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Long story short after making some nice money on here.
Now 25k down. Is there anyway to turn this around now and what size bank do I need to do it. Should I look at saving up 10k to play with to take a big hit out of this 25k burden.
It's like Im always chasing a loss now and £300 - £500 profit is never enough.
Hard Time ahead.
Now 25k down. Is there anyway to turn this around now and what size bank do I need to do it. Should I look at saving up 10k to play with to take a big hit out of this 25k burden.
It's like Im always chasing a loss now and £300 - £500 profit is never enough.
Hard Time ahead.
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Account is locked with money in it and promotions owed.
They treat all there customers like this?
They treat all there customers like this?
It's a blessing in disguise for you SIR BOND
However, the fact that Betfair have chosen to ban you simply because you made your desperate story public (and as such appear as a blemish on Betfairs good name) rather than keeping it to yourself is shameful.
I can gaurantee you Betfair don't give a t0ss about your well being and if you hadn't posted aboaut it on the forum you'd still be betting. Betfair care about their image and they don't want to be associated in such a direct manner with people like yourself although they are of course aware that pople like yourself must number in the thousands.
However, the fact that Betfair have chosen to ban you simply because you made your desperate story public (and as such appear as a blemish on Betfairs good name) rather than keeping it to yourself is shameful.
I can gaurantee you Betfair don't give a t0ss about your well being and if you hadn't posted aboaut it on the forum you'd still be betting. Betfair care about their image and they don't want to be associated in such a direct manner with people like yourself although they are of course aware that pople like yourself must number in the thousands.
I can gaurantee you Betfair don't give a t0ss about your well being and if you hadn't posted aboaut it on the forum you'd still be betting.
I said to them if I had not posted on this forum I would still be betting and they had no answer.
They have no right to ban me for chasing a loss it's a disgrace. they have made loads of money off me in commison for years yet they treat me like this.
I said to them if I had not posted on this forum I would still be betting and they had no answer.
They have no right to ban me for chasing a loss it's a disgrace. they have made loads of money off me in commison for years yet they treat me like this.
Like I said, you made them look bad so they banned you. they can't be seen to support desperados. They can support desperados but they can't be SEEN to support them. Ya see?
so whose fault is that for telling them?
you said you were thinking of chasing with borrowed money, what did you expect them to do?
you said you were thinking of chasing with borrowed money, what did you expect them to do?
And that's not the point. where is the law to say you have to follow strick rules when betting?
I imagine whoever grassed him did it for some other reason other than his well being otherwise they'd have been in contact with him, spoken to him and tried to help him. Instead they've hit the report button anonymously and got him banned.
You need to stop gambling but I don't agree with the person who got you banned or Betfair for banning you as both of them did it for the wrong reasons.
You need to stop gambling but I don't agree with the person who got you banned or Betfair for banning you as both of them did it for the wrong reasons.
Sorry but they way I have been treated as a customer after all these years of commision they have taken.. is so so wrong.
Anyone that can't see that would be stupid to think otherwise.
Anyone that can't see that would be stupid to think otherwise.
Being treated like this is such an injustice it's worth than losing the money. Sat here fuming.
disagree rocket. if he'd just quietly borrowed the money and gone chasing with it, it's not bf's job to find out where he got the money. but once he tells them by announcing it on here, it's their responsibility to act.
same as if someone mugs an old lady, sticks the money in the bank and bets with it, it's not BF's responsibility. but if they say "I'm thinking of mugging an old lady and sticking it all on horse x", it becomes their responsibility to act.
same as if someone mugs an old lady, sticks the money in the bank and bets with it, it's not BF's responsibility. but if they say "I'm thinking of mugging an old lady and sticking it all on horse x", it becomes their responsibility to act.
sorry that was meant to read worse than losing the money.
You are wrong i never borrowed any money. they reason i was banned was because they think im chasing a loss which everyone on here is doing.
Yeah but viva we all know why Betfair did it.
It was because he created a thread in a busy forum populated by regular punters
It was because he created a thread in a busy forum populated by regular punters
SIR_Bond
19 Jul 11 12:43 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 1,666 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
Don't why I said that.. I earn 20k a year Im only 27.
Bank loan could be an option. If not start with a bank of £100 and
just look to build £5 a day or something.
