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London Clubs (Harrahs) have recently brought in double-zero roulette at a number of
their casinos and the players seem oblivious to the bad returns they are getting.
Two questions;
How did the gambling commission let this obvious rip-off through?
How long will it be before we see double-zero roulette in the betting shops?
their casinos and the players seem oblivious to the bad returns they are getting.
Two questions;
How did the gambling commission let this obvious rip-off through?
How long will it be before we see double-zero roulette in the betting shops?
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its already in the betting shops. there is a double zero roulette game and one cunningly disguised as 'key roulettre' or something like that where you bet on the other 'zero' to win x20, x30, x40, x50, the key pot, stuff like that
its all one big con |
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I had no idea it was already in the shops (that's maybe because I stand
the game!). I would like to know the what the Gambling Commission has to say about this. I may be wrong, but I thought that in the old days no casino house edge was to exceed 5%. But it looks like all new rule changes are now in the operators favour with little, or no consideration, to the punters. |
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that may be the case. i think the thing is though as its still computerised the payout can still be technically '96%' or whatever they claim. complete codswallop if u ask me, ive done thousands on those machines. i refuse to play them now.
the edge with a double roulette for the casino is 2 out of the 38 numbers isnt it? that would make the house edge 5.263%. wonder if there was any leeway anyway with the 5%? |
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It just means you lose your money quicker than you
previously did. |
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kenilworth,
We know that. Who made the betting shops lower the number of spins per minute? Then the betting shops go and DOUBLE the win-rate by changing the odds! |
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Al, the GC don't like talking with their mouths full.
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Look on the bright side, at least you have twice the amount of winning backing the zero....
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There aint many who lose on the roulette
All the stories in the town are of people winning thousands  |
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Re-arrange the following words to find a solution to your query: Commission The not Gambling give do fck not a
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i hear people mention roulette and i feel sorry for them
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1 too many 'nots' dave
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With single 'zero' roulette - when zero comes up all the inside and outside bets (apart from the ones that have bet on zero) lose.
With double 'zero' roulette - when 'zero' or 'double zero' anyone betting on the outside bets (ie: things like 1st Dozen, Odds/Even, Red/Black etc) only lose half their bet. This being the general rule applied to a 'double zero' game commonly referred to as 'American Roulette' .... |
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undern
undern 09 May 12 00:01 Joined: 05 Jul 05 | Topic/replies: 14,013 | Blogger: undern's blog With single 'zero' roulette - when zero comes up all the inside and outside bets (apart from the ones that have bet on zero) lose. I may have misunderstood your post undern, but as far as I'm aware, if the wheel has one zero and it comes up zero, I'm pretty sure that if you back red or black, odds or evens, or the first 18 or 19 to 30, you lose half your stake??? |
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*whereas, the first, second, third dozen, you lose the lot.
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on the machine in the bookies with the 1 zero, if the zero comes up you lose the lot on everything bar money you actually had on the zero
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No Stewarty b - with single 'zero' games all the outside bets (red/black, odds/even, dozens, columns etc) all lose ....
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undern, I've been to a few casinos where you on single zero tables only lose half your stake on the even bets when zero comes up, just as stewarty said.
I think you lose all your stake in this case on most casinos though. |
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I assure you that the standard rules is for all the outside bets to lose .. but of course some casino might/will alter this to get you to play more ...
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I'll phone my local casino this weekend and ask them. (I think they're owned by the bingo group now, Gala.) It's a simple yes or no.
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http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/roulette.html
its obviously optional, but years ago I assure you that in the uk one zero and only losing half stake was the norm. |
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http://glasgow.aleacasinos.com/casino-game-details/roulette --- this is a large group and they only take half.
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Think it's French Roulette where you get half your stake back on even money shots if it lands on zero. Called La Partage rule or summat. Doesn't apply to all types of roulette.
I could be completely wrong, but that's how I understand it. |
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no its all called american roulette, although ironically in america they have the double zero.
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It sounds simply like a lot of European Roulette - where single zero layouts they used to take all outside bets ... are now looking to offer something back to the punters ... hence in some casino groups only taking half-bets.
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It sounds simply like a lot of European Roulette - where single zero layouts they used to take all outside bets ... are now looking to offer something back to the punters ... hence in some casino groups only taking half-bets.
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This information may be inaccurate as it is taken from an old book.
In American Roulette,the single trial probability of success (defined as the probability of occurrence renormalized with respect to an even payoff) of 0.4737 ( a house take of 5.623%) holds for all classes of wagers except the five number bet,which is inferior. For European Roulette,the house take on the number bets is 2.703 %;a bet on high low,odd even,or red black does not lose if the ball drops into the 0 slot.In that event,the stake is declared "in prison" and may be recovered if the succeeding outcome matches that of the bet. Thus the even payoff bets offer a higher probability of success ( a house take of only 1.388%). In any case,the mathematical expectation of all Roulette wagers is negative,and the game is therefore always unfavourable to those players possessing an objective utility function. |
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I do hope that you all possess an "an objective utility function".
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