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By:
happysandwich
When: 04 Feb 22 16:46
Shane,

Nocte Volatus looked like it was going to get beaten going to the last hurdle before falling anyway.

Good luck with the next one.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 05 Feb 22 03:29
Looked that way happy, 2 odds on so 1 winner expected.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 05 Feb 22 03:29
Profit £44
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 05 Feb 22 03:44
Facile Vega - 4.25 Leop @1.84 to win £11
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 05 Feb 22 03:52
The Rules

There will be 8 fortnightly rounds, 16 weeks in total.
Each round and each week within rounds will begin on a Sunday and finish on a Saturday.
Each team will have 8 selections per week, one from each player, duplicate selections are allowed but no duplicate selections within teams at any time. Players must use their 1 selection per week, it cannot be carried over to the other week in the round.
10pts win or 5pts EW on British, Irish & French racing, selected any day, Sunday through Saturday, the week ends on the last Saturday race. If selection is posted without specifying stake then 10pts win assumed.
Settled at SP, EW terms as industry standard.
Selections must be posted before scheduled race time. On Saturdays there will be a 3pm cut-off for selections, that is you may pick in any race after that but it has to be posted by 3pm.
Once you have posted a selection you are not allowed to change it or the stake, unless it becomes a non-runner or is a duplicate.
Non Runners - that team member may choose again for that week.
If you are selecting in a race on Saturday, in the event of a non-runner, you will automatically have 10pts win on the fav in the same race as your selection.
However, you may replace your non-runner with any new selection, provided you do so prior to the race time of the original selection and adhere to the Saturday 3pm cut-off.
If your selection runs after the 3pm Saturday cut-off, and the race in question is abandoned, you will automatically have 10pts Win on the favourite in the next available race at whichever meeting, or in the event of no such races available, it will go on the immediately previous race run.
If there are jt or co-favs then lowest racecard no. is chosen.
Reserve selections are not allowed, nor is posting "just-in-case"  selections for team mates that may or may not turn up.

Wildcards are available to cover holiday or other absence and covering for non-runners.
Team captains will be responsible for managing any wildcards required, there are no restrictions on their use, but please try and share them around so that no one individual is always claiming them. Please also name who the wildcard is for when posting.

Teams will start the week from a baseline of 0pts. This equates to 8 losing selections and/or non-selections.
Subsequent scores will be added to this baseline plus return of the winning part of the stake (10pts for win and EW winner, 5pts for EW placed). All scores count.
Scores will be accumulated through the fortnight, there will be no points awarded for weekly finishing positions.

Points structure for overall comp:
Fortnightly winners will receive 12pts, runners-up - 8pts, 3rd - 6pts, 4th - 4pts, 5th - 3pts, 6th - 2pts, 7th - 1pt


Competition schedule:

Round 1 - 27 Feb to 12 Mar
Round 2 - 13 Mar to 26 Mar
Round 3 - 27 Mar to 09 Apr
Round 4 - 10 Apr to 23 Apr
Round 5 - 24 Apr to 07 May
Round 6 - 08 May to 21 May
Round 7 - 22 May to 04 Jun
Round 8 - 05 Jun to 18 Jun
By:
Escapee
When: 05 Feb 22 13:49
"Facile Vega - 4.25 Leop @1.84 to win £11"


lets see what this looks like with my new toy.