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case closed
19 Jul 11 12:43 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 1,666 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
Don't why I said that.. I earn 20k a year Im only 27.
Bank loan could be an option. If not start with a bank of £100 and
just look to build £5 a day or something.
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case closed
An option? and is that agaisnt the law NO.
Notice i put an option because it is one.
I have seen people on here start threads with banks they have got from loans. My last go at this with a bank loan etc.
Anyway I don't need to defend myself against you or anyone else for that matter.
Notice i put an option because it is one.
I have seen people on here start threads with banks they have got from loans. My last go at this with a bank loan etc.
Anyway I don't need to defend myself against you or anyone else for that matter.
viva the point is Betfair only took action because it was muddying their name
Not because they care.
Other than that I agree with everything in the thread.
Not because they care.
Other than that I agree with everything in the thread.
Mr Bond, read your thread carefully and the reason they have, rightly imo, frozen your account is apparent. I have heard of other cases where they have done the same (once to a premium customer). If they suspect someone is getting themselves in too deep they have a duty to act and you have given them every reason to think this about you.
SIR_Bond 20 Jul 11 11:39
All the winds wins today.
£3000 on at 1/2.
Thanks.
Gerbs 20 Jul 11 11:54
did you get the bank loan sorted then
SIR_Bond 20 Jul 11 12:02
Yes
All the winds wins today.
£3000 on at 1/2.
Thanks.
Gerbs 20 Jul 11 11:54
did you get the bank loan sorted then
SIR_Bond 20 Jul 11 12:02
Yes
Rocket to the FACE Joined: 28 Oct 08
Replies: 13044 21 Jul 11 16:01
viva the point is Betfair only took action because it was muddying their name
Not because they care.
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I agree. but they were still right to do it.
like all betting companies, if they really cared about losers they'd shut down.
Replies: 13044 21 Jul 11 16:01
viva the point is Betfair only took action because it was muddying their name
Not because they care.
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I agree. but they were still right to do it.
like all betting companies, if they really cared about losers they'd shut down.
Yeap, totally agree.
They were right to do it but they did it because he was brining very public attention to a possible downside of being on Betfair. And Betfair can't have that.
They were right to do it but they did it because he was brining very public attention to a possible downside of being on Betfair. And Betfair can't have that.
their licence depends on shutting down problem gamblers.
1.01 landed.
1.01 landed.
There's the same difference between sir bond and a run of the mill mug punter as there is between an alcholic and someone who has a few beers on a friday night.
Possibly but he certainly isn't the first to overstake or bet on borrowed money.
I didn't see Odwyer getting banned.
I didn't see Odwyer getting banned.
Or Schalke, I guess it comes down to judgement and looking at this thread it seems most people agree.
It comes down to bad press for Betfair.
All their responsible gambling sh*t is a legal requirement. The board didn't sit down one day and discuss 'how can we help our most vulnerable clients'
All their responsible gambling sh*t is a legal requirement. The board didn't sit down one day and discuss 'how can we help our most vulnerable clients'
The case I heard of had nothing to do with bad press, just someone going a bit crazy.
I'm not sure what case you heard
I'm talking about this boy and his bad habits and the fact Betfair took action once it startd to stain their brand
I'm talking about this boy and his bad habits and the fact Betfair took action once it startd to stain their brand
The story (below) appeared in the Irish Independent on 20th July following on from an earlier story this year. It raises a lot of questions (that'll probably never be asked) for the bookmaker(s) involved :
Suspected €1.76m fraud carried out at post office since January
A SUSPECTED €1.76m fraud at a post office began at the start of the year, the Irish Independent has learned.
Internal audits have indicated the accounts at Gorey post office in Co Wexford balanced up to Christmas.
But investigators believe cash began to be siphoned off from the accounts from January and this continued until three weeks ago when the suspected crime was discovered.
Investigators are still trying to fully determine how the suspected fraud was carried out and inquiries in the post office are continuing.
Detectives from the garda bureau of fraud investigation have been called in to assist local officers.
However, gardai are awaiting further detailed briefings from An Post before stepping up their inquiries.
Meanwhile, a senior manager in the Gorey branch, Tony O'Reilly, who went missing as the suspected fraud was uncovered at the end of June, has begun a treatment programme to help him cope with a gambling addiction and has been transferred from the hospital where he initially received medical help.
