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Redbull5
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Hi Guys, Newbie here.

Opened betfair account 4 days back and overall lose of £40 - not happy.

Ive read over and over and over the laying business and ive decided to set up this thread in order to keep discipline and to hopefully win another £500. Im not being greedy im just looking to double my money!

On Thursday (28th) im putting £500 into my betfair account and it begin.

What do you people suggest, small bets or say £50?
Stay to football, tennis or go elsewhere.

Done betting before so know the basics, just looking for advice.

Also, any cheeky tips or bets for the weekend?

Thanks for reading, Redbull5
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Report frederickforsyth October 26, 2011 11:56 PM BST
well yeah i mean if you lay a 10-1 for £5 and it wins your straight down by £50, then you gotta be disciplined enough not to chase. i once slammed £850 on a horse to place chasing. it lost Cry

so be careful mate

do you work?
Report undern October 27, 2011 7:33 AM BST
Well done Redbull5.

You mentioned this at the beginning of your thread Also, each bet i will post up and show my winnings and losses. Most people will think "not another one of these threads" but hey ho,

Do you still plan on doing this Confused

All you do is simply copy and paste it.

All the best for today.
Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 11:58 AM BST

Oct 26, 2011 -- 5:56PM, frederickforsyth wrote:


well yeah i mean if you lay a 10-1 for £5 and it wins your straight down by £50, then you gotta be disciplined enough not to chase. i once slammed £850 on a horse to place chasing. it lost so be careful matedo you work?


Yeh, most of the time its under £20, being very carefully. still nerve racking watching these games lol

yeh i work, full time, decent pay!

Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 11:59 AM BST

Oct 27, 2011 -- 1:33AM, undern wrote:


Well done Redbull5.You mentioned this at the beginning of your thread Also, each bet i will post up and show my winnings and losses. Most people will think "not another one of these threads" but hey ho, Do you still plan on doing this All you do is simply copy and paste it.All the best for today.


Thanks very much, Erm i might do it, but sometimes when i see other people do it for every day it gets cluttered so i may just post up my totals on each sport like yesterday! il see i dont know yet, what would the people reading it like?

Cheers

Report undern October 27, 2011 12:59 PM BST
Actually Redbull5 - it is probably the only interesting bit of information that other people would wish to look at .... and as you posted it at the beginning of your thread this was something that certainly took my interest.

You only did three horse race bets and don't know how many football bets ... how many did you do by the way - that I have no idea why you would think it would look cluttered ....

At the end of the day it is your challenge ....
Report frederickforsyth October 27, 2011 1:34 PM BST
yep, good luck OP
Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 1:35 PM BST
Horse Racing / Hawth (US) 26th Oct : R7 1m Claim     26-Oct-11 22:46     26-Oct-11 23:05    3.80
Horse Racing / Hawth (US) 26th Oct : R2 1m Mdn Claim     26-Oct-11 20:11     26-Oct-11 20:25    2.85
Horse Racing / Kemp 26th Oct : 7f Class Stks     26-Oct-11 20:05     26-Oct-11 20:09    4.75
Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 1:35 PM BST
Soccer / Mallorca v Gijon : Next Goal     26-Oct-11 21:00     26-Oct-11 22:54    4.75
Soccer / Real Madrid v Villarreal : Over/Under 6.5 Goals     26-Oct-11 21:00     26-Oct-11 22:52    5.21
Soccer / Blackburn v Newcastle : Match Odds     26-Oct-11 20:00     26-Oct-11 21:57    -8.68
Soccer / Hibernian v Celtic : Bookings Odds     26-Oct-11 19:15     26-Oct-11 21:14    4.74
Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 1:36 PM BST
Tennis / Wozniacki v Zvonareva : Match Odds     26-Oct-11 17:30     26-Oct-11 21:32    4.75
Tennis / Sharapova v Li : Match Odds     26-Oct-11 16:15     26-Oct-11 18:50    5.70
Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 1:38 PM BST
Thats it from yesterday, 8 out of 9 bets won! will post it up from now on ,
Report keijam October 27, 2011 1:56 PM BST
I like to back and lay dogs, usually look to lay two dogs in a race for say £10 stake and back one dog for a £10 stake, i.e, if my dog loses but the other two and also losers then I make £10, obvioulsy if one of my selections wins it can be expensive give the 100% book prices compared to industry SP but it has served me well.

