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By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 15:52
cat flap if you have a wife seriously ask her what EP means? if she gets it wrong she's a dumber than a cleaning lady. probably don't as your an unfriendly git.

if you're (more likely) not married the same applies to your mother.

HTH
By:
catflmasppo
When: 04 Sep 11 15:57
So now your insulting me, my non-existent wife and my mother?
By:
aueng
When: 04 Sep 11 15:59
this thread was good. now its not Sad
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 15:59
only because you started it

i'm here to be nice and friendly. you should try it
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 16:01
but yes your logic is that anyone who doesnt know that EP = early prices is dumber than a cleaning lady from a 70s sitcom.

ask your best mates and your family yes and report back please as to who fits your criteria?
By:
catflmasppo
When: 04 Sep 11 16:04
Actually I didn't say that if you read up.
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 16:05
you said i remind you of peggy from hi de hi, on the back of my unknowing of what EP stands for... no?
By:
catflmasppo
When: 04 Sep 11 16:12
No, I just said you remind me of Peggy.  I didn't say why.
By:
dlarssonf
When: 04 Sep 11 16:15
Another thread ruined by this complete idio tCry
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 04 Sep 11 16:16
Paul, anyone who had been doing horse racing for eight months, as you have, should be able to work out what EP means.  If you haven't, it's probably because you can't soak up basic information. This isn't an isolated case - you've had to ask the meaning of several things that would have been obvious had you read up a little (hence your argument with Birdy).
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 04 Sep 11 16:17
Sorry dlarssonf. I'll stop posting here, and hopefully Paul will do likewise...
By:
dlarssonf
When: 04 Sep 11 16:26
Wasn't aimed at you Lord Bobbin, I find your posts helpful and sincere
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 16:27
yep until someone doesnt know something and he turns nasty on them.
By:
aueng
When: 04 Sep 11 16:33
surely u could have guessed( or taken a guess) at what ep meant tho paul??
By:
catflmasppo
When: 04 Sep 11 16:36
The nastiest posts on here are from you, paulme.
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 16:38
yep. in self defence
By:
catflmasppo
When: 04 Sep 11 16:41
lol
By:
catflmasppo
When: 04 Sep 11 16:54
There was me thinking it was a documentary about ramadan
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 16:54
Laugh
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 04 Sep 11 19:11
unwise from paulme.

miss cathcart will be furious.
By:
paulme
When: 04 Sep 11 19:17
Laugh

yeh well how dare she not know EP. disgraceful
By:
aueng
When: 05 Sep 11 09:25
maybe u could follow winning teams/sportsmen mikenz , eg barcelona, seb vettel , nadal etc chances are they will win more than most times. tiger woods in his day.
By:
paulme
When: 05 Sep 11 12:16
true aueng but short odds arent they
By:
aueng
When: 05 Sep 11 12:53
can it go much worse than how u doing??
By:
Plechy
When: 05 Sep 11 23:11
Someone I know well, who has a lot of experience of Betfair as part of a group of punters who work together, once told me that he reckons if he had a starting bank of £100k he could easily win £300 per day simply by laying every favourite horse for £300 in each race.

He does not have a particularly good knowledge of horseracing either. He said he would not study form, conditions, seek advice or tips, or do any kind of research before every race. Just check the result.

He said that he would stop betting each day as soon as the first lay (to stakes of £300) was successful. It could obviously happen in the first race of the day or the last. This would clearly require a lot of self-discipline because after winning £300 in race one, there would be a big temptation to roll the dice again in race two, rather than wait till the next day's bet.

He mentioned this scenario because he is soon due to release £100k equity from his house and this is the plan he has had in mind.

Of course, people who know these things on here will swiftly point out that if you laid every fave in every meeting in the UK, you would actually lose money over the course of the year. When I pointed this out to my mate, he said that the key to him succeeding was that he wouldn't lay every fave, only as many as it took each day to bag his first winning lay.

He further argued the point that (not sure if this is correct) but faves have only once won every race on the card in a UK meeting.

It's a bit off topic, but my mate's £100k starting bank addresses the OP's question.
By:
howardisawinker
When: 05 Sep 11 23:48
Assuming the first 2 favourites won at odds against, then the 3rd one lost (won for your mate) would he stop at a loss for the day, or will he be aiming to make £300 a day?
By:
john2179
When: 06 Sep 11 00:10
With a bank of £100,000 in theory as your friend said, would he just keep on doubling his stakes until he is 300 in profit.

E.g. First horse is 2/1 so he lays it for a liability of 600 to make 300.
It losses and he is happy for the day.

If it wins then he is down 600. The next race the favourite is 2/1 again. Is he going to lay it for a liability of 1800 to win 900. His 900 win minus the 600 loss. Happy for the day again.

