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By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 14:12
and by the way if I want to offset the premium charge its a peice of cake, I turn my knowledge of form factors and prediction modelling on the horse racing market which is ten times the volume of trade be it on less races excluding overseas racing, or should I look into football which is booming.

its a winners playground on here and you all know it
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 14:13
well you lot stop crying like babies and go earn yourself some money
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 14:15
What do you think I've been doing to be liable for PC?  Derr
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 14:18
layer i do read posts and i know your doing well, and good luck to you
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 14:20
so you make money layer and dont have to pay tax, cant see why you can complain, just raise your game and make yourself and betfair more money so they can help all the users and the company, we all have to do out bit.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 14:24
Thanks, fanatic. This is just an exchange and there are others.
I saw you posted that bet tor  dotcom looked alright. Check their comm structure, it's even worse than here.  Good luck with your system.
By:
thankyoumugs
When: 22 Jul 11 14:25
bf fanatic, is bringing whole new meaning to refer to earn, how much they paying you for sing there praises all day and everyday, is it a short term contract.?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 14:31
well the only money i will get from betfair is when i am succesful and paying comms and pc and still making a profit which will do for me, i trust they are managing the only business that will allow winners, an exchange and because I have a brain I know that slagging them off is counter productive, they dont do it with you so why do it to them!
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 14:44
"the only business that will allow winners"  Please fanatic, now you are talking sh!t.  If anything, they are the only exchange that penalises winners.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 15:19
layer so what should they do then, hand the keys over to the big winners and go home and mow there lawns in the knowledge that only the winners can keep more and more of the money at everyones expense.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 15:22
alot of firms ban bots, have betfair, no , there they go again being fair all the time and doing the best they can, shame on them for being so fair and succesful
By:
weatherman2004
When: 22 Jul 11 15:32
Geez. Look at this guy. Lecturing others to "go earn some money" when he is clearly doing nothing other than posting all day.

Do the other exchanges ban "forum bots"?
By:
dashero
When: 22 Jul 11 15:34
nearly clock out time for that plant , then FAFH will be along to pick up the slack....
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 22 Jul 11 15:39
amI the only one who finds it a bit hard to believe, on the basis of his forum persona, that bff has developed the world's best greyhound system?
By:
dashero
When: 22 Jul 11 15:41
Laugh She stated he had 2p in her account the other day....
By:
dashero
When: 22 Jul 11 15:42
*she!!!
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 15:44
bf_fananatic
22 Jul 11 15:19 Joined: 17 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 186 | Blogger:
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layer so what should they do then, hand the keys over to the big winners and go home


That's the best suggestion you've made yet Laugh
By:
weatherman2004
When: 22 Jul 11 15:45
Of course he has. Obviously someone with such a strategy ready would think "right, let's put that to one side and get posting!"

I do agree with one thing he says though. Providing you have a strategy which is guaranteed to earn several million a year, you should be ok to pay the Premium Charge.

The way forward is simply to develop such a strategy. This can apparently be done by trying a bit harder.

Nae bother.
By:
Mr.Anderson
When: 22 Jul 11 16:10
I think you are correct about Fanatic having clocked out now Hero. Have a nice weekend Fanatic and see you monday morning when you are back in the office:)
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 16:35
average strike rate backing 28%
average strike rate laying  90%
average profit margin backing 40%
average profit margin laying  30%

average point profit per meeting 17-22
average points profit per week 500 plus

cant give you some useful information, there is at least 2 to 3 times the profit to be made
laying then backing as logically there are more losers than winners in any race, q.e.d.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 16:39
upon successful implementation of greyhound using an automated betting system i will embark on the
detail progression to horse racing though the time to get this application in running order is
at least 6 months and maybe as much as 12 months, a hell of a lot of data gathering form filtering
and rating models to wade through!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 16:45
and if lucky enough to make a good profit, god willing, I will glady pay my premium charge to betfair as they are the best betting site in the world!
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 16:51
** head in hands man **
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 22 Jul 11 17:03
does your system involve allowing the greyhounds access to your computer?

