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it's pretty hard to accept that you lost your house to a bot
![]() this is the way the world is going now, we are getting increasingly obsolete when it comes to making money, any kind of economic activity will simply become an arms race between ever more sophisticated computer programs. I can imagine that the bots on here are pretty prehistoric compared to the ones being used on the stock market, which is quite scary when you think about it. Eventually though they'll catch up and betfair will simply become a geek fest and a war between programmers (if it hasn't done so already) |
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The bots will eat themselves
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Treat shares as long-term investments, then there's zero reason to be concerned.
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Back in 2002/3 a number of these "flash crashes" occurred. I would always get phoned up by my broker about 10 minutes afterwards and they would recind all my trades
claiming that they had been informed by the NYSE that a fat fingered trader had pressed the wrong button. A sort of 'palpable error' get out clause that they have.This trade cancelation cost me about £10k in profits, but the one time I actually lost £480 in one of these crashes, they were in the process of going thru my trades over the phone and realised cancelling them would cost them £480 instead of me, they suddenly changed thier tune and let the trades stand. The whole playing field has changed lots since then. The major one from a one mans outfit like myself point of view is front running. Orders used to go stright to the exchange, and either get filled or sit as an offer on the market. But now there are 4 or 5 operations which sit infront of the market, The order is intercepted by them and they can decide if they want to match your order, or send it to the market. In practice what happens is they front run your order, sending their own order with a little built in margin first and thus preventing a general punter ever getting the best price or getting matched at all in the event of a sustained movement. One of best lessons I learned from the stock market was that the old phrase "don't count your chickens till they've hatched" needs the additional "Hatched, grown up, and you've cooked, eaten and shat them out... only then can they be counted" addendum. There's no such thing as a level playing field in the stock market. |
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Anaglogs Daughter your post 11.47 A very good read and many good points.. but its all about winning money so just lump on this nag Hamilton 4.10 Strong Man win and place thank me later forget the bots forget the traders lump on
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Considering betfair can only survive on making small charges on winnings as opposed to taking all losses as in bookmakers, surely the onslaught of bots since day 1 has pushed betfairs profits down
considerably, as BF rely on all the money ping ponging between customers to make an effective profit that allows them to be betfair and survive, is it any wonder that premium charges have been brought in to arrive at a post breaking point with these techno-punters activities. |