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23 May 12
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On the golf you can before commission get 12 for Lee Westwood and 13 for McIlroy.
Switch to fixed odds and you are offered 10 for either
Switch to fixed odds and you are offered 10 for either
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Just saw that a few players are far better oss on the fixed odds site.
The spread on Mannassero on the exchange is 34 - 36. The fixed odds site have him as 46. I tried to back him for a few hundred quid, but got the message " The stake exceeds the maximum for this selection." I then tried with a 100 quid and got the same message. I kept lowering my stake all the way down to the minimum and even then I got the same message  |
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The example they give on the service page is the Champions League final, you can switch from a 100% exchange book to a 109% fixed odds book. Why would anyone want to do that? Is the fixed odds commission free?
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just had a look an an early market which betfair say is not so good on the exchange.
France v England euro 2012 match odds france 2.8 exchange........2.62 fixed odds england 2.9 exchange .......2.62 fixed odds draw 3.3 exchange .......3.1 fixed odds The adverts use to say 20% better odds on Betfair, but now they can say x% worse odds on betfair. Why did they employ a crack team of odds compilers at great expense when this is all they can come up with. It looks like betfair do not want to be the home of the bookies mug punter, but they do want to be the home of the .. SUPER MUG PUNTER  |
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@RichWill If you're someone who's paying 20% premium charge it would make sense. And yes, I understand it's commission free.
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If someones paying PC do you really think they'd be accepting decent amounts though basket? I'd imagine they'll be limiting winning exchanges punters quicker than 365
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read eddie's post, i am sure he is a pc payer, they have already limited him, in fact they have limited him to zero.
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The following bets could not be placed
Back (Bet For) Odds Stake Profit Peru v Nigeria Peru Match Odds 1.8 £100.00 £80.00 The stake exceeds the maximum for this selection. What ! Lets try 50 The following bets could not be placed Back (Bet For) Odds Stake Profit Peru v Nigeria Peru Match Odds 1.8 £50.00 £40.00 The stake exceeds the maximum for this selection. Peru v Nigeria Peru Match Odds 1.8 £10.00 £8.00 Bet Ref: O/007883x/0000001 Bet matched: 15:55 23-May Yay |
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Peru now 1.75
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@Ghetto Joe We'll have to wait and see I suppose, although I do share your doubts. For those PC payers who are primarily traders, Betfair may take a more bullish stance re taking decent-size straight up bets. But that also remains to be seen.
With regards the fixed odds product as a whole, it's clearly still in test stages - available liquidity is being kept at artificially low levels so as not to expose Betfair too much during a time when there will be very few users. If it ends up doing what it says it will (providing liquidity to unformed, edge markets) it will be an interesting proposition. |
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Should stick to trading crack in my opinion.
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Your £10 has forced the sportsbook to slash their odds to 1.7 now, modk . Luckily the exchange is holding firm at 1.79/1.8, the firms must be quaking in their boots with Betfair offering 110% books
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How do you get to the fixed odds site - I could do with a laugh.
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i do hope that there are very clear distinctions made when they choose to advertise their sportsbook products, clearly making explicit distinctions and reference to which one of their two products offers the value they consider to be their usp.
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Dstyle look at their advert for fixed odds on this site. Hopefully the advert will change, but currently it is very misleading about the value of their fixed odds. Take a look at their correct score comparisons between the exchange and fixed odds. It implies that their may be good value with their fixed odds, when in reality they offer poor value with their over rounds.
I can see the traditional bookmakers having a field day with their own adverts comparing betfair to them, with just as vague claims, using betfair fixed odds to snipe at the brand of betfair and it's exchanges. |
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expect that one day betfair will make the fixed odds market more accessible to mug punters leaving the exchange for the pros
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But exchange need mug punters- need their bets... Why do they need that? It's clearly means less bet on exchange...
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not if they funnel the fixed odds bets through to the exchange
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and if they do that, does anyone think the fixed odds site will pay commission on their exchange bets?
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as i've said before, i'm fascinated to see if there are any interdependencies between the two products.
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Agree with Henok.Its pretty obvious by now that they want to morph into a sportsbook without saying as much.They will make the exchange part more unusable, complex and uninviting to newbies as they possibly can.IMO.
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The amusing bit will happen when they knacker up the liquidity on the exchange and don't know how to price up their fixed odds because there's nothing left to nick.
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They seem to think this chap from Laddies is capable of taking on the world with his innovative algorithms.
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They've obviously never used Laddies.
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Where is it?
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You can only access it off the beta site. It's crap odds just like b etdaq's 1bet. I bet they limit in next to no time aswell.
Shame there's not many pro bookmakers about. |
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You need to use Beta to see it and it's not in use for all markets.
It's there in the winners market for BMW PGA Championship in golf. It's also there for (some) football matches. |
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Are you sure they aren't just copying Bodog's prices and reducing them by 1%?
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That's all the square books do, they copy each others odds. Ban winners, allow the mug punters and promote multiples which are the most unlikely to win bets. Damn man.
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I'm looking at the prices for Georgia vs Turkey and have looked at 5 markets so far. Worse (generally) or the same odds (usually) than Bodog on every single outcome. I'm using Bodog as an example as imo its the worst fixed odds betting company there is.
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I instinctively knew Bodog was the benchmark
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I instinctively knew Bodog was the benchmark
This is one of the best posts I've ever seen |
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on in a fair amount of the tennis.
monfils/baker 1.29/1.3 on the exchange 1.2/1.31 on the fixed odds. which would seem to indicate that they're not pumping into the exchange and that they're pricing up in line with bookies who all seem to have monfils much shorter than here at the moment. |
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Massive margins. 116% market on the set betting in that match.
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I think Pinnacle Sports is safe for the time being. |
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Maybe all us cynics have this wrong, perhaps they're offering the worst prices in the industry to drive people into the exchange
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I'm trying to back a player e/w in the golf fixed odds. Unable. Whats going on here?
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I tried betting on a selection, and the maximum I was allowed was £2.
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Never been e/w markets on Betfair and I don't think this fixed odds has been added to the golf place markets yet.
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I've found one market where they are pricing up a book where the exchange is empty so far.
Football->Poland v Slovakia->Correct Score. The exchange has 2.2 for all selections, the fixed odds is priced up to 140% (so hardly taking much risk here). Just tried to place a £11 bet and it got knocked back  |