Gambling
An Post last night confirmed Mr O'Reilly (36) remained on paid leave from his post.
After Mr O'Reilly turned up unharmed in Belfast four days after his disappearance, his family issued a statement admitting that their son had a gambling addiction, which had spiralled out of control in recent months.
Mr O'Reilly had been a heavy gambler for the past few years and had a long spell of success as a punter before his luck deserted him.
It is understood several million euro had been wagered in betting transactions over that period, including winning as well as losing bets. A large proportion of the bets were placed through online and telephone services provided for customers by a bookmaking firm.
In their statement, the family blamed the availability of those facilities for their son's "predicament".
The family said Tony was "a family man, first and foremost" and his gambling in recent months had been secretive and uncharacteristic.
Mr O'Reilly was reported as missing when he left his home in Carlow town but failed to turn up at the post office in Gorey.
He was later located by the PSNI in Belfast and medical attention was sought for him.
The family said they were seeking help for Tony to recover from "this illness, which is plaguing families across the country".
They added they believed the addiction should be highlighted to prevent other families going through the trauma and torment that they had experienced.
Meanwhile, An Post is expected to examine its audit procedures at other post offices around the country after it completes the internal inquiries at Gorey.
Suspected €1.76m fraud carried out at post office since January
A SUSPECTED €1.76m fraud at a post office began at the start of the year, the Irish Independent has learned.
Internal audits have indicated the accounts at Gorey post office in Co Wexford balanced up to Christmas.
But investigators believe cash began to be siphoned off from the accounts from January and this continued until three weeks ago when the suspected crime was discovered.
Investigators are still trying to fully determine how the suspected fraud was carried out and inquiries in the post office are continuing.
Detectives from the garda bureau of fraud investigation have been called in to assist local officers.
However, gardai are awaiting further detailed briefings from An Post before stepping up their inquiries.
Meanwhile, a senior manager in the Gorey branch, Tony O'Reilly, who went missing as the suspected fraud was uncovered at the end of June, has begun a treatment programme to help him cope with a gambling addiction and has been transferred from the hospital where he initially received medical help.
Gambling
An Post last night confirmed Mr O'Reilly (36) remained on paid leave from his post.
After Mr O'Reilly turned up unharmed in Belfast four days after his disappearance, his family issued a statement admitting that their son had a gambling addiction, which had spiralled out of control in recent months.
Mr O'Reilly had been a heavy gambler for the past few years and had a long spell of success as a punter before his luck deserted him.
It is understood several million euro had been wagered in betting transactions over that period, including winning as well as losing bets. A large proportion of the bets were placed through online and telephone services provided for customers by a bookmaking firm.
In their statement, the family blamed the availability of those facilities for their son's "predicament".
The family said Tony was "a family man, first and foremost" and his gambling in recent months had been secretive and uncharacteristic.
Mr O'Reilly was reported as missing when he left his home in Carlow town but failed to turn up at the post office in Gorey.
He was later located by the PSNI in Belfast and medical attention was sought for him.
The family said they were seeking help for Tony to recover from "this illness, which is plaguing families across the country".
They added they believed the addiction should be highlighted to prevent other families going through the trauma and torment that they had experienced.
Meanwhile, An Post is expected to examine its audit procedures at other post offices around the country after it completes the internal inquiries at Gorey.
Sir Bond, I haven't read all the thread, but I think Betfair may be doing you a favour. You should seek advice from GamCare to determine whether or not you have a gambling problem.
tbf, rocket, that's how capitalism works (or is meant to). firms act in their own economic interests within the law, society makes that law to say what it will and won't accept.
BF didn't make the rules, that's just how it is.
BF didn't make the rules, that's just how it is.
If depositing funds with borrowed money is taboo why accept credit cards?
156 posts ( now 157) on this thread.
And I'm called a forum addict ?
And I'm called a forum addict ?
Everybody on here is addicted whether they know it or not 
sir bond back the draw in the cricket England v India, both teams have strong batting line ups and it will piss down with rain not enough time for there to be a positive result.
