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Wicked Whisper
27 Nov 11 13:14
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It's my goal to run my own tipping service at some point in the future, working title is Flatcapper™ Wink. So I'm going to log my advised bets. This is pretty much for my record and maybe get a few followers for those who like to purchase tips/subscriptions etc.

I've posted these already in the Horse Racing forum and I will happily link the thread if necessary. All bets 1pt win only advised.

22nd November

Elhamri 8/1 BOG advised @ 14:10 Southwell

Result: 3rd place @ 10/1 SP


23rd November

Estonia @ 16:35 Kempton

Result: N/R


25th November

Spinning Ridge 11/2 BOG advised @ 17:35 Wolverhampton

Result: 2nd place @ 4/1 SP


26th November

Standpoint 14/1 BOG advised @ 19:50 Wolverhampton

Result: 2nd place @ 13/2 SP



Current record:

Advised: -3pts

E/W: +1.94pts

BSP: -3pts
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Report Wicked Whisper • November 27, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
28th November

Queenies Star 11/2 BOG advised @ 17:50 Wolverhampton (Hills)
Report Wicked Whisper • November 28, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
Result: Unplaced @ 9/1 SP

Advised: -4pts

E/W: +0.94pts

BSP: -4pts
Report Wicked Whisper • November 28, 2011 8:49 PM GMT
29th November

Bold Ring 5/1 BOG advised @ 15:20 Lingfield (Hills, Lads, VC)
Report Wicked Whisper • November 29, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
Result: Unplaced @ 7/1 SP
Report Wicked Whisper • November 29, 2011 3:30 PM GMT
Advised: -5pts

E/W: -0.06pts

BSP: -5pts
Report Wicked Whisper • November 29, 2011 7:00 PM GMT
30th November

Mottley Crewe 9/2 BOG advised @ 18:30 Kempton (365, VC)
Sherjawy 12/1 BOG advised @ 19:00 Kempton (365, WH)
Report Wicked Whisper • November 30, 2011 5:24 PM GMT
1st December

Red Cape 9/2 BOG advised @ 18:30 Wolverhampton (Lad, VC)
Desert Strike 11/1 BOG advised @ 18:30 Wolverhampton (Hills)
Mount Hollow 11/2 BOG advised @ 19:00 Wolverhampton (Hills)
Report Wicked Whisper • November 30, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
Mottley Crewe unplaced @ 9/2 SP
Sherjawy unplaced @ 20/1 SP

Advised: -7pts

E/W: -2.06pts

BSP: -7pts
Report TameTheTiger • November 30, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
Is it a laying service that you hope to be providing ?
Report Wicked Whisper • November 30, 2011 8:06 PM GMT
Even if it was, I think a bigger sample than 7 bets would be required for confidence.

Wink
Report Wicked Whisper • December 1, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
1st December cont.

Trade Secret 11/1 BOG advised @ 19:00 Wolverhampton (Boyle)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 1, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
Results:

Red Cape 2nd @ 11/2 SP
Desert Strike 3rd @ 8/1 SP

Mount Hollow unplaced @ 13/2 SP
Trade Secret 3rd @ 15/2 SP

Advised: -11pts

E/W: -1.64pts

BSP: -11pts
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • December 2, 2011 8:12 AM GMT
Your hitting the prices but not the winners ww . . . sign of a good judge is to splatter the s/p . . . you are doing that.

Good luck.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 2, 2011 9:22 AM GMT
2nd December

Hurricane Spirit 17/2 BOG advised @ 14:20 Lingfield (VC)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 2, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
Result:

Hurricane Spirit unplaced @ 16/1 SP


Not much to say on this one, some strong market support throughout the day for numerous horses pushed the price out considerably. Then in the race only a few horses got a true run.

Quite disappointed but I will soldier on, law of averages and whatnot. I'm going to focus more on watching the market concerning the selection before advising a price because there are simply too many drifters and signs of weakness close to the off and if I had not already advised them earlier, I would have been put off completely.

I do realise there isn't going to be long term success if we cannot frequently beat the SP. I am confident in my selection process but market support is often vital and I am going to have to incorporate this more. I was more
afraid of missing a good early price and ended up committing, then watching them drift.