My next bet if Romford 3-07, back T2 and lay T4 & T6, obvioulsy if there are non runners or reserves my bet is void as these selcetions are based on the form of the original card.
Report keijam October 27, 2011 3:22 PM BST
Hope you enjoyed a winner and two well beaten lays! Next bet is Crayford 3.58, backing T4 and laying T3 and T6. I also think On The Way Out will easily win the 4.15 at Clonmel although will not be backing it if it goes off much less than 5/2
Report frederickforsyth October 27, 2011 3:40 PM BST
Redbull did you back li and vera then?
Report Redbull5 October 27, 2011 4:08 PM BST
so far today im having a shocker!! completely bad. But i will post all my totals tonight, The horses didnt go well ive been pretty bad on the tennis so far. Lets hope my luck turns tonight!
Report frederickforsyth October 27, 2011 4:18 PM BST
the horses are a total minefield unless you know what you're doing mate. good luck
Report Redbull5 October 28, 2011 1:48 AM BST
Day 2

Started my day of so badly, though i would go to horses, lost £70 so quickly. Then though oh wait, il go to tennis, lost more there so was -£80 at one point. Went away for few hours, came back determind. Won few bets in a row and came out with a £24.70 Profit for the day which im delighted. here you can see my bets, dont laugh at how much i lost at times!

Horse Racing: -£63.30 | Soccer: £26.94 | Tennis: £61.01  Total P&L:  £24.65


Horse Racing / Font 27th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Chs     27-Oct-11 15:00     27-Oct-11 15:06    -29.00
Horse Racing / Strat 27th Oct : 2m1f Hcap Chs     27-Oct-11 14:20     27-Oct-11 14:24    -40.00
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Oct : 7f Mdn Stks     27-Oct-11 13:40     27-Oct-11 13:45    5.70

Soccer / Brazil (W) v Canada (W) : Over/Under 3.5 Goals     27-Oct-11 23:45     28-Oct-11 01:39    17.44
Soccer / Brazil (W) v Canada (W) : Over/Under 2.5 goals     27-Oct-11 23:45     28-Oct-11 01:39    9.50

Tennis / Zvonareva v A Radwanska : Set Betting     27-Oct-11 17:30     27-Oct-11 21:20    23.75
Tennis / Wozniacki v Kvitova : Set Betting     27-Oct-11 16:15     27-Oct-11 18:32    18.14
Tennis / Wozniacki v Kvitova : Set 01 Winner     27-Oct-11 16:15     27-Oct-11 17:50    3.80
Tennis / Malisse v Fognini : Match Odds     27-Oct-11 14:15     27-Oct-11 16:52    23.75
Tennis / Azarenka v Li : Set 01 Winner     27-Oct-11 15:00     27-Oct-11 15:58    -3.92
Tennis / Thiem v Darcis : Match Odds     27-Oct-11 14:00     27-Oct-11 15:17    14.25
Tennis / Tursunov v Starace : Set 02 Winner     27-Oct-11 11:15     27-Oct-11 14:17    -1.40
Tennis / Haas v Bedene : Match Odds     27-Oct-11 12:00     27-Oct-11 13:54    -12.50
Tennis / Tursunov v Starace : Set 01 Winner     27-Oct-11 11:15     27-Oct-11 13:22    4.75
Tennis / Lajovic v Sela : Match Odds     27-Oct-11 11:15     27-Oct-11 12:53    -11.75
Tennis / Bogomolov Jr v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds     27-Oct-11 10:00     27-Oct-11 12:42    2.14

New bank stands at a total of £552:52.
This equals a profit of more than 5% a day.

What im doing is transfering each profit day into my aussie wallet so i know i cant use it and its away, and so i can aim at getting my £500 to £525 each day.

Cheers Guys
Report undern October 28, 2011 8:12 AM BST
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im in at under 3.5, cant see 4 goals!


I wonder what happened to this bet then Confused
Report undern October 28, 2011 8:34 AM BST
... that was the Bilbao vs Madrid game ... Laugh
Report frederickforsyth October 28, 2011 9:13 AM BST
well done red bull
Report Redbull5 October 28, 2011 11:34 AM BST
Ah yes unders, was going to put it on but when i saw them score 1, then 2, then 3, i was like no way. Put the match of completely. Would of won though.

Thanks Fred - hopefully another £25 today!
Report undern October 28, 2011 11:42 AM BST
Well that is interesting when the first goal was scored some 32 mins after you posted it ..... but then again I could be wrong

I hope you have a good betting.
Report Redbull5 October 28, 2011 1:35 PM BST
honestly cant remember mate, must of been a split descision and didnt take it but wrote it first - shows how indecisive i am. Todays looking good already 2 wins out of 2!
Report frederickforsyth October 28, 2011 1:38 PM BST
can you post up the bets? the horses i assume
Report undern October 28, 2011 1:50 PM BST
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yep, good lucky, need it, put a unders on so will green out hopefully


Well it certainly sounded like you put a bet on some 30mins before the 1st goal ... (the odds for under 3.5 goals by the way at the time was 1.06 or so - so greening out would have been interesting) ...