SIR_Bond
I never laughed at others losing money no.
you laughed every time i lost money..only diff is mine was real...your 25k is pretenndee...
yfdsc
I never laughed at others losing money no.
you laughed every time i lost money..only diff is mine was real...your 25k is pretenndee...
yfdsc
walofs..SIR_~Bond the forum pleb posting utter drivel for days on end...sill leek hunt
The answer to yr question, 'how much do I need to get it back?' is a negligible amount, as small as 100GBP, if you have a winning strategy.
You just compound it upwards.
What punters in yr position (who can't give up) need to do is to find some way of rewarding themselves irrespective of the variance in their results (i.e. the actual reward given by life).
Let's say that you have a strategy which has a expectation of 1.01 for every 1 unit bet. Fifty times out of a hundred it returns 1.04-1 and fifty times it returns zero. Actually you should trade but let's suppose you can't. What you need to do is to find some reward system every time you successfully place yr positive expectation bet and no other.
You can go for something stupid like having a point system with bands; every time you go up a band you give y/s some treat or do something like tie a different rubber band round yr wrist. To make the system even more powerful, award yourself a randomised total between any two figures proportional to how many times (say 10) you want to exercise restraint before you go up a band.
Sounds stupid, but this way you addict y/s to only taking intelligent bets.
You need a winning system before you start and if you haven't found one, cut yr losses and stop gambling.
You just compound it upwards.
What punters in yr position (who can't give up) need to do is to find some way of rewarding themselves irrespective of the variance in their results (i.e. the actual reward given by life).
Let's say that you have a strategy which has a expectation of 1.01 for every 1 unit bet. Fifty times out of a hundred it returns 1.04-1 and fifty times it returns zero. Actually you should trade but let's suppose you can't. What you need to do is to find some reward system every time you successfully place yr positive expectation bet and no other.
You can go for something stupid like having a point system with bands; every time you go up a band you give y/s some treat or do something like tie a different rubber band round yr wrist. To make the system even more powerful, award yourself a randomised total between any two figures proportional to how many times (say 10) you want to exercise restraint before you go up a band.
Sounds stupid, but this way you addict y/s to only taking intelligent bets.
You need a winning system before you start and if you haven't found one, cut yr losses and stop gambling.
SirBOND, if bf have blocked you, they've done you a massive favour.
You are not in the right frame of mind to win.
Cast yr mind back to school, to the spoddiest, more joyless person you most hated, who thought he was so much better than anyone else and probably was, who cared about things everyone else laughed at, who was friendless and an oddball.
This is the person who wins gambling. This is something close to the obsessive, patient, nerdy mindset that never takes bets w/out a very good explanation of why they are on average likely to win and never stakes an amount without it being of optimal size (or smaller, to account for being wrong about the value).
Learn to win without even betting, then come back w/ pennies and see if you can win pennies. Don't bet b/f you don't this, and if you can't win, don't bet full stop.
You are not in the right frame of mind to win.
Cast yr mind back to school, to the spoddiest, more joyless person you most hated, who thought he was so much better than anyone else and probably was, who cared about things everyone else laughed at, who was friendless and an oddball.
This is the person who wins gambling. This is something close to the obsessive, patient, nerdy mindset that never takes bets w/out a very good explanation of why they are on average likely to win and never stakes an amount without it being of optimal size (or smaller, to account for being wrong about the value).
Learn to win without even betting, then come back w/ pennies and see if you can win pennies. Don't bet b/f you don't this, and if you can't win, don't bet full stop.
25k losses are nothing on this site and bf are happy to allow many customers lose this and more. However they need to be 'seen' to be taking a responsible stance in public. There is growing public pressure on government to curb gambling. Many families are in serious debt because of this. The next wave of misery is the targetting of bored housewifes into bingo. Seems harmless yet 1000s can be racked up easily.
True story, around 2003 I was significantly down on bf, I mean big down. I decided to quit it in. After around 3 months I got a personal call on my mobile from a bf employee asking me why I have not used the site for a while and offering encouragement to come back. So much for responsible gaming.
Sirbond. 25k is nothing, however 100k is and doing go down that slippery slope
True story, around 2003 I was significantly down on bf, I mean big down. I decided to quit it in. After around 3 months I got a personal call on my mobile from a bf employee asking me why I have not used the site for a while and offering encouragement to come back. So much for responsible gaming.
