed the rules, just 10 winners at an average Bfsp of 6.64 which after an awful start is at least, at Bfsp, breaking even.

Typically under the old rules for August, sticking to stalls 1 and two produced 56 bets and 11 wins showing a profit at Bfsp of 12.03 points Crazy
Report OilyWragg August 23, 2025 5:11 PM BST
Im Spartacus (IRE)    5.40 Curragh    17/2
Report OilyWragg August 24, 2025 11:44 AM BST
Today 3.20     Mesaafi     Yarmouth (Str)     6     Mitchell, Jack    11/4     Burdon, R
Today 3.20     Law Of Average     Yarmouth (Str)     6     Haynes, Joey    15/2     Banham, Chelsea
Report OilyWragg August 24, 2025 3:15 PM BST
3.20 Rocking Ends - drifter
Report OilyWragg August 24, 2025 3:24 PM BST
Drifter wins it at 4.3.
Report OilyWragg August 25, 2025 11:26 AM BST
Just the one so far today:

Looks Likely     2.28 Chepstow     9/2
Report OilyWragg August 26, 2025 9:28 AM BST
Early doors as yet but todays possibles:

Doralee     3.20 Musselburgh     6/1
Golden Rainbow     3.20 Musselburgh     9/2
Jamies Choice     3.20 Musselburgh     11/2
The Right One (IRE)     6.25 Bellewstown     11/4
Fair Taxes (IRE)     6.55 Bellewstown     9/2
Velvet Skies (IRE)     6.55 Bellewstown     8/1
Report OilyWragg August 27, 2025 12:30 PM BST
Mossvale Diva (IRE)     2.15 Catterick     7/2
Staniel Cay (IRE)     2.15 Catterick     13/2
Davorge Nation (IRE)     3.00 Musselburgh     6/1
Dinamo (IRE)     3.00 Musselburgh     9/2
Report OilyWragg August 27, 2025 5:03 PM BST
Orbital Chime a possible in the 5.05
Report OilyWragg August 27, 2025 5:10 PM BST
Typical, hit 1.03 and caught on the line.
Report OilyWragg August 28, 2025 12:41 PM BST
Amiata (IRE)    3.30 Navan   
Raphello (IRE)    3.30 Navan   
Unionville    3.30 Navan
Report OilyWragg August 29, 2025 11:13 AM BST
Son Of Astar     1.25 Ffos Las     5/1
Back Tomorrow     7.30 Newcastle     7/1
Green Valentine (IRE)     7.30 Newcastle     17/2
Ninety Nine (IRE)     7.30 Newcastle     5/1
Report OilyWragg August 30, 2025 12:01 PM BST
Rock Of England 4.17 Beverley     8/1
Report OilyWragg August 31, 2025 11:52 AM BST
Doesnt look like any selections today so I'll do the end of month figures:

Since changing the rules on the 1st of August there have been 90 selections of which 13 have won showing a loss at Bfsp of 7.42 points.

Had we stuck to the original rules sadly the results were almost identical.

Time to move on I think although I'll keep the files in my system and check them periodically.

A new attempt will start from the 1st of September, one that I've been trialling since the 25th May and is quite eratic but promising, we'll see!!!
Report OilyWragg September 2, 2025 12:28 PM BST
First selections are today, its now only for the all weather tracks and the prices are between 5/4 and 11/1, strike rate is low at around 13% in the win market and 34 pcent place, the average price of winners at Bfsp has been 9.15, Bfsp only.

Corundum     7.30 Southwell     11/1
Brother Dave     9.00 Southwell     17/2
Rokuni (IRE)     9.00 Southwell     11/1