... but then again you may have changed your mind Confused

Have a good day betting and look forward to your summary tonight.
Report Redbull5 October 28, 2011 5:27 PM BST
Hi, fred il post todays bets up tomorro, i have a party tonight :))
Undern, god knows why i said that, especially not betting on unders or overs.

Il update this tomorro with all the news, still have 3 bets arranged for tonight but im out and staying at a friends Cool
Report frederickforsyth October 28, 2011 5:39 PM BST
enjoy a beer!
Report Redbull5 October 29, 2011 2:27 PM BST
Back,had an unbelievable drunk night. When i left i had 2 open bets which were all losing, came back today and they have all won!

Here is my bets from yesterday

Horse Racing: -£0.03 | Tennis: £41.28  Total P&L:  £41.25

Tennis / Bartoli v Azarenka : Set Betting     28-Oct-11 17:30     28-Oct-11 21:16    5.73
Tennis / Tsonga v Malisse : Set Betting     28-Oct-11 17:30     28-Oct-11 19:41    5.94
Tennis / Mannarino v Youzhny : Match Odds     28-Oct-11 16:00     28-Oct-11 18:28    15.20
Tennis / Starace v Tipsarevic : Set Betting     28-Oct-11 11:15     28-Oct-11 14:10    7.60
Tennis / Starace v Tipsarevic : Match Odds     28-Oct-11 11:15     28-Oct-11 14:10    6.81
Horse Racing / Newm 28th Oct : 7f Mdn Stks     28-Oct-11 13:50     28-Oct-11 13:53    -0.03

I also have another £15 bet on Pakistan winning the cricket, so that will be another £20 back into the account if they win. If they dont win my P+L will be down £15.

Anyway - Profit for 28/10/2011 - £41.28

Delighted, excellent day. Will update later tonight for todays profit or loss.
Report frederickforsyth October 29, 2011 2:43 PM BST
thats a good day mate. in the boozer last night were you?
Report Redbull5 October 29, 2011 9:00 PM BST

Oct 29, 2011 -- 8:43AM, frederickforsyth wrote:


thats a good day mate. in the boozer last night were you?


Ye buddy a great day, todays been even better. Great luck recently. Yep was boozing last night. I have to say i was in some state, but the benefit of being young lol. Will post up todays totals shortly

Report Redbull5 October 29, 2011 9:54 PM BST
Totals for 29/10/2011

Horse Racing: £3.80 | Soccer: £57.55 | Tennis: £6.65  Total P&L:  £68.00

Horse Racing / Keenl (US) 29th Oct : R1 6f Mdn Claim     29-Oct-11 18:15     29-Oct-11 18:25    3.80Soccer / Inter v Juventus : Over/Under 4.5 Goals     29-Oct-11 19:45     29-Oct-11 21:42    6.65
Soccer / Inter v Juventus : Match Odds     29-Oct-11 19:45     29-Oct-11 21:39    4.46
Soccer / Barcelona v Mallorca : Over/Under 5.5 Goals     29-Oct-11 19:00     29-Oct-11 20:52    5.70
Soccer / West Brom v Liverpool : Over/Under 2.5 goals     29-Oct-11 17:30     29-Oct-11 19:30    2.82
Soccer / West Brom v Liverpool : Over/Under 4.5 Goals     29-Oct-11 17:30     29-Oct-11 19:30    5.94
Soccer / Burnley v Blackpool : Over/Under 3.5 Goals     29-Oct-11 17:20     29-Oct-11 19:15    7.30
Soccer / Hearts v Kilmarnock : Match Odds     29-Oct-11 15:00     29-Oct-11 16:59    10.30
Soccer / Sunderland v Aston Villa : Match Odds     29-Oct-11 15:00     29-Oct-11 16:53    9.63
Soccer / B Munich v Nurnberg : Over/Under 2.5 goals     29-Oct-11 14:30     29-Oct-11 15:10    4.75Tennis / Azarenka v Zvonareva : Set Betting     29-Oct-11 14:15     29-Oct-11 17:26    6.65

Daily Totals

26/10 - £500:00
27/10 - £527:82
28/10 - £552:52
29/10 - £593:77
30/10 - £661.77

Delighted with progress so far - Hopefully i can continue and luck will be on my side!
Report frederickforsyth October 29, 2011 10:06 PM BST
good day well done. done any lays yet?

any thoughts on tmrw's sporting action?
Report Redbull5 October 29, 2011 10:16 PM BST
Thanks mate, yep about 80-90% of my bets now are lays, especially on football and set betting on tennis. I dont plan much, just do in play on goals and sets etc. Probs go overs on tottenham tomorrow! And will be watching the tennis thoroughly, can make a load on tennis if you get the right odds for each at the right time! Good luck though.
Report frederickforsyth October 29, 2011 10:23 PM BST
yeah not one losing bet above. sterling effort Happy
Report undern October 30, 2011 1:15 AM BST
Firstly congratulations on making some nice profits.