Sirbond. 25k is nothing, however 100k is and doing go down that slippery slope
The best way to win gambling is to do so without emotion. The people that win have a good money management system, this is by far more important than the actual strategy you use. It is quite easy to go broke with a profitable betting pattern, and I suspect many people have. Risk vs reward. Simple as that. If you can find that balance, you will do well. If you can't, it doesn't matter how good you can pick winners, you will always be risking too much money on your losers, as such will take away any advantage you had and your bank will be gone.
25k down? Only advice I can give is to take that out of your sentence. Each bet, start again. You lose, realise everybody loses. It is the people that can cop that loss and place their next bet based on their original criteria that will do best in this game. If you are doing that and adding a new criteria on that bet based on emotion, then your bank is already gone, just hasn't happened yet.
Forget about your loss, it is the only way forward.
(Of course, without a profitable strategy, no amount of good money management will turn a profit, but if you are doing this long term, it will certainly take the big losses down and keep you going longer.)
25k down? Only advice I can give is to take that out of your sentence. Each bet, start again. You lose, realise everybody loses. It is the people that can cop that loss and place their next bet based on their original criteria that will do best in this game. If you are doing that and adding a new criteria on that bet based on emotion, then your bank is already gone, just hasn't happened yet.
Forget about your loss, it is the only way forward.
(Of course, without a profitable strategy, no amount of good money management will turn a profit, but if you are doing this long term, it will certainly take the big losses down and keep you going longer.)
Decisions by BF that get more ridiculous all the time...
Someone chasing their losses on BF, who hasn't even borrowed any money gets banned, blimey that should be about 95% of their members then!
Funny how they are happy to let anyone use credit cards to fund accounts (erm that's borrowed money), and play Poker on tables way above their limits....erm using credit cards too....
Someone chasing their losses on BF, who hasn't even borrowed any money gets banned, blimey that should be about 95% of their members then!
Funny how they are happy to let anyone use credit cards to fund accounts (erm that's borrowed money), and play Poker on tables way above their limits....erm using credit cards too....
i know about losing money, been online , bet 365 , betfair and centrebet only in the last 2 years, i know how much ive lost but id say probably 75 percent has been on quick games , casinos etc, bit of fun for a while but became addictive, that blackjack is probably the worst, would say that some of the games like keno or bingo etc are fun win lose or draw.
Now im off them all< only bet on sport and the races very occasionall and i enjoy the challenge win lose or draw< i used to bet on the horses for a long time but just find them all rather boring.
I bet for fun but as in all the things we do we still want to win[or at least we should], but getting to the reason for this thread its probably true that as in all gambling if you spend big you win big and you also lose big and 25k is a lot of money for some, for others its pocket money, its all relevent to how much you have.
What i think is the worst thing about being online is the time you spend on these sites...........for some they are an escape from reality and for some it is their reality, sad but true, i know that ive given betting sites online a thrashing in the last 2 years but am sorting losing some enthusiasm these day but will probably stay here but just spend less time, i always reckon some of those card games were very very addictive but i cant be bothered with the time and money wasting ive done.
One thing i have learnt on betfair messageboards is that there are lots of ppl on here exactly the same so we are not the only ones, i use to read the forums on games etc and the number of guys who got sick of blackjack, winning for a while but ending up back at zero made me realise i wasnt the only one and am happy that ive given them the boot.
Now im off them all< only bet on sport and the races very occasionall and i enjoy the challenge win lose or draw< i used to bet on the horses for a long time but just find them all rather boring.
I bet for fun but as in all the things we do we still want to win[or at least we should], but getting to the reason for this thread its probably true that as in all gambling if you spend big you win big and you also lose big and 25k is a lot of money for some, for others its pocket money, its all relevent to how much you have.
What i think is the worst thing about being online is the time you spend on these sites...........for some they are an escape from reality and for some it is their reality, sad but true, i know that ive given betting sites online a thrashing in the last 2 years but am sorting losing some enthusiasm these day but will probably stay here but just spend less time, i always reckon some of those card games were very very addictive but i cant be bothered with the time and money wasting ive done.
