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Escapee
07 Aug 24 17:13
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Trump 2.0--2.02
Harris 2.1--2.12

Trump's odds continue to slide since Biden stepped aside and AFAIK, Harris is now leading in the polls.

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By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 07 Aug 24 21:25
Hopefully this one won't get deleted.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 07 Aug 24 21:51
Let's hope some more people from the other Election threads find this hiding spot incase BF are killing off the Politics forum.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 07 Aug 24 22:21
Trump 2.02--2.04
Harris 2.08--2.10
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:10
2.06.... choo x 2

Times claiming there was a trump staffer rebellion after the black journalist disaster
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:12
Parity!!!
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:14
And it flipped for a second there

The only way back for the reds is to get rid of trump.  But how can they do that?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:15
Official flip
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:29
Vance been stalking kamala round the airport today. Creepy
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 07 Aug 24 23:30
EVERYTHING was going right for Trump for a while. And now he hasn't had a positive media day since Biden stepped down.
Still early in the race and I can still see things turn around, but it feels like need something to go wrong for the DEMS (some big controversy or scandal or a bad performance from Harris) for this to turn around at the moment.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:34
Such is the bad smell around trump and vance i don't think the dems really need to do that much
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:35
So the problems are intrinsic. Two bad candidates  vs two humans
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 07 Aug 24 23:38

Aug 7, 2024 -- 5:34PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Such is the bad smell around trump and vance i don't think the dems really need to do that much


For now it feels they just need to stay the course, hence why Harris went for the safer pick (although from what I've seen Walz is almost as strong as Shapiro), whereas the GOP feels a bit in tilt mode. But weird things happen in Politics, in 2020 it felt like Trump was cruising to victory and then covid changed everything.

By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 07 Aug 24 23:58
Walz is calmer and less shouty than shapiro, better choice in my book

Audio unearthed of trump praising walz, and it's quite fulsome praise!
By:
Escapee
When: 08 Aug 24 00:10
Trump 2.06
Harris 2.04

monumental moment, first time Dem candidate is shorter odds than Trump

From an advertising perspective Kamala exudes smiles, Trump exudes Grumpy Whiney old man.
It's a slam dunk, smiles sell so much better.
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 00:14
ah wondered where you had all gone Excited
By:
edy
When: 08 Aug 24 00:15
DeSantis tried to exude smiles in contrast to Trump, but the circumstance that he probably had never worked on his smiling before he turned 45 kind of backfired on him and grumpy won over smiles. Grin
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 00:17
Trump 2.06
Harris 2.04

monumental moment, first time Dem candidate is shorter odds than Trump


In a while. In recent times Biden was shorter than Trump after Trump got his verdict.
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 00:20
They did such a good job of destroying DeSantis early but they cant lay a glove on Kamala or Tim.
The Tim drank a gallon of horse semen and had to have his stomach pumped doesn't seem to be gaining traction.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 08 Aug 24 00:43
How long before the calls for trump to go start?

I'm going with Melania being first
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 08 Aug 24 00:44
Polymarket has flipped too
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 08 Aug 24 00:46
That video of all the kids hugging Walz is probably the most positive footage of a politician I've ever seen.  Tremendous
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 00:54
I see no chance of Trump withdrawing as there is too much at stake for him, but if he wanted to do so with some grace he could say he had a talk with the family and do some sob story about one of his grandkids saying they don't want grandpa to be shot again. But too much at stake so won't happen. I think the market is pricing in him withdrawing a bit as the Haley odds can't be explained just by the possibility of him being shot again.
By:
Escapee
When: 08 Aug 24 00:59

How long before the calls for trump to go start?


I've chucked a tenner on Vance at 300 (There's a voice in my head saying stick a grand on itCrazy)


There's a few scenario's where Trump is stepped down, (and wouldn't it be fun Laugh)

By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 01:08
I had some 1000 lay on DeSantis matched earlier that I hadn't cancelled. I can't see Trump dropping out but Im seeing people asking questions about where he is, his schedule is very light the next week or 2, and he is 78.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:08
I think it will go to open nomination if Trump steps down before the election, and if so I find it very unlike the GOP will pick Vance. If Trump steps down after the election, then Vance becomes president if Trump has won it, but if so there wouldn't be any reason for Trump to resign. So if I have understood things correctly, backing Vance is almost throwing money away with your only hope being Trump getting elected and something then happens to Trump.
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 01:15
Trump or his allies in the RNC would pick the successor. But Vance is the only option from September onwards. Ballots would have been sent out with his and Trump's name on, anyone else would have to be wrote in and would be up against that Trump/Vance option as well as Harris, plus campaign funds would be non transferable. With Vance you could get a rumour about Trump's health too, Pence was matched at 24 when Trump had covid, although that was serious.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:15
Is Trump gonna be saved from his charges if someone else from the GOP wins the election, and could pardon him for instance, or would he actually need to become president himself to get out of his mess?
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:18
ah ok, then Vance at 300 is a decent hedge. This is good news for me as I backed him earlier as a hedge if something goes wrong with Trump, and thought I had done my money but then I just need Trump to hang on til September then.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:19
Mine was at 150 actually but that was before all the catladies comments etc.
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 01:21
Yeah anyone can pardon him. I'm on Vance too from laying everyone else, hoping he might come in a bit when he is the only option left.
By:
tobermory
When: 08 Aug 24 01:21
Trump is still on course to win..

More chance of Kamala giving an interview than Trump withdrawing.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:25
I thought Vance was pretty funny at the airport, but the GOP does themselves no favors by going to war with the press. Although I do understand their frustration.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:32
Harris has gone from 2.18 to 2 in the past 24 hrs or so, but in the popular vote winner from 1.3 to 1.33.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 08 Aug 24 01:37
but fairly low volume in popular winner market.
By:
Escapee
When: 08 Aug 24 01:38
1.28--1.29 on here
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 01:40
I think the popular vote is catching a lot of people out this cycle. A lot of the models are saying Harris only needs a 1.5-2.5 national lead to win the electoral college. Biden only just scraped it with a 4.5% national advantage in 2020.

Nate Silvers odds
winner
Harris 1.89
Trump 2.14

Popular vote
Harris 1.53
Trump 2.88
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 01:41
graphic is on there

.https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1821313118997205469
By:
blank
When: 08 Aug 24 06:29
New Marquette National poll (A+), July 24-Aug 1 LV

Kamala Harris 53%
Donald Trump 47%

Kamala Harris 50%
Donald Trump 42%
Kennedy Jr. 6%


Wow good pollster
By:
tobermory
When: 08 Aug 24 07:07
Nikki Haley last price matched 70 Laugh
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