I must admit I am still amazed how you posted two comments on a thread saying that you had an unders bet inplay - which didn't show up in your p&l for that day. Your inital explaination being that as soon as you saw the 1,2 then 3 goals go in you decided against the bet .... but the first goal went in some 30mins after your post Confused. I personally think you had an under 3.5 goals bet then when the goals went in - in quick succession you went all red (which you mentioned you did in an earlier bet) to reduce your liabilities ... but only really you know ...

So these are your daily totals ... however I was wondering why they don't add up to the daily p&l statements. Likewise you mention a cricket bet (Pakistan) which would have been settled during the afternoon (29th) but doesn't show up in your p&l statement nor does it show up in your updated bank total .... Confused

Daily Totals

26/10 - £500:00
27/10 - £527:82
28/10 - £552:52
29/10 - £593:77
30/10 - £661.77

All the best with your challenge.
Report Redbull5 October 30, 2011 11:17 AM GMT
Hi Undern, what must of happened is that on the thread for the game, i game my opinion on what the verdict would be and said i had backed unders or overs, what ever it was. But i did not put the bet on the game, must of changed my mind etc i dont know. I couldnt of red out as there was no bet!

As for the Profit and loss statements, they are a day ahead, on 26th i started with £500 and won £27.82 which i carried forward to the 27th. Etc

As for the cricket, it is a series bet so it isnt complete yet, i put £15 on at 1.35, so as its still open i havent lost it, but my bank is -£15. If i do win or lose, i will include that Profit or loss on the day that the bet is completed.

How do you mean my Profit and Loss doesnt add up?

Cheers man
Report undern October 30, 2011 11:39 AM GMT
Redbull5 - yep like I said if you add up your p&l figures they don't match up with your daily totals Confused

As for cricket bet - okay so it is a series bet (good luck with it by the way) .... can you post up the actual bet for me. thanks
Report Redbull5 October 30, 2011 11:43 AM GMT
26/10 - £500:00 - On 26th i won £27:82
27/10 - £527:82 - On 27th i won £24.70
28/10 - £552:52 - On 28th i won £41.25
29/10 - £593:77 - On 29th i won £68:00
30/10 - £661.77 - This will be todays winnings?

What doesnt add up??

Cricket bet!

Pakistan v Sri Lanka / Test Series / Series Winner    Pakistan    Back    16910281707    28-Oct-11
14:09         1.33    15.00        1.33    28-Oct-11 14:10
Report dlarssonf October 30, 2011 12:37 PM GMT
undern fast becoming as ignorant and as much as a troll as paulmeCry
Report undern October 30, 2011 1:01 PM GMT
dlarssonf - please don't call me ignorant. I was reminded a good number of times by various contributors that my (and I guess other challenge threads) are open to questions from others ... so I guess I am trying out what others have done to me ...

What got my interest was (if you read my posts) - was how the OP could post on a football thread (twice) that he put on a bet and then with his (first) explaination of why he didn't put it on was that he noticed that goals went in (and hence decided not to do it) however like I have pointed out the goals went in some 30mins after his posts .... which basically leads me to the explaination being far from the truth ....

Why would you post that you have an unders bet on then 8mins later post another comment that you are hoping to green up so hoping for no goals etc) when in actual fact you didn't have a bet on at all .... I find that bewildering to say the least ....

OP - you posted up day 2 p&l total as follows ....

Horse Racing: -£63.30 | Soccer: £26.94 | Tennis: £61.01  Total P&L:  £24.65 which is a small amount different to what you are saying you made ... so one of the figures must be made up ... ie: either your p&l figure is made up or the running totals must be made up ...

so that is simply what I asked you about ...

All your bets have been current or upcoming matches not series wins - that is simply why I asked about your cricket bet ...

Anyway I don't wish to get in the road of a good challenge thread so this will be last time I post on here ... all the best Cool
Report frederickforsyth October 30, 2011 1:03 PM GMT
Laugh

undern you havn't always posted up bets on demand as you are now doing to red bull
Report undern October 30, 2011 1:28 PM GMT
I have asked him to post up one bet .... Confused ... not the 100's that you keep requesting .... Laugh ..... good luck with your bets Paulme (whoops I mean following others as you have no ideas of your own Whoops )

enough said ...
Report undern October 30, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
saying that dlarssonf is although far from the truth about his observations about me ... correct in what he is implying. there is no need for me to question the OP - as what he does or does not do has no bearing on me ....

However I do see a number of challenge threads start but then all of a sudden the OP disappears .... without explaination (either they went bust or decided not to continue) which to be honest I find frustrating as sometimes when I am doing it tough I like to read other genuine challenge attempts for inspiration ....

