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macrider
05 Feb 12 14:25
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HERE ARE A FEW FACTS THAT MIGHT HELP US ALL ALONG TO PICKING A WINNER FEEL FREE TO ADD YOUR OWN COMMENTS IF YOU WISH                    1.BASED ON UK AND IRISH HORSERACING NO HORSE HAS WON THE 1ST RACE BEARING THE SADDLE CLOTH NUMBER 4 SINCE 2011.  2.ON SATURDAYS FAR LESS FAVIORITES WIN RACES THAN OTHER OTHER RACING DAYS. 3. CHELSEA HAVE WON MORE GAMES 1-0 THAN ANY OTHER TEAM. 4. SO FAR THIS YEAR HORSES BEARING THE CLOTH NUMBER 3 HAVE WON FAR LESS RACES THAN HORSES BEARING NUMBERS 1,2,4,5,6.   gl all
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Report henok February 5, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
good stat. this will show people who do martingale without anylogic that their losing runs can be amazingly long
Report macrider February 6, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
thx henok,these are nothing to do with martingale ive only heard of him on the forums,by keeping a daily diary on results you will find some strange stats theres plenty more out there,as someone mentioned on the horseracing forum,theres 3 really good jockeys if if there riding a horse thats sp is 2.5 or lower they rarely win. [ i could mention 5 but i wont ]
Report TheVis February 6, 2012 11:43 AM GMT
favs winning less races on a Sat is hardly surprising.  Anybody should be able to work that one out.
Report SHAPESHIFTER February 6, 2012 11:45 AM GMT

Feb 6, 2012 -- 11:43AM, TheVis wrote:


favs winning less races on a Sat is hardly surprising.

Report SHAPESHIFTER February 6, 2012 11:46 AM GMT
Agree.
Report SHAPESHIFTER February 6, 2012 11:46 AM GMT
130....if ever....600/1 plus Crazy

220 wolver....decider 12/1
Report DFCIRONMAN February 6, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
Day of Week
    Favourite     2nd Favourite     3rd Favourite
    Outcome     Return     Outcome     Return     Outcome     Return
    Bets     Win     Place     Win     E/W     Bets     Win     Place     Win     E/W     Bets     Win     Place     Win     E/W
Monday     21565    35%    62%    92%    91%     18841    20%    50%    87%    89%     17677    14%    39%    85%    88%
Tuesday     17153    34%    63%    93%    92%     15030    20%    50%    87%    89%     14001    14%    39%    89%    90%
Wednesday     21658    35%    63%    94%    92%     18983    20%    49%    90%    90%     17695    14%    39%    85%    88%
Thursday     20749    35%    63%    92%    91%     18312    20%    49%    89%    90%     17222    13%    39%    83%    86%
Friday     23234    35%    63%    94%    92%     20388    20%    49%    90%    91%     19091    13%    38%    82%    86%
Saturday     31834    33%    61%    91%    90%     27717    20%    48%    89%    90%     25974    14%    38%    85%    87%
Sunday     8169    34%    63%    92%    91%     7188    20%    50%    87%    89%     6862    14%    39%    87%    88%
===================================================================

As 34% is over all stat on favs winning over a number of years , then is a 1 % difference on SATURDAY a "material" difference?
Report macrider February 6, 2012 4:49 PM GMT
1  %  it is to me,130 was your 1st race and at 200-1 sp let alone betfair sp thats way to high  for me to take on a lay.however there not normally any where near that high.
Report roadrunner46 February 6, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
van persie
demba ba
gareth bale

have proven to be real money spinners
this season , first goal scorers this season.
goodluck
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 6, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
DFC can easily be explained by bigger fields on the weekend
Report macrider February 6, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
good reply roadrunner46 thx and gl
Report macrider February 6, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
clydebank29 do you mean bigger fields saturdays and not the weekend ?
Report DFCIRONMAN February 6, 2012 8:17 PM GMT
Either the favourite has value or doesn't......and that is crucial factor.....1 % less favs winning on SATURDAY is irrelevant IMO.....
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 6, 2012 8:17 PM GMT
What I meant is Saturday is the big raceday of the week and the racing calendar is structured so that big field handicaps are common place on Saturday
Report DFCIRONMAN February 6, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
I agree re point made CB29 Cool....just don't believe the less favs winning on SATURDAY is relevant to laying them.......or backing them .

Each race to be rated on own merits.....
Report macrider February 6, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
dfc irrelivant to you,relivant to me,i often work 6 days and saturdays is often a good betting day for me. im more interested in positive replys than arguments for and against odd stats or hearin about odd stats that you dont normally read about in papers like the r.p.some stats can definatly provide winners.
Report DFCIRONMAN February 6, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
It was a "positive" reply/comment by me....as it is all about VALUE whether you back or lay a favourite ...or just ignore it as a bet....