Two of them are borderline at 11/1.
Report OilyWragg September 3, 2025 10:38 AM BST
Two qualified yesterday, both unplaced.
Report OilyWragg September 3, 2025 10:38 AM BST
Today 4.35     Spacewoman     Lingfield (LH)     11     Clutterbuck, Rhys    13/8F     Candy, H
Today 7.30     Taaklam (IRE)     Kempton (RH)     12     Hutchinson, Callum    8/1     Walker, Ed
Report OilyWragg September 4, 2025 12:17 PM BST
Priestess    2.50 Southwell    7/1
Piperstown (IRE)    3.20 Southwell    11/2
Grey Soul (IRE)    5.00 Southwell    13/2
Victory Ace    5.18 Lingfield    3/1
Beautiful Dawn (IRE)    5.35 Southwell    11/2
Coloane (IRE)    5.35 Southwell    11/2
Ring Of Gold    5.35 Southwell    11/1
Report OilyWragg September 4, 2025 3:27 PM BST
Priestess our first winner under the newest attempt, comes in at a Bfsp of 10.5
Report OilyWragg September 4, 2025 5:38 PM BST
Like waiting for a bus, two come along at once! Coloane our second winner at a Bfsp of 7.0
Report OilyWragg September 6, 2025 11:00 AM BST
Superposition     2.05 Kempton     9/1
Dancing Bay      7.12 Wolverhampton 4/1
Report OilyWragg September 8, 2025 12:00 PM BST
Island Of Skye     6.40 Newcastle     9/1
Jesmond Dawn (IRE)     6.40 Newcastle     9/2
Ring Of Gold     7.10 Newcastle     3/1
Woodrafff     7.10 Newcastle     4/1
Report OilyWragg September 8, 2025 7:14 PM BST
3 of the 4 qualified today with Ring Of Gold a welcome winner at a Bfsp of 4.9.
Report OilyWragg September 9, 2025 11:21 AM BST
Since changing the rules to the system and concentrating on wider stalls at the all weather meetings, so far at 7, 10.5 and 4.9 giving us a profit at Bfsp of 6.01 pts.

Nothing today.
Report OilyWragg September 11, 2025 3:22 PM BST
Desert Beauty    3.45 Chelmsford City    11/1
Poetic Jack    3.45 Chelmsford City    17/2
Heavenly Heather    6.55 Newcastle    10/1
Mae Amor (IRE)    6.55 Newcastle    17/2
Report top2rated September 12, 2025 10:18 AM BST
Both of the above races won by the horse from stall 2.

3.45 Chelmsford - Almizan (ISP 14/1, BSP 17.50) 

6.55 Newcastle - Vibrant Pearl (ISP 14/1, BSP 23.00)

Report OilyWragg September 13, 2025 11:25 AM BST
Hi top2rated, its trying to back and predict them in advance the problem! The latest selections I'm putting up are based on the AW only and from the widest draws Crazy Not having a great lot of luck though I must say! Still, its early days yet so onwards and upwards.
Report OilyWragg September 13, 2025 11:26 AM BST
Comic Strip (IRE)    1.58 Lingfield    7/1
Romeo Montague    1.58 Lingfield    2/1
Report OilyWragg September 15, 2025 2:15 PM BST
Venetian Romance (IRE)    4.55 Kempton    10/1
Report OilyWragg September 16, 2025 1:12 PM BST
Today 7.30    Bizarre Law    Wolverhampton (LH)    11    Murphy, Oisin    4/1JF
Report top2rated September 17, 2025 1:43 PM BST
Report OilyWragg September 18, 2025 4:08 PM BST
Oooops a bit late..........

Wedonttelllies (IRE)    3.57 Kempton    3/1
Reignman    4.27 Kempton    5/1
Encircle (IRE)    5.02 Kempton    13/2
Acclaimed Freedom    6.30 Chelmsford City    6/4
Sams Hope    8.00 Chelmsford City    5/4
Report OilyWragg September 18, 2025 4:09 PM BST
Cheers for that top2rated Happy
Report OilyWragg September 18, 2025 4:10 PM BST
Those two courses show a profit for everything by the looks of it!!
Report OilyWragg September 18, 2025 4:11 PM BST
Cool shows a ROI of over 12% just backing everything at Bfsp over 5,6,7 and 8f!
Report OilyWragg September 19, 2025 12:08 PM BST
Gwens Girl    5.44 Newcastle    4/1
Startled Lady    5.44 Newcastle    7/2
Spanish Temptress (IRE)    6.00 Dundalk    17/2
Sassy Glory (IRE)    6.45 Newcastle    7/4
Report OilyWragg September 19, 2025 1:31 PM BST
Updated...

