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14 Feb 12
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I'm popping over to the Caribbean next month and may have a flutter on Betfair when over there. However, I'm staying in a hotel and so I'm assuming the internet connection won't be the most secure.
I'll be using my own laptop and connecting to the net in my room.
What do I need to do to make my Betfair account as secure as possible? I'm a technophobe so please keep it simple.
I'll be using my own laptop and connecting to the net in my room.
What do I need to do to make my Betfair account as secure as possible? I'm a technophobe so please keep it simple.
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Where are you going in the Caribbean if you don't mind me asking?
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just open another account, minimum balance levels just for the trip
wots the worst that can happen............ |
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It should be fairly safe if you connect through a wire.
Wireless connection is much more dire though. |
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Oh dear...
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The safest way is to leave a computer on at home and remote desktop to it from the Carribean.
Plenty of tutorials on how to set it up on the net. I wouldn't be accessing my account from the Carribean directly. |
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er, thru the wireless connection, as above
Oh dear |
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Deltâ
Date Joined: 12 Mar 02 Add contact | Send message When: 14 Feb 12 17:50 Joined: Date Joined: 12 Mar 02 | Topic/replies: 13,521 | Blogger: Deltâ's blog just open another account, minimum balance levels just for the trip wots the worst that can happen............ Seems like a decent suggestion |
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isnt the https encryption safe enough on wireless?
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I tried to place a bet on Betfair while in Barbados. The computer wouldn't let me, as I said I was in an unauthorised country. So I used my phone, no problems there.
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The HTTPS encryption that Betfair use on the main site isn't good enough, since not all the pages are HTTPS. Wireless or wired, people can get access to your account. Don't use Betfair's website on a hotel network or free wifi!
However, 3rd-party applications (and Betfair's own mobile application) use the API to communicate with Betfair, and that is fully encrypted, which makes them safe to use. |
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lol..the OP isn't going over to Barbados at all
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Mr Magoo
15 Feb 12 08:50 Joined: 28 Mar 05 | Topic/replies: 684 | Blogger: Mr Magoo's blog The HTTPS encryption that Betfair use on the main site isn't good enough, since not all the pages are HTTPS. Wireless or wired, people can get access to your account. Don't use Betfair's website on a hotel network or free wifi! However, 3rd-party applications (and Betfair's own mobile application) use the API to communicate with Betfair, and that is fully encrypted, which makes them safe to use. My email account was hacked (almost certainly through mobile phone use). Since then I've not used a mobile device to log into Betfair, and I now have 2-step verification for my email account. |
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what is a 2 step verification? u have 2 passwords when u log in?
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Google's 2-step verification is a good thing, definitely. (henok: it works with a separate 'key' device, or an app you install on your phone, that provides a code number that you must enter when you log in with your password. Anyone who is managing to listen in on your communications can't re-use this code number because it changes every few seconds)
So many ways to hack an email account... or maybe hack your entire phone. But the Betfair mobile app is still more secure than other ways of using the site. |
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YOU NEED TO GO TO GAMBLERS ANNONOMOUSE IF YOUR GOING TO THE CARRABIAN AND YOU CANT LEAVE BETFAIR ALONE FOR AWHILE ,
I LOVE YOUR SORT THE WORLD AT YOUR FEET ,AND ALL YOUR BOTHERED ABOUT IS HOW DO I GET ON BETFAIR |
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AND DONT TELL ME YOU WANT TO RELAX AND HAVE A FLUTTER ON BETFAIR ,AS I BELIEVE YOU ,BUT THE PARROT ON MY SHOULDER DOESNT
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DONT YOU THINK YOU SPEND ENOUGH TIME ON IT ,WITHOUT MESSING EVERYBODYS HOLIDAY UP ON BETFAIR
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My email account was hacked (almost certainly through mobile phone use). Since then I've not used a mobile device to log into Betfair, and I now have 2-step verification for my email account.
Odds on you clicked on something, maybe a spoof password update or opened a file. 99% of the time this is how it happens on phones. Sometimes if you click on a link it installs a program via php without you even knowing. People must learn to become smart along with their phones. Never click anything related to passwords or links unless you know 100% it is genuine. For example, a mate of mine said he was checking his gmail on his phone and he was asked to update his password. As soon as he entered the information, his whole phone shut down and his account was hacked and sending the same thing to all his contacts. His phone hasn't been right since and almost all his contacts are now in the same position. I asked him why he didn't just close the email and login to his account and check his account management to see if it was actually a request from Gmail. He looked at me blankly like I had two heads. In this day and age, hackers are having a field day because people just won't be bothered to check things out properly. |
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Hmpf! What do Google know about computers? Don't they realise that two-step authentication actually makes it easier for hackers? And to make matters worse they offer full https access too...