I am being "positive" that you should disregard that statDevilLaugh

GL though on SATURDAY bets...
Report macrider February 6, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
no worries dfc. ya seem to be doin well on your C.S thread.keep up the good work gl
Report SHAPESHIFTER February 7, 2012 9:25 AM GMT
re: Saturday fave's.  I thought about this overnight and just returned to see DFCIRONMAN has posted the stats that scuppers the statement about fave's.

Though I agreed (without the stats), what I really find is that it is easier to read the fave's on a Saturday than any other day of the week when backing (or laying).  So, for me, when backing fave's my stats are probably better on a Saturday than during the week.
Report macrider February 26, 2012 11:44 AM GMT
im gutted this morning,i got 4 number + bonus on the lotto last nite,winning total of £57 one more number and it was £126000 ish gl all
Report bluenose7 February 28, 2012 8:36 AM GMT
Penguins don't have knees.  Shocked
Report SHAPESHIFTER February 28, 2012 11:59 AM GMT
macrider....if it makes you feel better:

I've played two sets of numbers per draw.  When they win 3 or 4 of 6, I replace them.

I'd done some new numbers for the weekend and was going to do them when I got back from a day out with the family plus Mrs Shapeshifter's mother.

It was one of those days when the 'mother-in-law' was getting on my nerves as a beautiful Saturday was being wasted with 'changing of minds', etc.  I had 'mother-in-law' overdose at that moment.

Because of a missed train as the mother-in law doddled in a shop, I realized I wouldn't get home to do the lottery as 7:30 approached so dashed into a shop then realized I didn't have the numbers in my wallet.

I did them from memory though my brain was frazzled from spending the day with 'the mother-in-law'

That Monday, I looked up the results.  We landed 4 for around £75.  I also noted we had the bonus which, like you, meant nothing.

As I sat down to do the new set up numbers, I realized that when doing 'from memory', I had made one mistake putting an 18 instead of a 19.

So be it.

Then, I realized if I had done the numbers properly or had gotten home in time, I would have scored 5 plus the bonus which, that week, would have paid around £85,000.

Sad
Report I.quit.my.country February 28, 2012 1:14 PM GMT
To the op: these systems should be thrown in the bin. Sorry to be so blunt, This is where common sense comes into play. Something has happened but is it sustainable for genuine reasons? That's what you have to ask when you find something. Maybe you Can dó something with the Chelsea 1-0,  i'm a little surprised with that stat giving the manager's Open style. Unless you are counting mourinho's reign where the likelihood of 1-0 would have been manufactured into the price.
Report duncan idaho February 28, 2012 10:15 PM GMT
^what he said
Report macrider February 29, 2012 7:37 PM GMT
thx for the replys all.shapeshifter after reading your reply it did make me feel a whole lot better it definatly put a smile on my face,i can understand why so many dont get along with the in laws,at least with the lotto i see it that i started 4 lines weds and sat since dec last year and considerin i come that close and i have previosly also had a tenner off them,i feel im pickin them in the right direction.also the idea of changing numbers once a win has come from them sounds good to me.we shall see what tonights numbers bring [ wishfull thinking ]iqmc since postin that with chelsea it hasnt come in once that one is one for the bin.on saddle cloth number stats i do involve them when making selections whether backin or layin together with form and normal stats and i can honestly say they have helped me to make  profit. gl all
Report SHAPESHIFTER February 29, 2012 11:03 PM GMT
macrider, been doing the 'number changes' since 1980 so the numbers that I have now have 'evolved' from that year. 

I'm a believer in 'synchronicity' and events/numbers all take me down certain paths.  Was the £85,000 supposed to be mine based on my numeric journey?  Obviously not so either the universe knew I'll be better off without it in the long run or a bigger prize is actually in the card for me Wink
Report smithy91 February 29, 2012 11:15 PM GMT
my favourite stats for my team blackburn rovers.
1:no clean sheet since april 2011 against bolton well over 30 games.
2: both teams have scored in all blackburn's away games apart from man city last weekend.

fill your boots lads aston villa at home this weekendLaugh
Report macrider March 1, 2012 11:35 PM GMT
thx smithy91,will look out for villa,my favourite teams wolves but i rarely back or lay em there way too unpreditable.gl
Report smithy91 March 2, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
hi macrider. very hard to find an edge on your own team as you always fear the worst whenever they play and then they get shock results when you don't expect them to. eg rovers 3-2 man utd at old trafford man u 1.13 blackburn 36 Laugh

one thing is virtually guaranteed though goals with blackburn.
Report xmoneyx March 2, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
top trainer--blogs on sat ---schooling going very well for top horse gold cup-chelt

but on fri top horse apparently had a serious fall schooling
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