Gwens Girl    5.44 Newcastle    4/1
Startled Lady    5.44 Newcastle    4/1
Green Icon (FR)    6.00 Dundalk    11/1
Spanish Temptress (IRE)    6.00 Dundalk    17/2
Punk Poet (IRE)    6.30 Dundalk    4/1
Sayfa Fad (IRE)    6.30 Dundalk    10/1
Sassy Glory (IRE)    6.45 Newcastle    15/8
Report OilyWragg September 22, 2025 11:55 AM BST
Sice my last post there have ben a further 4 losers.
Report OilyWragg September 22, 2025 11:56 AM BST
Today 5.00    Lapidarist    Wolverhampton (LH)    12    15/2   
Today 7.00    Backspin (IRE)    Wolverhampton (LH)    12    11/4F   
Today 7.00    Supreme King     Wolverhampton (LH)    12    8/1
Report OilyWragg September 24, 2025 1:23 PM BST
Hilltop    5.05 Kempton    15/8
Tennessee Gold (FR)    6.40 Kempton    17/2
Kracking    7.40 Kempton    8/1
Report OilyWragg September 26, 2025 5:04 PM BST
Ze Do Asfalto (IRE)    5.15 Dundalk    9/2
Pinball Wizard (IRE)    6.15 Dundalk    9/2
The Bog Bank (IRE)    6.15 Dundalk    11/1
Amanirenas (IRE)    6.45 Dundalk    8/1
Colugo (IRE)    6.45 Dundalk    9/1
Report OilyWragg September 26, 2025 5:06 PM BST
Current losing run is 16!! Cant see this lasting beyond the end of the month.
Report OilyWragg September 28, 2025 12:00 PM BST
Kings Merchant    2.13 Newcastle    9/1
Signcastle City (IRE)    6.15 Newcastle    8/1
War Howl (IRE)    6.15 Newcastle    7/2
Akkadian Thunder    6.45 Newcastle    9/2
Grand Traverse (IRE)    6.45 Newcastle    9/1
Report The Management September 29, 2025 9:31 AM BST
18:15 & 18:45 both won by Trap 1 (7.40 & 12.50 BFSP's) Sad
Report top2rated September 29, 2025 9:53 AM BST
Furthermore, there were just the two 5f races yesterday, both at Ffos Las.

15:05 & 16:15 both won by Trap 1 (Both 9/4 ISPs & 3.50 BFSPs)
Report OilyWragg September 29, 2025 3:03 PM BST
Cheers lads, much appreciated info. Last day for this 'trial' then I'll move on to something else, sadly this one just isnt working at all Sad

Today 6.30    After Love (IRE)    Southwell (LH)    13    Loughnane, Mr Billy    4/1F    Boughey, George
Today 6.30    Improve Your Move (IRE)    Southwell (LH)    13    Levey, S M    11/1    Butler, John
Today 7.30    Cuban Fiesta    Southwell (LH)    14    Dawson, R    9/1    Quinn, Denis P
Today 8.30    Darn Hot Time (IRE)    Southwell (LH)    12    Dawson, R    10/1    Appleby, M
Report The Management October 4, 2025 5:29 PM BST
The Fibresand used to produce some harrowing results (pun intended) over 5f at Southwell and is sadly missed.

But still the 19:45 on Friday (the only 5f handicap) was won by T1.

For the more ambitious, they actually finished: T1 x T2 x T3 (4/1 x 9/1 x 100/1) for a £2304 Tricast divi Shocked
Report The Management October 8, 2025 8:51 AM BST
Just an observation.

There were 6 Handicaps at Southwell last night and 5 of them went to the horse drawn highest. BFSP's were:

40.00 1st
8.60  1st
42.25 4th
4.60  1st
6.60  1st
3.65  1st

The exception was the 5f race where the highest drawn runner certainly outran her odds to finish 4th in a race (as is the recent trend at 5f) that was dominated by the low drawn runners.

I'm not suggesting for one minute that those 5 winners had a draw advantage (I'm only really interested in the 5f handicaps there with 10+ runners myself) - but a nice draw-related coincidence and a cracking return for anybody daft enough to do a multiple.
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