I hope the OP achieves what he set out to do and enjoys the journey he will go through ...

definitely enough said. Laugh
Report frederickforsyth October 30, 2011 1:48 PM GMT
i agree about the failed threads. only yours that keeps going so keep it up!
Report Redbull5 October 30, 2011 2:07 PM GMT
@ undern - fair enough, i think i was 5 pence out on my profit and loss compared to my actual bank! i have posted up every single bet i have done since starting this challenge so i havent cheated or anything. I dont see why you wont post on here again! i havent done anything and you seem to be worrying about other people than yourself - especially losing about £1000 in 2 days!

Guys, i dont want any trouble here or arguing, i simply want to make some money and im writing a diary to keep motivated and show others how i am doing.

Il post up todays totals later, and il do my profit and loss from the exact day from when my challenge started to show how i think my totals are correct. Also, if i go bust i will 100% happly admit it, i wont be running away.

Cheers
Report frederickforsyth October 30, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
ok Red Bull so where's ya money today mate?

oh and Undern can make back £1000 easily, unlike most
Report frederickforsyth October 30, 2011 2:13 PM GMT
enjoying this thread mate so keep it up!
Report Redbull5 October 30, 2011 2:21 PM GMT
Money on Tennis today mate, been ok so far. Also got a little on the cardiff and leeds game and i have backed over 1.5 on spurs game.

Ah yes i know, shouldnt have put it, i wish we could put all this crap behind us (me and undern) especially when i show my totals tonight for my challenge.

Cheers Fred,
Report Robinson_83 October 30, 2011 9:50 PM GMT
Hi Red, just found your thread, good luck! I'll have a read later and see how you're getting on.
Report ;[p October 30, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
GL buddy,

and never chaseWink
Report Redbull5 October 30, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
Update for 30/10/2011

Ice Hockey: -£10.47 | Soccer: £35.01 | Special Bets: £11.40 | Tennis: £63.67  Total P&L:  £99.61

Ice Hockey / Boston @ Montreal : Money Line (Inc. OT)     30-Oct-11 00:05     30-Oct-11 01:47    -10.47
Soccer / Feirense v Sp Lisbon : Over/Under 2.5 goals     30-Oct-11 20:15     30-Oct-11 22:06    7.36
Soccer / New York Red Bulls v Los Angeles : Over/Under 3.5 Goals     30-Oct-11 19:00     30-Oct-11 21:06    11.40
Soccer / Tottenham v QPR : Over/Under 1.5 Goals     30-Oct-11 16:00     30-Oct-11 16:34    12.35
Soccer / Leeds v Cardiff : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 13:15     30-Oct-11 15:08    3.90
Special Bets / Week 4 : Bottom Two     29-Oct-11 20:00     30-Oct-11 20:41    11.40
Tennis / Bolelli v Mahut : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 15:00     30-Oct-11 18:44    5.07
Tennis / Lammer v Chiudinelli : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 13:30     30-Oct-11 18:11    19.98
Tennis / Kvitova v Azarenka : Set Betting     30-Oct-11 15:00     30-Oct-11 17:44    10.45
Tennis / Kvitova v Azarenka : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 15:00     30-Oct-11 17:41    3.43
Tennis / Bryan/Bryan v Mirnyi/Nestor : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 13:45     30-Oct-11 17:10    13.77
Tennis / Tsonga v Del Potro : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 12:30     30-Oct-11 15:12    24.42
Tennis / Cilic v Tipsarevic : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 12:00     30-Oct-11 14:31    -46.60
Tennis / Kubot v Bohli : Match Odds     30-Oct-11 11:00     30-Oct-11 13:17    33.15

New bank total = £761.38

Also expecting £20 from an outstanding bet, but if it loses il be minus £15.

Delighted with progress so far, just need it to continue.
Report Redbull5 October 30, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
And this is my Profit and Loss since i have started this challenge, for anybody who cares, for some reason the time and dates wont copy but its from,

16:00 hours on 26/10/2011 - 22:44 on 30/10/2011


Horse Racing: -£48.13 | Ice Hockey: -£10.47 | Soccer: £125.52 | Special Bets: £11.40 | Tennis: £183.06  Total P&L:  £261.38

Cheers fellas
Report frederickforsyth October 30, 2011 11:26 PM GMT
yep please post P+L whenever ya can mate. when did you start gambling generally?
Report Henry's hand October 30, 2011 11:44 PM GMT
tbh, tennis is the easiest market to bet on because there arent much big swings, or when they happen, you generally see them coming
Report LordBobbbin October 31, 2011 4:29 PM GMT
Very nice play Redbull. Don't overbet and make sure you step up your bet sizes gradually (you obviously work with quite small stakes, but don't be tempted to increase them dramatically just because some users on here seem to be playing with large banks), and there's no reason why you shouldn't be extremely successful.
Report Redbull5 October 31, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
Fred - will do buddy, started doing the odd coupon a few years back, im on 18 now (sssshhhhh) but not looking to get deadly serious, would like to get the bank upto a few thousand figure after ive conquered doubling my initial £500.