But my thinking is it wouldn't take many winners in a row to be balls deep in trouble.
By:
TheInvestor2
When: 06 Sep 11 00:24
Plechy, are you joking? Your friend is risking his house on this harebrained scheme?

He is talking nonsense, so please do your best to convince him of the futility of his plan.
By:
Paul.Merson
When: 06 Sep 11 01:08
I've heard some strange ones in my time but this just about takes the biscuit...


Needs so much luck for that to work for a short while and he will only make 100k profit a year if it works...

Easier ways to double his money over a year then this way....
By:
coolhand
When: 06 Sep 11 01:19
ding ding ding ding

We have a winner
By:
Trevh
When: 06 Sep 11 02:22
Plechy : Of course, people who know these things on here will swiftly point out that if you laid every fave in every meeting in the UK, you would actually lose money over the course of the year.

So why not back them?

When I pointed this out to my mate, he said that the key to him succeeding was that he wouldn't lay every fave, only as many as it took each day to bag his first winning lay.

So his method will only be successful if the random sequence of results is in his favour for a long period. Not good.
By:
Beat The OverRound
When: 06 Sep 11 06:17
Still the same environment, nothing ever changes here.
There are two brigades, the clowns and insulters, and the "what about this" guys that have no idea, put in no research and just hope to get lucky.
What does amaze me, is that if one looks past all the insults and drivel, there are some clear winning strategies posted on this forum, yet it seems most have not caught on!

In fact, even if you're a muppet with no ability, there are click and win strategies.

No you can't win layiong every favourite, you can't win laying the draw, you can't win martingale staking, and you can't win spending all your time trolling the forums.

Seeing as it's happy hour...

1. Lay the field at SP to set liability and earn greater than 5% after commission.
2. Lay the field up to $9.00 limit and earn greater than 10% after commission.

If you can't stand the highs and lows, then get out and get a job.

Click and win - simple.
By:
TheVis
When: 06 Sep 11 08:30
Plechy please tell us you are fishing?  If not just ask your mate to give the 100k as soon as he can as it least it will be going to somebody he knows.
By:
aueng
When: 06 Sep 11 10:17
@beat the overround , hi , i think u would need a big bank for this yes? as some horses odds must be high if same liabilty for the whole field?
By:
aueng
When: 06 Sep 11 10:36
or anybody? i normally only do football , just had a look at the horses , some of the odds are pretty high [smiley:crazy]
By:
Plechy
When: 06 Sep 11 10:57
howardisawinker & john2179: My mate's plan would be to make £300 per day, by doubling stakes until he bagged a winner if necessary, and then stop there. Start again the next day by laying faves to win another £300. That's the discipline, not to get too greedy by winning £300 and then laying in the next race in the hope of winning another £300. The 'balls deep' fear is why he reckons he needs a starting bank of £100k.

TheInvestor2: He's not risking his house - he has a nice place to live and would simply be using his half of the equity from a divorce settlement on his and his ex's property (which she still lives in).

Trevh: You wouldn't back every fave for the same reason you wouldn't lay every one. Both result in overall losses.

Paul.Merson: 'So much luck'? As my mate argues, faves have won all 7 races at any one meeting anywhere in the UK only ONCE in racing history. So by that reckoning, his worst case scenario is that he finally wins in the 8th race! Hence he needs £100k to weather any potential storm and on the basis that history could repeat itself!

Beat The Overround & TheVis: BTO - my mate's not the patient kind to sit there, glued to racing all day, trying to make returns from race after race. Each to their own.

I know absolutely nothing about horseracing, so I'm certainly not 'fishing'. Wouldn't bet a penny on anything with four legs and where the strong potential exists for jockeys, trainers, owners and Uncle Tom Cobbly to bet anonymously against their own runners through the exchanges with impunity.
By:
nairda
When: 06 Sep 11 11:03
i had one pro friend that use to bet black at roulette and try to win 1% on each bet...I haven't seen him for some time, I wonder what happen to him Grin
By:
dlarssonf
When: 06 Sep 11 11:36
He went colour blind?
By:
dizzydavid1
When: 06 Sep 11 12:10
"Harebrained scheme" lol. Plechy, tell your mate I have a scheme that might interest him. A guy in Nigeria is trying to get £65 million out of the country, all your mate needs to do is make a downpayment of £12k and he'll be in for a big share of the millions. It's a 'sure thing', should appeal to your mate.
By:
Chosen®
When: 06 Sep 11 12:14
He mentioned this scenario because he is soon due to release £100k equity from his house and this is the plan he has had in mind.

If you really know this person well, acquire a length of rope and tie him to a permanent fixture before administering as many slaps as you deem sufficient to get him to snap out of it. His plan sucks. Tell him to hold on to his equity.
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