would explain a lot imho
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:07
I want to succeed in my future doing something that has been a love of mine for 26 years, predicting the result of a greyhound race, I dont want to get banned from a betting company for being too good at what i will do, the new premium charge will make me feel like I am paying my way on here as I dont want to deplete betfairs revenues and cause them harm, the premium charge as is now will ensure that
all good winners are paying there way to ensure that betfair does better than break even with its winners against new money coming in, what you lot are doing is giving betfair a bad name which aint good for anyone. I havent come accross any bad press that says befair are a bad company only praising them for all there achievements, but of course some folk dont like others to get on and I think thats what is going on with a lot of people on the forums here, I have come to terms with betfairs decision and hope that all the fuss dies down and people carry on using the best thing since slice bread for the bettor, betfair, and for those that imagine I must work for them well
when I ever pay my premium charge I will be in a partnership with betfair ensuring that they can power the company to new heights as I beleive there growth is sustainable and its british and
lets give them a break and show some loyalty instead of acting like a load of spoilt children that dont want to pay there way.
By:
dashero
When: 22 Jul 11 17:08
Eventually all plants revert to type!!!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:12
well president that about sums up the level of professionalism that most forum addicts apply to rational statements, where do you reign, some banana republic no doubt
By:
saint-pilgrim
When: 22 Jul 11 17:13
Until he switches to one of his other personalities ...
By:
dashero
When: 22 Jul 11 17:14
Plants and there many personasLaugh....
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:14
dash your sentences are far too small to exhibit any useful I.q. , do a bit of pasting why dont you.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:17
I have noticed its always the same guys mud slinging and passing silly comments, sometimes they break out into grand gestures, but mostly you retort to the lowest form of wit.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:18
maybe you lot work for betquack or lads or hills, who knows
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:21
i have heard the press mention that there are a load of groaning misfits on the forum but there opinions are not taken seriously , I wonder why?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 22 Jul 11 17:26
if betfair has which it does over 3 million users then how come there are say 10 duck eggs continually on hte forums that jump in and pass bad comments about betfair and its policies and there on here all the time, very strange, that means there are millions that arent on the forums and enjoying the services that betfair provides, at least I have tried to stick up for betfair as you wouldnt be able too talk like you do at another site that belong to the company you used.
By:
weatherman2004
When: 22 Jul 11 18:34
too....many....words.....
By:
dashero
When: 22 Jul 11 18:44
rapid onset of meltdown from the latest plantSad.. Lacks the staying power of FAFH...
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 23 Jul 11 03:53
Well that should finish this tread off quite nicely at long last.
Tks.max
What took you so long ?
By:
make me fly
When: 23 Jul 11 05:01
BF_Fantastic, i'd like to hear about your greyhound rating system.



Picking winners or losers isnt what determines profitability, you need to do it at the right value, and with BF's tight markets you will need to be a very good price assessor to win.
By:
BJT
When: 23 Jul 11 07:19
average strike rate backing 28%
average strike rate laying  90%
average profit margin backing 40%
average profit margin laying  30%

average point profit per meeting 17-22
average points profit per week 500 plus

cant give you some useful information, there is at least 2 to 3 times the profit to be made
laying then backing as logically there are more losers than winners in any race, q.e.d.


Oh dear.  You start off by saying your backing margin is better than your laying even with 1/3 the returns, then you suggest because there is more horses in a race you can make 2/3 times more by laying because more horses will lose than win?  rotflmfao...

Let me point out something most here will feel very obvious.  Every option in a market is represented by a statistical chance of them winning the event.  They are all weighted to their ability, conditions, etc etc etc...
A 2.00 horse still has a 50% chance of winning the event regardless if there is 2 horses in the race or 180 horses in the race.

I hope your system that takes the number of runners, and lays anything under that value treats you well.  Greyhound racing (6 runners in UK?), just lay whatever runners you can at under 6.00 and you will make a killing...  rotflmfao

Oh dear....
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