LB - Thanks mate, my liability for any one bet is never over £50, so ive got a chance of always being in profit unless i get a streak of wrong bets, Thanks for the confidence and hopefully i am successful

Layed stoke tonight @2 - cant see them winning, it will end a draw hopefully. Once again il post up P+L later tonight!
Report jackdaw3 October 31, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
lol Whoops
Report coolhand October 31, 2011 7:57 PM GMT
Good luck Redbull5

Have you had to lay Stoke at a slightly higher price than 2.0?  Theyve not touched 2.0 (yet).
Report LordBobbbin October 31, 2011 9:50 PM GMT
You're on fire at the moment RB. Another nice bet there. (Seems most on the forum were laying Newcastle rather than Stoke.)
Report jackdaw3 October 31, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
yep i thought a lay of newcastle was more advisable but well done Red Bull mate
Report Robinson_83 October 31, 2011 10:17 PM GMT
Well played Red, you're getting there nicely. Catch up on an In-play soon!
Report Redbull5 November 1, 2011 12:05 AM GMT
HAD A TERRIBLE DAY

It was my own fault, i was rushing trying make large ammounts of money and it has taught me a lesson to take things slower, also i could have greened out for a 80% profit but i was greedy and then 2 **** penalties came about and i lost £60.

Soccer: -£23.01 | Tennis: -£20.69  Total P&L:  -£43.70

Soccer / Estudiantes v Racing Club : Match Odds     31-Oct-11 22:10     31-Oct-11 23:59    -30.00
Soccer / Alianza Atletico v CNI : Over/Under 3.5 Goals     31-Oct-11 20:30     31-Oct-11 22:24    17.60
Soccer / Stoke v Newcastle : Match Odds     31-Oct-11 20:00     31-Oct-11 21:57    53.67
Soccer / Stoke v Newcastle : Over/Under 3.5 Goals     31-Oct-11 20:00     31-Oct-11 21:42    -63.90
Soccer / Stoke v Newcastle : Over/Under 2.5 goals     31-Oct-11 20:00     31-Oct-11 21:36    -12.00
Soccer / Fenerbahce v Karabukspor : Over/Under 3.5 Goals     31-Oct-11 18:00     31-Oct-11 19:54    10.12
Soccer / Fenerbahce v Karabukspor : Over/Under 1.5 Goals     31-Oct-11 18:00     31-Oct-11 19:54    1.38
Soccer / Fenerbahce v Karabukspor : Over/Under 2.5 goals     31-Oct-11 18:00     31-Oct-11 19:54    0.12
Tennis / Kukushkin v Young : Match Odds     31-Oct-11 18:45     31-Oct-11 21:08    -30.00
Tennis / Pospisil v Isner : Set Betting     01-Oct-11 18:45     31-Oct-11 20:28    9.31

Not too bothered, still up over 40% in 6 days so im on great tract, needed a bad day to get me disciplined again. No worries, back to winning ways tomorro!
Report jackdaw3 November 1, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
i lost £50 aswell mate. good luck tmrw!!
Report Trevh November 1, 2011 1:05 AM GMT
Redbull, I don't want to be a downer but it's extremely unlikely that you'll make money here long term by predicting outcomes of events. You'll have lucky spells and unlucky spells and slowly drown to commission. If you want to succeed you must concern yourself more with the odds you take rather than the selections you make, or you'll just go the same way as nearly everybody else.
Report jackdaw3 November 1, 2011 1:09 AM GMT
that is kinda what i realised when i entered this forum. it's not really about picking winners is it Trev?
Report Trevh November 1, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
No it's not Jackdaw, but few grasp the concept of winning ways.
Report jackdaw3 November 1, 2011 1:30 AM GMT
how come you never post in the profit and loss thread Trev?
Report LordBobbbin November 1, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
I think Trevh is way too smart to get sucked into that thread..
Report Trevh November 1, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
Haha, I just went over and took a look, I see you're Paulme Jackdaw!

I'm not really interested in posting daily P£L, I could be down at the end of a day or up, short periods don't matter to me. Weeks are more important, my last 7 days are pasted below:



Betting Profit & Loss

xxxxxx xxxxxx 01-Nov-2011 02:17

Period:         
Download to Spreadsheet     
?