Good luck



Leopardstown  16:25 -- 2m Grd2 INHF                      £52,681 Matched


Facile Vega       d:41 1.67 1.68 1.69   1.7   1.72   1.73   £32,295
F: 1            a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr P. W. Mullins / W. P. Mullins   £68 £234 £153     £58 £54 £370  
Itswhatunitesus       d:63 4.7 4.8 4.9   5   5.1   5.2   £11,786
F: 1            a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr J. J. Codd / Gordon Elliott   £52 £79 £81     £161 £3 £13  
Sandor Clegane       d:62 11.5 12 12.5   13.5   14   15   £3,422
F: 1            a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr B. O'Neill / Paul Nolan   £19 £4 £5     £7 £51 £18  
The Big Doyen       d:83 12.5 13 13.5   14.5   15   15.5   £3,519
F: 11           a:5 w:12-0 or:   Mr D. O'Connor / Peter Fahey   £6 £15 £14     £5 £13 £16  
Embassy Gardens       d:40 30 32 34   38   40   42   £849
F: 1            a:6 w:11-11 or:   Miss J. Townend / W. P. Mullins   £18 £6 £8     £4 £8 £13  
Carnfunnock       d:81 23 28 40   50   55   60   £593
F: 31           a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr B. G. Crawford / Stuart Crawford   £4 £4 £8     £9 £5 £4  
Da Capo Glory       d:105 100 110 140   180   200   970   £218
F: 3-51         a:5 w:11-11 or:   Mr D. Allen / P. Butler   £3 £3 £4     £25 £6 £7  
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 05 Feb 22 23:15
Old Port - 3.25 Kemp @2.2

Profit £34
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 05 Feb 22 23:17
La Tihaty - 4.00 Kemp @2.02
By:
Escapee
When: 06 Feb 22 13:18
Good luck


Kempton  15:25 -- 1m3f Hcap                      £14,988 Matched


4 (3)   Old Port       d:15 2.52 2.54 2.56   2.6   2.62   2.64   £7,499
F: 533-11       a:4 w:9-4 or:83   George Downing / David Evans   £23 £50 £15     £8 £12 £11  
3 (2)   Prince Of Harts       d:11 4.2 4.3 4.4   4.5   4.6   4.7   £1,822
F: 35233-1      a:6 w:9-7 or:85   Ross Coakley / Rod Millman   £30 £11 £49     £17 £97 £169  
1 (4)   Anythingtoday       d:15 7.6 7.8 8   8.2   8.4   8.6   £3,472
F: 31100-9      a:8 w:9-13 or:91   Harry Davies(7) / George Boughey   £129 £45 £45     £35 £6 £16  
7 (6)   Precisely       d:15 9.8 10 10.5   12   12.5   13   £805
F: 26013-8      a:5 w:8-12 or:76   Luke Morris / John Butler   £6 £10 £7     £18 £5 £6  
2 (7)   Clap Your Hands       d:20 12 12.5 13   13.5   14   15   £730
F: 115/3-3      a:6 w:9-10 or:88   Callum Shepherd / David Simcock   £12 £11 £17     £19 £5 £3  
6 (5)   Alternative Fact       d:123 13.5 14 14.5   15   15.5   16   £466
F: 986056-      a:7 w:9-3 or:81   Hollie Doyle / Alan King   £13 £9 £9     £3 £15 £23  
5 (1)   Affwonn       d:168 27 28 29   32   34   42   £195
F: 1/40-        a:5 w:9-4 or:82   Daniel Muscutt / Alexandra Dunn   £5 £5 £10     £3 £14 £6  