Luckily I don't think anybody would be following these selections at the moment so the only person losing out is me! I will refine this more.

Wink
Report Wicked Whisper • December 6, 2011 11:16 PM GMT
Just a quick update. I have refined the selection process. From now I will be advising bets on the day of race, sometimes as close as 30 mins to the official off time.

The bets will continue to be win only, but will now range from 1-4pts.

I have plugged some serious selection flaws and applying the new approach to the previous picks would have greatly reduced the majority of poor results.

There is likely to be a new tip tomorrow barring any worrying market reports!

Cool
Report Wicked Whisper • December 7, 2011 12:17 PM GMT
There has been what you could consider a worrying report. Hugh Taylor has tipped the selection and it may seem that value has left the building.

1pt Skylla 7/2 BOG advised @ 15:50 Kempton (Lads)


Perhaps next time he won't notice Wink
Report Insanity Later • December 7, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
I think you need to refine the selection process again WW. Maybe 30 mins after the official off time will do the trick.
Perhaps nobody will notice Wink
Report Wicked Whisper • December 8, 2011 11:10 AM GMT
Maybe you're right, I'll probably just stick with it for now though. Cheers. I may have a selection for Kempton this evenining, I'll keep you posted.
Report Insanity Later • December 8, 2011 1:49 PM GMT
Sorry mate, only yankin your chain. At least you're up front about your aims. Cheers.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 8, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
2pt Lord Lansing 7/2 SportingBet 16:30 Kempton
Report Wicked Whisper • December 8, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
Take 3/1 GP if unable to get 7/2
Report Wicked Whisper • December 8, 2011 4:49 PM GMT
Just can't back a winner at the moment.

Skylla 10/12 @ 11/2 SP
Lord Lansing 3/13 @ 3/1 SP
Report Wicked Whisper • December 9, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
1pt Maven @ 7/2 GP (Lads)

If given support in to clear favouritism, stick another 0.5pts on.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 9, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
@ 18:40 Southwell, sorry.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 10, 2011 12:43 AM GMT
First winner of the thread, lol.

Maven returns at SP GP of 4/1.

So since 'refining':

Advised: +1pt

BSP: +1.5pts

No selection tomorrow.
Report Trevh • December 10, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
WW, why do you want to run a tipping service? Many believe that only those who can't make it pay would offer such a service.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 10, 2011 1:04 PM GMT
I guess I just have a fascination with people like Tom Segal, Henry Rix and Hugh Taylor etc.

I'm being a bit of a fantasist but I see what they have and I say to myself 'I want that too'.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 10, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
Some early value:

0.5pt Absolute Princess 10/1 GP 15:00 Southwell (Lads)


It's likely I will be picking another selection in this race, but that I will decide tomorrow. This definitely looks like a value bet.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 11, 2011 12:09 PM GMT
Looks like somebody tipped the selection I had my eye on, which caused the price to crash unexpectedly.

2pt Michaels Nook 9/4 GP @ 15:00 Southwell (General)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 11, 2011 12:31 PM GMT
It's 15:30 Southwell*
Report Wicked Whisper • December 11, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
Fell out the stalls, strong finish all things considered.

Absolute Princess 4/6 @ SP 9/1
Michael's Nook 6/14 @ SP 7/4

Advised: -1.5pts
BSP: -1pt
Report top2rated • December 11, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
Re. Michael's Nook

What stopped you putting it up a couple of hours earlier when it was twice the price?

By the way, it finished 5th of 13 not 6/14.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 1:51 AM GMT
Because personally I like to see clear market support, preferably into favouritism. This one jumped too much before I noticed.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
2.5pts Dorothys Dancing 9/2 general @ Wolverhampton 15:45
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
Late speed of veteran The Tatling is enough to edge the race in a photo. I apologise as I jumped the gun a bit on Dorothys Dancing as there was very strong support for Grand Stitch on the off and personally I layed off but I didn't have time to post.

I highly doubt anyone is following so it's no concern at the moment but it makes my record look worse...