One thing i have learnt on betfair messageboards is that there are lots of ppl on here exactly the same so we are not the only ones, i use to read the forums on games etc and the number of guys who got sick of blackjack, winning for a while but ending up back at zero made me realise i wasnt the only one and am happy that ive given them the boot.
the other thing i was gunna add was i wonder if we are addicted to gambling or if its the internet because thats just as bad.
mikenz the internet must have created more addicts, from my own point of view I have been spending far too much time on here recently so much so that when Saturday and the good racing comes I'm bored and bet less. 20 years ago I used to just bet on the big midweek races and a Saturday maybe 1 decent sized bet, now Im betting 7hours on a Friday to finish level.
Internet + credit cards probably the worst combination ever for getting into problems betting. You can lose a whole credit card's worth of money in one Poker hand or horse-race pretty easy.
steamship i know where you are coming from, before i found the online sites the only place i bet was on the new zealand tab, they were races and sport but all the sport were pre match, so you would take ya bets before kickoff then go do what ever you do in the day.
but with live in play whole different thing, kinda drags you to your computer, as for credit cards i got rid of mine, only use debit card now at least its pay as you go.
but with live in play whole different thing, kinda drags you to your computer, as for credit cards i got rid of mine, only use debit card now at least its pay as you go.
and i still basically bet for fun , its interesting but i dont bet very big but get a lot of enjoyement just the same.
and in a while id like to go back to one or two of the games i liked, keno pop bingo are two i liked but by being lumped in with card games they all had to go, when you play keno you can play for a few dollars or cents but at least you can if you do win win good prizes, have done in the past but cards are out .
internet gets you hooked, betting should be done less often, otherwise you start betting every race, before you know it, end of day drained from all studying, then it feels like a job.
end up wasting your skills, if you have them, no matter what, when betting every race, you will be guessing most of the time, nature of the beast.
end up wasting your skills, if you have them, no matter what, when betting every race, you will be guessing most of the time, nature of the beast.
sir bond back the draw in the cricket England v India, both teams have strong batting line ups and it will piss down with rain not enough time for there to be a positive result.
Gamblers giving betting advice to gamblers.
When will they learn?
Gamblers giving betting advice to gamblers.
When will they learn?
^ of course not.
It's up to any company whether or not they wish to accept your custom. No use wasting money on a solicitor to find that out.
It's up to any company whether or not they wish to accept your custom. No use wasting money on a solicitor to find that out.
Swardean how much were you down at your worst point if you dont mind me asking?
^ u sure it wasnt a lada with a bodykit steve?
Betfair only took action because it was muddying their name
Don't you think they do that enough to themselves with the new charges?
Don't you think they do that enough to themselves with the new charges?
SIR_Bond
07 Sep 11 14:30
Get on McCoy in the last today....... Fully loaded.
Full bet on.
MrHunt
07 Sep 11 14:31
monthly bonus?
or sold the m3 lookalike?
SIR_Bond
07 Sep 11 14:37
5k on. .. more in running
This M3 is no look a like. Its the real deal trust me the petrol bill does not lie.
07 Sep 11 14:30
Get on McCoy in the last today....... Fully loaded.
Full bet on.
MrHunt
07 Sep 11 14:31
monthly bonus?
or sold the m3 lookalike?
SIR_Bond
07 Sep 11 14:37
5k on. .. more in running
This M3 is no look a like. Its the real deal trust me the petrol bill does not lie.
Joined: Date Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 1,785 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
Long story short after making some nice money on here.
Now 25k down. Is there anyway to turn this around now and what size bank do I need to do it. Should I look at saving up 10k to play with to take a big hit out of this 25k burden.
It's like Im always chasing a loss now and £300 - £500 profit is never enough.
Hard Time ahead
So what is the update on this Sir_Bond ???? why don't you start posting up your bets on here or even do your own challenge and show us all how it is done ....
.... public forum and all that
Long story short after making some nice money on here.
Now 25k down. Is there anyway to turn this around now and what size bank do I need to do it. Should I look at saving up 10k to play with to take a big hit out of this 25k burden.
It's like Im always chasing a loss now and £300 - £500 profit is never enough.
Hard Time ahead
So what is the update on this Sir_Bond ???? why don't you start posting up your bets on here or even do your own challenge and show us all how it is done ....
.... public forum and all that
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1.01 Layer Joined: 23 Aug 03
Replies: 2764 19 Jul 11 12:22
Start from zero every time.
