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In-Play Delays Imposed By Betfair ?
In-Play Delays Imposed By Betfair ?
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In keeping with the religious theme, I'm now praying that the footy forum isn't moving over to General Betting, or I'll be gone :)
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"Both Religions fundamental belief is God. "
How anyone with half a brain can even contemplate the concept of a God is beyond me. But in reality religion has nothing to do with a real thing we call God anyway. Its about control and manipulation of the great unwashed. Scare the sh1t out of people by inventing an unseen entity that will do them harm if they dont follow the rules and you have a recipe for control. Most organised religions are disgusting regimes which are cloaked in a veneer of sanctity. |
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This conversation is developing into an infantile slanging match and is not necessary. It doesn't help that it has not been explained to you up to now but RS1 it is very wrong to make such wild accusations at the best of times, but making it using Betfair's own facilities is very dangerous and could lead to a ban. You are wrong and here is the very simple answer as to why.
When you see a back of 1.24 after a game suspends this is from a layer who has kept his lay in the market and it appears as money available to back. I trade football matches all the time and I have not seen any circumstance where I have ever had to question the market process. http://mysportstradingjourney.blogspot.com/ |
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HA, I usually don't trade football matches so I can't say if he is right or wrong, but he has a point if there as soon as a market reopen are prices on both sides which both are lower than kickoff price. This is in theory impossible.
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Andy, in your example he is not referring to the keep bet (lay) which has been left in at 1.24 (appearing the blue box) once the market reopens, but the 50k new bet waiting in the at 1.25 in the purple box which appears to get in before everyone else.
As myself and several others have pointed out, this will be down to him having a slower inteface to the server. |
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RS1 is perfectly right. I had same issue and BF still not answer to me for over 6 months. My point then was the same but instead of match odds market for the correct score markets.
Whan the result is changed (a goal is scored) on the impossible selection appeard ammount at odd of 1000. I mean when the result have been 0:0 and TEAM A scores a goal - after the goal on SELECTION 0:0 for correct score are appearing bets without delay time. They told to me that this is a keep- bet - are they nuts lay at 1000 odd at possible income with keep bet!! it will be matched immediatley at best availiable price. So after that they try to explain that is because of refreshing the site - i am seeing it to late. I did explain that i am using an API application. So the insist that is because of refresh rates of the application. I set them 2 days just to observe - to the very minimum - 0.01 second refresh rate. It was the same - suspension was lifted and bets were there (sometimes). So i had to discuss this with the API vendor - and still - yes they told me that it not suppose to be in that way. BF developers did not answer to thier emails if there is something wrong with providing data with the API. And that was all - no hear from BF. For now on a small games most of them this is not happening i do not have any idea what is on biggest games for inplay. |
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modk, thanks I obviously misunderstood but I agree entirely with your conclusion.
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Eddie & Kara, I understand what you are saying but I still stand by what I have seen with my own eyes which gives me complete confidence on the market process.
The next big game is Norwich v Arsenal on Saturday so I will make particular observations and put in some keep bet trades and then report back. Hopefully is won't be 0-0. |
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This is more worrying....
On Tuesday I was watching the 2.00 at Folkestone (a 3 runner beginners chase) on my television. The runners were nowhere near a fence when suddenly the 1/7 fav went from long odds on to 1000 in one go. Loads was matched at all prices from about 1.20 through to 1000. Then suddenly about 8 seconds later when they got to the next fence - it fell. Somebody is clearly beating the clock here. I was expecting a searching article by one of the fine investigative journalists in the trade paper the next day - but no mention. Maybe they or ATR or BF are still looking into it.  |
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I suspect its the same case for you Karakondjur1.
By the time you see the SUSPENDED dissapear and the market reopen, the market actually reopened several seconds ago and the 1st update you receive from the server is a market with lays of 1000 on all the dead correct scores. If we were to pick a game and we watch the market after a goal/suspension, im sure I will see a different set of events to you. |
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Welcome to betfair methane
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Been here 11 years modk - nothing has changed (for the better). At least when they were allowed to remount the villains would have experienced the occasional adrenalin rush!
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Methane Magnet is a LOSER...NAP
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ah Jimmy - the forums answer to Albert Einstein but with a superior knowledge of emoticons.
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Seething too
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@Methane Magnet - i am not talking about beating the clock situation
@modk - i know by default (a lot experience) that i am not the always with the fastest bets placed. So lets assume that this 1st price on dead correct scores. How does appeard so fast. By fast i mean 1. With the re-opening of the market 2. Sometimes is not with the reopening immediatley - maybe with less than a second delay. How can you explain that really? I do not have a propper explanation - i have tried everything - one more time - with fastest refresh rate on API aplication - i suppose to se when the market is re-open almost a second after that. On top of that - i am openning the intereface and click constantly with the mouse to place a bet - yes i got message that market is suspended - but i in that way i can see exactly when the suspension is lifted. So any ideas why this bets like - lay @ 1000 at imposible outcomes. |
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Karakonjur - I know, I was being flippant but it is relevant.
At least in the Correct Score market the 0:0 doesn't trade at 1000 just before the market suspends for the goal. Jimmy - |
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I suppose there's something more dark about bf own team , at least on tennis. For example, they use raw feeds: they cancel the bet accordling to fastest pics, but place in 4 sec as everybody can see on market . I'm reffering to 22222k team. Soon i'll do a video about that and place on youtube so everybody can see those strange things appening ...
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Personally,knowing what I know about this company,I would not be surprised if RS1 is right in his assumptions,even though he does come across as somewhat mentally fragile.
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