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France, Italy, Spain all similarly screwed i think? Greece similar soon? Turkey illegal?
Where can the site still be accessed with full functionality, as if i was in UK?
Thanks
Where can the site still be accessed with full functionality, as if i was in UK?
Thanks
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add germany to your list....theres a dwindling band of countries that many of us dream of retiring to and playing betfair sadly
Check out the thread in this forum called "Betfair Site Availability Around The World WIKI". About halfway down the first page.
Complaint over new Greek gambling law
Article | October 4, 2011 - 12:19pm
The Remote Gambling Association (RGA) has lodged a complaint with the European Commission regarding the legality of new gambling legislation in Greece.
If allowed to stand, the legislation will effectively provide OPAP, the largest gambling association in Greece, a favourable position in terms of taxation.
The Greek government currently owns 34% of OPAP, which is currently the only gambling organisation allowed to offer sports betting and lottery products to Greek consumers.
The new law requires all online gambling organisations to pay a 30% gross profit tax on gambling products, something that OPAP would be exempt from, as it is an offline organisation. This puts Greek taxation on online gambling much higher than many other countries; only Spain's 25% taxation laws come close.
The law also requires online associations to impose a 10% withholding tax on all of their customers winnings, but OPAP's consumers are only taxed if their winnings are over €100.
The RGA's case revolves around the Greek government's inability to objectively justify the new tax, along with the fact that most European online gambling sites impose a lower tax than their offline counterparts. “Remote operators wish to obtain licences in Greece and to continue to offer Greek consumers competitive and well-regulated products,” Clive Hawkswood, Chief Executive of the RGA, said. “However the current unjustified fiscal favouritism being afforded to OPAP makes this extremely difficult and we urge the European Commission to investigate the new legislation for being in breach of State aid rules.”
Hawskwood also stressed that the RGA was not trying to suggest equal taxation for both gambling mediums, just that the new tax requirements be justified by the proper authorities.
“We are fully aware of the fiscal pressures on the Greek authorities at present, but they do not justify the imposition of anti-competitive tax provisions which benefit the existing monopoly gambling provider over private online operators soon to be licensed in Greece”, Hawswood went on to say. “Not only does such action not conform with EU State aid rules, but if implemented, it will have a damaging impact on the private sector and associated growth and employment opportunities, as well as curbing competition and consumer choice.”
Article | October 4, 2011 - 12:19pm
The Remote Gambling Association (RGA) has lodged a complaint with the European Commission regarding the legality of new gambling legislation in Greece.
If allowed to stand, the legislation will effectively provide OPAP, the largest gambling association in Greece, a favourable position in terms of taxation.
The Greek government currently owns 34% of OPAP, which is currently the only gambling organisation allowed to offer sports betting and lottery products to Greek consumers.
The new law requires all online gambling organisations to pay a 30% gross profit tax on gambling products, something that OPAP would be exempt from, as it is an offline organisation. This puts Greek taxation on online gambling much higher than many other countries; only Spain's 25% taxation laws come close.
The law also requires online associations to impose a 10% withholding tax on all of their customers winnings, but OPAP's consumers are only taxed if their winnings are over €100.
The RGA's case revolves around the Greek government's inability to objectively justify the new tax, along with the fact that most European online gambling sites impose a lower tax than their offline counterparts. “Remote operators wish to obtain licences in Greece and to continue to offer Greek consumers competitive and well-regulated products,” Clive Hawkswood, Chief Executive of the RGA, said. “However the current unjustified fiscal favouritism being afforded to OPAP makes this extremely difficult and we urge the European Commission to investigate the new legislation for being in breach of State aid rules.”
Hawskwood also stressed that the RGA was not trying to suggest equal taxation for both gambling mediums, just that the new tax requirements be justified by the proper authorities.
“We are fully aware of the fiscal pressures on the Greek authorities at present, but they do not justify the imposition of anti-competitive tax provisions which benefit the existing monopoly gambling provider over private online operators soon to be licensed in Greece”, Hawswood went on to say. “Not only does such action not conform with EU State aid rules, but if implemented, it will have a damaging impact on the private sector and associated growth and employment opportunities, as well as curbing competition and consumer choice.”
A technophobe question( apologies in advance).
I read somewhere that all these restictions in these countries can be very simply and straightforwardly circumvented by the use of remote servers or vpns or something like that ( can't remember exactly what the terminology was).
Anyone care to elaborate on this on here ?
Or is it something that can't be discusssed openly ?
If so, then at the very least, could someone confirm whether it is difficult or easy to set up.
And more importantly is it worth all the effort, in that it works without any risks or problems.
I read somewhere that all these restictions in these countries can be very simply and straightforwardly circumvented by the use of remote servers or vpns or something like that ( can't remember exactly what the terminology was).
Anyone care to elaborate on this on here ?
Or is it something that can't be discusssed openly ?
If so, then at the very least, could someone confirm whether it is difficult or easy to set up.
And more importantly is it worth all the effort, in that it works without any risks or problems.
Fairly easy to set up from a technical perspective but :-
1. You will be breaking the law in the country you are in
2. You will be in breach of Betfairs terms and conditions
1. You will be breaking the law in the country you are in
2. You will be in breach of Betfairs terms and conditions
Any country in which in play gambling is untaxed and in which gambling is legal is the easy answer.
In some countries of course, gambling is illegal yet online gambling with foreign websites is allowed.
What I meant was that as long as I didn't shout from the rooftops what I was doing, would anyone know that I was using a remote server to gamble, illegally or illegally ?
Obviously I'm not doing it currently or even thinking of doing it, or I wouldn't be on here talking about it so brazenly.
I just have a technophobe's interest in the matter generally.
I just have a technophobe's interest in the matter generally.
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