    (relates to event settlement date)

   

(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)    to


(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)    


Horse Racing: £45.83 | Soccer: £1,555.71  Total P&L:  £1,601.54
Report Trevh November 1, 2011 2:24 AM GMT
For some reason the dates don't copy and paste? Anyway, I would probably post if there was a sensible weekly or monthly P£L thread, not in the footy forum though!
Report jackdaw3 November 1, 2011 2:30 AM GMT
yeah it's wild in there. you full time then?
Report Trevh November 1, 2011 2:33 AM GMT
7 days a week 365 days a year, so yeah I guess so.
Report Redbull5 November 2, 2011 8:48 PM GMT
Hi Guys, been a few days, things have been up and down. I lost £340 over 2 days, literally got so annoyed so started to do big bets, unfortunately they lost. But this has taught me not to get emotional when loosing and not to chase the money.

Today has been a sucessfull day, up over £300 so ive got my money back and will be looking to continue the challenge and reach £1k. Il post up all my totals tonight and just todays bets, there will be too many for the days i havent posted.

Cheers in anticipation!
Report LordBobbbin November 2, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
If you lost £340 in 2 days through big chase bets, how did you manage to make £300 today without putting on big bets?  You were keeping your stakes pretty small over those first few days. If you're being looser with your betting, you might want to draw back a little and try and keep it small and steady.
Report Redbull5 November 2, 2011 10:08 PM GMT
Today has been a success. Yes i did bet big but luck was on my side but from now on its back to normal as im back on tract with my balance. Back to small bets as this has been killing me mentally chasing money. No rush now i can take things slow again. Went all in on a game and greened out and made a mint, contemplated scrapping the thread and taking more money out the bank to recuperate the losses, but took it slow today and got lucky. So its a new beginning i suppose and Mr Careful again.

Today - Soccer: £107.03 | Tennis: £264.60  Total P&L:  £371.63

Soccer / Villarreal v Man City : Sending Off?     02-Nov-11 19:45     02-Nov-11 21:42    -4.80
Soccer / Man Utd v Otelul Galati : Over/Under 2.5 goals     02-Nov-11 19:45     02-Nov-11 21:40    15.81
Soccer / Derby v Cardiff : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 19:45     02-Nov-11 21:39    18.95
Soccer / Inter v Lille : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 19:45     02-Nov-11 21:39    12.07
Soccer / Trabzonspor v CSKA Moscow : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 19:45     02-Nov-11 21:38    30.40
Soccer / Villarreal v Man City : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 19:45     02-Nov-11 21:37    4.37
Soccer / Palermo U20 v Lazio U20 : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 13:30     02-Nov-11 15:33    30.23
Tennis / Bogomolov Jr v F Lopez : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 17:00     02-Nov-11 22:01    31.22
Tennis / Giraldo v Stepanek : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 14:30     02-Nov-11 19:21    35.54
Tennis / Lammer v Baghdatis : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 13:15     02-Nov-11 18:06    36.10
Tennis / Kamke v Kubot : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 12:00     02-Nov-11 15:13    6.95
Tennis / Cilic v Raonic : Match Odds     02-Nov-11 12:00     02-Nov-11 13:44    154.79


New Bank Total = £793.92
Report LordBobbbin November 2, 2011 11:01 PM GMT
Well done for now, but please, don't full bank it again!  That approach always works until the one time it doesn't. And then you're left with nothing.  (You can waste years on this game seeming to get somewhere and then, after a few months, losing everything on an unfortunate full bank job, only to start again with new money, build it up over a few months, losing it all to a full bank job and on and on..)     

Just keep it careful and steady from now on. Even if you have a bad run, keep it steady and work your way back. Don't *ever* full bank it or play massive bets, or you're just going to keep losing in the long term.
Report Redbull5 November 3, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
Hi mate, so far im -£9 but there is one last game on tonight so attempting to make a small profit, delighted as i was in a deep lose at one point today, i will post up figures and a explanation later after the last game.
Report Wicked Whisper November 4, 2011 11:53 AM GMT
Matter of time, sunshine!

All the best.
Report Redbull5 November 4, 2011 12:36 PM GMT
03/11/11
Report Redbull5 November 4, 2011 12:38 PM GMT
Horse Racing: £0.40 | Soccer: -£26.74 | Tennis: £41.23  Total P&L:  £14.89