and




Kempton  16:00 -- 1m Hcap                      £16,938 Matched


3 (1)   La Tihaty       d:32 1.97 1.98 1.99   2   2.04   2.06   £10,316
F: 2/11-1       a:4 w:8-11 or:95   Jack Mitchell / Roger Varian   £15 £27 £16     £192 £31 £23  
4 (3)   Karibana       d:130 5.8 5.9 6   6.2   6.4   6.6   £2,394
F: 100332-      a:5 w:8-11 or:95   George Rooke(3) / Richard Hughes   £13 £29 £17     £24 £28 £157  
1 (8)   Misty Grey       d:42 7.8 8.2 8.4   8.6   8.8   9   £1,054
F: 11/3421-     a:5 w:9-8 or:106   Richard Kingscote / Tom Dascombe   £6 £10 £11     £4 £14 £9  
7 (10)   Bugle Major       d:130 15 15.5 16   17   17.5   18   £1,213
F: 505226-      a:7 w:8-6 or:90   Kieran O'Neill / Richard Hughes   £15 £4 £15     £6 £3 £26  
8 (5)   On A Session       d:19 16.5 17 17.5   19   19.5   21   £728
F: 70247-6      a:6 w:8-5 or:89   Hollie Doyle / David Barron   £4 £4 £4     £7 £6 £2  
5 (9)   Revolutionise       d:30 16.5 17.5 18   18.5   19   19.5   £641
F: 33278-2      a:6 w:8-9 or:93   Marco Ghiani / Stuart Williams   £5 £14 £3     £6 £2 £4  
9 (6)   Soar Above       d:28 30 32 36   38   40   42   £294
F: 05170-6      a:7 w:8-3 or:87   Laura Pearson(3) / John Butler   £3 £3 £9     £2 £2 £4  
2 (4)   Oh This Is Us       d:99 40 42 44   50   55   60   £244
F: 084409-      a:9 w:9-7 or:105   Alec Voikhansky(7) / Richard Hannon   £3 £2 £4     £7 £11 £5  
6 (2)   Seventh Kingdom       d:20 70 85 95   150   260   550   £53
F: 34/337-8     a:4 w:8-6 or:90   Callum Shepherd / Jamie Osborne   £7 £2 £5     £6 £2 £3  
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 06 Feb 22 15:56
Not a good start to the day
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 Feb 22 17:38
Sorry, am I missing something here? First of all, what is the point of this thread being on here instead of the horse racing forum? Secondly, the OP has said he has had 30/40 "methods" which have all lost, so why does he think that just laying short priced favourites at random can be a winning system long term? It can't.
By:
Escapee
When: 07 Feb 22 12:06
From the imitation game film:

the admiral is interviewing Turing, and telling him.

"The Polish, French, Americans and every goddamn boffin we have think
it can't be done (Decipher Enigma)".

Good, So give it to me then and we'll know for sure.

Happy





I know it can be done.
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 Feb 22 14:04
Not by laying an endless stream of short priced favourites and hoping to get lucky, it can't.
By:
swift-tuttle
When: 24 Jun 22 16:51
I think you were on the right track Shane but my preference would have been to include an in-running back for a few ticks above the lay price. The back stake  not intended to 'green up' but to reduce potential losses on the lay thereby securing a better lay price for less return.
The Art Of Legging says that shorties must be laid but it also says that one horse lays are not the answer. So my suggestion or laying another horse in the same race is worth considering.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Jun 22 20:38
Thanks for the advice st. I`ve given up on laying for a while.

Working on 2 backing systems last 4/5 months.
Doing well so far, been my selections in naps comp, 3 months
in profit to sp, small profit so far this month.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Jun 22 20:39
I noticed you impressive total this month Cool
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Jun 22 20:39
* your
By:
swift-tuttle
When: 24 Jun 22 20:56
Best of luck Shane
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Jun 22 21:49
Working on a Lucky 15 ststen at moment CrazyCrazyCrazy
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Jun 22 21:49
system, i need glasses.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 24 Jun 22 21:59
3.10 Ches - Gabrial The Devil
3.30 Newc - Who Dares Wins
4.38 Newc - Safe Voyage
6.15 Ling - Power On

Lucky 15
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 30 Jun 22 14:29
Backing now 4 from 4 months in profit.

New month tomorrow. I`ll have a good go at winning it.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 30 Jun 22 14:30
Friday:

Mobashr - 6.38 Haydock
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 30 Jun 22 14:34
I`m expecting between 16`s to 25/1
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 02 Jul 22 03:53
Swayze - 1.35 Haydock
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 29 Nov 22 21:04
Another profitable month to sp, as per Div 1 i naps comp.

100% backs now, im hopeless at laying.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 29 Nov 22 21:06
Pistoletto - 7.20 Kemp

12`s was available earlier, now best 7`s
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 29 Nov 22 21:07
Jack Darcy - 7.50 Kemp
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