The problem for a lot of gamblers is that if they win, they treat the winnings as "fun" money... until it's gone. And if they lose, they want to get back what they lost, so risk more, chasing an irrelevant target.
If it's lost, it's lost. If it's won, it's won. Just try and learn why after each outcome.
GL btw.
i thought this was good advice, even for winning punters!
gl
Replies: 2764 19 Jul 11 12:22
Start from zero every time.
The problem for a lot of gamblers is that if they win, they treat the winnings as "fun" money... until it's gone. And if they lose, they want to get back what they lost, so risk more, chasing an irrelevant target.
If it's lost, it's lost. If it's won, it's won. Just try and learn why after each outcome.
GL btw.
i thought this was good advice, even for winning punters!
gl
I'm now a big player
SIR_Bond 09 Oct 12 11:24 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 4,647 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
I have moved up the ladder and now betting in £1,000's....
It feels good to be part of the elite... biggest best yesterday was 10k...
I look and laugh at you £2 mugs. Have a nice day.
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29422695/im-now-a-big-player
SIR_Bond 09 Oct 12 11:24 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 4,647 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
I have moved up the ladder and now betting in £1,000's....
It feels good to be part of the elite... biggest best yesterday was 10k...
I look and laugh at you £2 mugs. Have a nice day.
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29422695/im-now-a-big-player
SIR_Bond 09 Oct 12 14:39
you mugs enjoy your horse racing im making my living from tennis thanks.
Cricket: £4.53 | Horse Racing: £109.53 | Snooker: -£591.24 | Soccer: -£232.58 | Tennis: £5112.55 Total P&L: £5822.31
Bond any explanation why the total shud be £4402.79 and the comma's are missing?....
yes he's in front..easy edited and kaboom
you mugs enjoy your horse racing im making my living from tennis thanks.
Cricket: £4.53 | Horse Racing: £109.53 | Snooker: -£591.24 | Soccer: -£232.58 | Tennis: £5112.55 Total P&L: £5822.31
Bond any explanation why the total shud be £4402.79 and the comma's are missing?....
yes he's in front..easy edited and kaboom
Have you seen my post from July 21 2011? The business I went into was through my friend and I got used it was a real struggle I gave it up in Feb. I never hit the 10k down and with discipline I'm turning it around, not sure if it's what I can do for long and I've got my first course with Northern Racing College next month.
If you can win, you can start with a £100 bank and (given how many betting opportunities you find) within 1-2 yrs you will be back with a £25k bank. If you can't win, you're just taking a punt on variance, which is best avoided.
You need to ask yourself whether you can win or not, or rather whether you have a winning strategy. And if you don't, you have to walk away and think you've got out lightly.
You need to ask yourself whether you can win or not, or rather whether you have a winning strategy. And if you don't, you have to walk away and think you've got out lightly.
lay man utd @ home 0-3 for a couple of years should get money back.
What happened to the guy? Did he take his losses and get on with his life or blow more than 25k? I've been more than 25k down in three days and it took 13 months to recover my previous high...
Yes, I went on tilt during Cheltenham. I was only targeting making maybe 4-5k on the Festival. I got on a slippery slope after Forpadytheplasterer, a horse I considered a constitutionally weak finisher and a maximum lay, won the Arkle after travelling throughout like the best horse in the race. I laid six other winners, many at big prices e.g. Ninetieth Minute, Silk Affair and Andytown.
I bet much more often to smaller margins and traded more after that.
I bet much more often to smaller margins and traded more after that.
stu 23 Jul 11 10:33 Joined: 12 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 9,649 | Blogger: stu's blog
Decisions by BF that get more ridiculous all the time... Laugh
Someone chasing their losses on BF, who hasn't even borrowed any money gets banned, blimey that should be about 95% of their members then! Laugh
Funny how they are happy to let anyone use credit cards to fund accounts (erm that's borrowed money), and play Poker on tables way above their limits....erm using credit cards too....
Decisions by BF that get more ridiculous all the time... Laugh
Someone chasing their losses on BF, who hasn't even borrowed any money gets banned, blimey that should be about 95% of their members then! Laugh
Funny how they are happy to let anyone use credit cards to fund accounts (erm that's borrowed money), and play Poker on tables way above their limits....erm using credit cards too....
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