Thats my bank up to £808.81


I will update later tonight for todays bets as im nightshift tonight!
Report Wicked Whisper November 5, 2011 5:05 PM GMT
Do anything on Djoko match?
Report Wicked Whisper November 5, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
Or the Delpo match? Mm mm?
Report Redbull5 November 5, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
Long Update and its a sad one! been on a very bad streak and lost alot.
Report Redbull5 November 5, 2011 7:30 PM GMT
Will update my figures tomorrow afternoon, as im away to work, but yeh not good, need to stop betting on tennis as ive lost alot on it and i do ok on footy! my own fault. Sorry if i havent kept the thread up but we will wait and see
Report jorgeburns November 5, 2011 7:45 PM GMT
unlucky RedBull mate. tennis can be a bitch
Report jorgeburns November 6, 2011 10:38 PM GMT
Red Bull?
Report Craigyboy77. November 6, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
This will end in disaster. He had £500 liability in laying Bordeaux. No discipline at all
Report Craigyboy77. November 6, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
This will end in disaster. He had £500 liability in laying Bordeaux. No discipline at all
Report Wicked Whisper November 7, 2011 11:33 AM GMT
Yeah, started off well, got greedy and hit some bad results. Same old same old.
Report Good for nothing November 7, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
he lost 650 on djoco the other day i think he posted 650, to much all in just a lucky looser ;)
Report Cooee November 7, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
Going all in simply doesn't work. It's only when you stop playing those occasional (but potentially destructive) huge bets that you can work out how to make your system operate effectively. Everything up to that point is just throwing your money down the drain.
Report Redbull5 November 7, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
Hi Guys, sorry for no update in a while, yes i got off track and started to get really greedy, upped the bets and lost lots. I feel that im going to start again but i still have some on my origional stake left. I feel i rushed myself in order to make lots which obviously isnt the way.
Report Redbull5 November 7, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
Also, my total now is 600, but 250 of that is more money i deposited, so i am 350 of the 500 i had originally. Im looking to get to £750 and do a 5k challenge over 1 year. Some people will think i wont last a week never mind a month, but because i lost the first one and got greedy im more determind not to get that bad again. Im going to put a link to the new thread when its done, i feel that because i have cheated by depositing more i cant carry on this thread. And that im looking for a new challenge to get me going again.

Most will think ive failed, which i have, but please have faith, this next one will not be a fail - believe me.

I will link to my new thread when its started next few days, all of you are wecome to share your views etc and help me along the way, keep me on track.

Thanks
Report undern November 7, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
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Also, each bet i will post up and show my winnings and losses. Most people will think "not another one of these threads" but hey ho


Yep these challenges aren't easy (I should know) ... so you ended up starting with £500 and ended with £350. Therefore could you kindly post up all your bets for your challenge - it is a simple copy and paste job so should take you a couple of minutes - as apart from posting that this is what you would do - it would be of interest to all your followers and it will most probably help you in deciding how best to move forward with your next challenge.

all the best for your new challenge.
Report Redbull5 November 7, 2011 10:37 PM GMT
Here is a new link for my new thread if anybody would like to follow, a new begining and hopefully to get back on track.

Undern, erm no, im onto my new challenge which im concentrating on, im not wanting to have anymore arguments on this thread as its done now and yes i did fail, im not being okward just want to put this thread behind me and get on a good streak again!

http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28669735/my-5000-challenge?sdb=1#flvWelcomeHeader

Thanks all
Report Craigyboy77. November 7, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
HappyRedbull,

Why don't you try & complete this thread with the £350..??? It can surely be easily done by end of November.??

If you don't have the discipline to double £500 to £1000 you most certainly are not going to have the patience to get to 5k.!!

As for Undern's request. I think you are avoiding showing your statement because you are ashamed of the crazy way you have  been gambling/chasing.

All the best for your new challenge, i think you'll need it
Report Redbull5 November 7, 2011 10:54 PM GMT

Nov 7, 2011 -- 4:49PM, Craigyboy77. wrote:


Redbull, Why don't you try & complete this thread with the £350..??? It can surely be easily done by end of November.??If you don't have the discipline to double £500 to £1000 you most certainly are not going to have the patience to get to 5k.!!As for Undern's request. I think you are avoiding showing your statement because you are ashamed of the crazy way you have  been gambling/chasing.All the best for your new challenge, i think you'll need it


yeh your right i am, had full bank bets etc, crazy bets, but its my business, and im wanting a fresh start and will post all the things from now on on request on my new thread.

Report Trevh November 8, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
Redbull5 : Most will think ive failed, which i have, but please have faith, this next one will not be a fail - believe me.

Sorry to say that it's long odds on that it will be a fail Redbull, believe me, and each time you will come back with a new bank. Nothing wrong with that if you can afford it, and what you learn (or not) each time you fail will determine whether you'll eventually make it or not. Please don't take that as patronising, it's just the simple truth.
Report Redbull5 July 4, 2012 11:53 AM BST
:-( I was a very bad punter! Back with a vengeance.

Will see my new thread shortly, and it's going to be trading, no punting on sports I don't know!
Report raspberrybottom July 4, 2012 12:55 PM BST
Good luck, Red!

Take on board the wise comments/advice you've had on
this thread and you're in with a chance! Happy

Hope it goes well for you.
Report slayerofthe'kins July 4, 2012 1:14 PM BST
All in whenever Frankel runs.
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