Advised: -4pts
BSP: -3.5pt
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
I may just stop this thread because my bets are normally very close to the off because I believe market support is vital. Obviously I didn't have a very good record anyway up to this point, but the nature of my bets make it bad for tipping.

Apologies to any true followers which is unlikely.
Report jimmy69 • December 12, 2011 4:29 PM GMT
FFS
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 4:55 PM GMT
?
Report kavvie • December 12, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
keep going..itl turn for you...
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 5:14 PM GMT
It's not the losses, that happens, it's the the fact that sometime I make my decision literally seconds before the off.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 12, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
Here's one you can back now.

3pts Global Village 10/3 GP (VC, Lads) 13:30 Southwell

Missed 9/2, 4/1 & 7/2 unfortunately.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 13, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
2pts Six Wives 6/1 SportingBet 14:30 Southwell
Report Wicked Whisper • December 13, 2011 2:40 PM GMT
Global Village 1/14 @ 13/8 SP
Six Wives 1/14 @ 7/2 SP

Advised: +18pts
BSP: +14.37
Report Wicked Whisper • December 14, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
1pt King Of Windsor W/O Emerald Wilderness 4/1 @ 14:10 Lingfield (general)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 14, 2011 2:17 PM GMT
King Of Windsor 2/9 (W/O Emerald Wilderness) @ SP 9/4

Advised: +17pts
BSP: +14.37pts (no market)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 15, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
4pts Wreningham 5/2 GP @ 16:50 Wolverhampton (Lads)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 16, 2011 5:38 PM GMT
Wreningham 2/10 @ 11/8 SP Sad

Advised: +13pts
BSP: +11.37pts
Report Wicked Whisper • December 18, 2011 4:15 PM GMT
2.5pts Green Earth 7/2 GP (General) @ 16:15 Kempton
Report Wicked Whisper • December 18, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
Green Earth 1/10 @ 3/1 SP

Advised: +21.75pts
BSP: +19.87pts
Report roadrunner46 • December 24, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
whats losers to wins ratio on this thread,
dont forget to add +1
you.
I make mind up just before the off.
good one
Report Wicked Whisper • December 26, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
2.5pts Gritstone 10/3 @ 14:55 Wolverhampton (Sportingbet)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 26, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
Gritstone 5/11 @ 7/2 SP

Advised: +19.25pts
BSP: +17.27pts
Report Wicked Whisper • December 28, 2011 1:37 PM GMT
2pts Avon Supreme 4/1 GP @ 13:40 Lingfield (general)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 29, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
4pts Shaunas Spirit 11/4 @ 18:50 Kempton (WH, general)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 29, 2011 7:53 PM GMT
Avon Supreme 8/10 @ 7/2
Shaunas Spirit 3/13 @ 15/8

Advised: +13.25pts
BSP: +11.27pts

Hit a bad patch. Should have some more tomorrow.
Report Wicked Whisper • December 30, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
2.5pts Lockantanks 11/4 GP @ 14:45 Lingfield (General)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 30, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
Lockantanks 1/8 @ 5/2 SP

Advised: +20.13pts

BSP: +18.4pts
Report Wicked Whisper • December 30, 2011 6:40 PM GMT
2pts Hierarch 4/1 GP @ 18:40 Wolverhampton (Board price)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 30, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
Hierarch 5/13 @ 4/1 SP

Advised: +18.13pts
BSP: +16.4pts
Report Wicked Whisper • December 31, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
2pts Royal Bajan 3/1 GP @ 14:15 Lingfield (General)
Report Wicked Whisper • December 31, 2011 2:21 PM GMT
Royal Bajan 1/9 @ 5/2 SP

Advised: +24.13pts
BSP: +22pts
Report Wicked Whisper • December 31, 2011 3:45 PM GMT
1.5pts Rapid Water 3/1 GP @ 15:45 Lingfield (General)
Report Wicked Whisper • January 5, 2012 9:51 PM GMT
Rapid Water 9/9 @ 3/1 SP

3.25pts Royal Bajan 2/1 GP @ 15:25 Lingfield (Lads)
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