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dj876
27 Jan 12 15:09
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In the Djokovic v Murray-There was in excess of 46 million traded on this match today.I am aware that the majority of this trading in and out.How much operating profit would betfair make on this iyo(exluding premium charges just commission)??
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Report roger_moore January 27, 2012 3:18 PM GMT
i believe on things like tennis and cricket (with alot of trading), they make about 0.7% of total traded. But dont forget anything on the "aus exchange" is a joint venture so its more like 0.25%
Report dj876 January 27, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
Thank u Mr.h.So a little over 100 grand on this match.Mr.h and what margin do they work at on that 100 grand for actual profit?Do u know what % they work on Horse racing /football?
Report roger_moore January 27, 2012 3:32 PM GMT
cant remember what it exactly is, but when i worked there, the rule banded around was that only 1/7 was actually profit. They rest is operating cost.
Report dj876 January 27, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
Thanks Mr.H,,,,,It'a very low net margin on Australian sports,maybe .036%
Report TheInvestor2 January 27, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
I guess you mean 0.36%?
Report TheInvestor2 January 27, 2012 4:59 PM GMT
I'd say that's very decent, considering it's risk free. Anything in excess of expenses incurred is worthwhile for Betfair, although they'll take more if they think they can.
Report dj876 January 27, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
I guess you mean 0.36%?

No .25% is 0perating profit,Betfair work on a margin of 14% of this so,.036% net profit margin on Australian sports.
Report TheInvestor2 January 28, 2012 2:27 AM GMT
So the model that was deemed unsustainable without the introduction of Premium Charges, does magically work to a minuscule margin in Australia?
Report Feck N. Eejit January 28, 2012 5:07 PM GMT
In the Djokovic v Murray-There was in excess of 46 million traded

I wonder how much it would have been if the providers of the famous liquidity (aka the shell and pea boys) didn't get 7 or 8 seconds to decide whether they want the mug bets?
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 9:58 PM GMT
are you referring to cross-matching bot profit, commission profit or premium charge profit which are all more than 0.7% ?
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
and it could be we have a mystery  delay in-play matching bot somewhere, one can only wonder!
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
its not rocket science tinkering with an exchange system process to atain inside system edges that are un-visible!
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
lets hope they use it all to make betfair better.
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
Grin
Report dj876 January 28, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
bf fanatic
The question I asked, which Mr.H answered was commission only  profit on tennis?(obv.a lot of trading involved in tennis)??
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
quite right, my mistakeSad
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
I thought betfair made 50% with aussie partnership on comms?
Report dj876 January 28, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
read the thread !!
Report bf_fananatic January 28, 2012 10:12 PM GMT
the amount looks about right, marginal profiteering may seem like missing the boat but if you do enough of it repeatdly you still win in the long run by way of greater circulation which it turn creates a system that should grow organically as the last ten years as proved.
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