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Mr.Anderson
Date Joined: 07 Oct 10 Add contact | Send message When: 16 Feb 12 10:56 Joined: Date Joined: 07 Oct 10 | Topic/replies: 143 | Blogger: Mr.Anderson's blog Hmpf! What do Google know about computers? Don't they realise that two-step authentication actually makes it easier for hackers? And to make matters worse they offer full https access too... Nice joke. |
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Thanks for the suggestions so far. A bit busy to reply properly, but a brief response to some points:
- Grand Cayman - This is what I do for a living, so not really something I can do with a couple of hundred quid in a new account - Maybe this is a good time to look at tha API stuff if that is more secure - I never use Betfair on a mobile phone. - Maybe I should take a week off. Going to have very little spare time over there (friend's wedding & stag), and I never take time off. |
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why not just take 2 weeks off 'work' ?
you wouldn't work for 52 weeks a year for Joe Bloggs unless you're like me and have an enforced break during the soccer season  |
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I'm posting from Vietnam :p
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Friend's wedding and staggie and you are worrying about being able to log on to BF. Worry about your priorities in life a bit more would be my advice
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On my home computer I have a macro set up using a tool called Macro Express which automatically opens Betfair and logs me in. So it just needs a click to run. Then I use Logmein free version to log in to my home PC from abroad and activate the macro with a click. With logmein I have a set of once only security codes to log into my logmein account, in addition to having to input 3 different letters of a password to access the PC.
So even if someone is looking at my screen when I'm logging in or using a keylogger in an internet cafe, they won't be able to hack my account. |
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What's your IP address?
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ffs...the OP isn't going to the Caribbean or anywhere else in the next few weeks
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PUT A LOCK ON YOUR DOOR
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Locks can be broken into so what's the point? It just means extra fiddling about with keys when you want to get in yet solve nothing. The only way to ensure you're not burgled, obviously, is to live without any possessions at all but most people are too stupid to realise this.
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Yup, locking your door or installing an alarm system does not help against burglary. On the contrary it is good for the burglars! You see fifty years ago few people locked their doors at night, and nobody had any alarm system! Yet the burglary rate was low. Then people started to lock their doors and install alarm systems and as a result the burglary rate has increased dramatically! People are so stupid. Sad really.
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That's not the reason ffs. Nobody had anything to steal in those days...
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All they had was Spam. And for the kiddies out there, Spam used to be something you ate, usually forced upon you by your parents at tea time. Yeah yeah I know what your thinking, why didn't I just divorce them or give them a slap, but you see not so long ago kids used to actually respect their elders or it would be them that got a slap! Imagine that, respecting others!
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Customer:
Morning, Waitress: Morning. Customer: What have you got? Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon, egg sausage and bacon Egg and spam Egg, bacon and spam Egg, bacon, sausage and spam Spam, bacon, sausage and spam Spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam Spam, sausage, spam, spam, spam, bacon, spam tomato and spam Spam, spam, spam, egg and spam Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam. (Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! Lovely Spam! Lovely Spam!) Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and spam. Wife: Have you got anything without spam? Waitress: Well, the spam, eggs, sausage and spam That's not got much spam in it Wife: I don't want any spam! Customer: Why can't she have eggs, bacon, spam and sausage? Wife: That's got spam in it! Customer: Hasn't got much spam in it as spam, eggs, sausage and spam has it? (Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam!...) Wife: Could you do me eggs, bacon, spam and sausage without the spam, then? Waitress: Iiiiiiiiiiiich!! Wife: What do you mean 'Iiiiiiiiiich'? I don't like spam! (Choir: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!) Waitress (to choir): Shut up! (Choir: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!) Waitress: Shut Up! Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg, bacon, spam and sausage without the spam. Wife: I don't like spam! Customer: Shush dear, don't have a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it, I'm having spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam, and spam! (Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!) Waitress: Shut Up!! Baked beans are off. Customer: Well, could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then? Waitress: You mean spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam and spam? Choir (intervening): Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam spam spam! |
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The clowns have been let out of the asylum again.
The analogy is not the same. But I've given up, you can't educate the 95% who lose, whether it's here or elsewhere. They'll never get it, even if you try and explain it kindergarten style. Just about everyone will be burgled once in their lifetime. A lock will not stop it. So if the clowns want to keep all their posessions at home along with expensive jewellry, their Ferrari in the loungeroom and all their cash under the bed, then it's a matter of time before they lose the lot. Lock or no lock. Leave the deed to the house and your driver's licence on the kitchen table too. After all, a lock should do the trick! |
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Looks like we all agree that you should not keep anything valuable at home and that locks or alarm systems don't solve anything! I for one am sitting at a Pentium II with a 24 inch CRT monitor weighing 55 kg! Those new flat screen monitors that some stupid people have are like candy to burglars!
Now the mistake that a lot of not so intelligent people make is that they keep their valuables in bank vaults! Most banks don't even have any security guards. They just rely on locks and alarm systems to keep thieves out! As if locks and alarm systems could offer any meaningful protection. Bank vaults can be broken into. Locks and alarm systems don't solve anything! A better solution would of course be to hide your valuables in the forests or at the bottom of the sea. But don't keep all in one place. I recommend at least a dozen different stashes to minimize your risk. Then you can relax and laugh at the thieves with their lock picks and crowbars:) |
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Now the mistake that a lot of not so intelligent people make is that they keep their valuables in bank vaults! Most banks don't even have any security guards. They just rely on locks and alarm systems to keep thieves out! As if locks and alarm systems could offer any meaningful protection. Bank vaults can be broken into. Locks and alarm systems don't solve anything!
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/30/paris-robbers-dig-bank
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