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harechaser6
15 Jul 11 12:54
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By:
Get On MASSIVE
When: 15 Jul 11 13:11
It's not acceptable and is unsustainable.

The more Betfair abuse the concept the quicker someone come in to fill the gap. I for one hope they just keep pushing so a new exchange can be born and let Betfair become the bookmaker they crave to be.
By:
ballabriggs
When: 15 Jul 11 13:44
Betfair are good because before if you lose lots of money go to winners.  Betfair now take this money instead, so is good for everyone and help peoples who bet normal.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 15 Jul 11 13:54
Ballabriggs, if you like the sound of a system where you can never win, feel free to set up a direct debit to my account and save yourself lots of hassle.
By:
buzzer
When: 15 Jul 11 14:04
ballabriggs
15 Jul 11 13:44
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Betfair are good because before if you lose lots of money go to winners.  Betfair now take this money instead, so is good for everyone and help peoples who bet normal.


So you joined a, supposed, person to person exchange but find that's not the case but you're very happy to hand over all your money to betfair in one way or another ConfusedLaugh
By:
pxb
When: 15 Jul 11 14:23
In principle bf could be both an exchange and a bookie.

But trying to do both at a single site makes it a confusing mess.

Textbook example of new management coming in and not understanding the business and ruining it.

How quickly a competitor over takes BF will shock people.
By:
ballabriggs
When: 15 Jul 11 15:43
Betfair is best at exchange.  Betfair will be best at bookie too.  Is good for customer we can get bet with Betfair bookie when exchange not have chance to bet if market quiet.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 15 Jul 11 15:56
Are you from planet betfair, by any chance, ballabriggs?
By:
Mr.Angry
When: 15 Jul 11 16:03
The more Betfair abuse the concept the quicker someone come in to fill the gap. I for one hope they just keep pushing so a new exchange can be born and let Betfair become the bookmaker they crave to be.

It's the most important point.  "Brand loyalty" in an online world is almost worthless.  Here today, gone tomorrow.
By:
ballabriggs
When: 15 Jul 11 16:28
Betfair is good brand.  It is best place have bet, with best odds.
By:
dashero
When: 15 Jul 11 16:33
Laugh@ Ballabriggs!!! why are you pretending to be some sort of fcuking martian???
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 15 Jul 11 18:04
I noticed Betduck's liquidity was much better today.
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 15 Jul 11 18:05
It probably only needs 20% more and I'm there.
By:
turtleshead
When: 15 Jul 11 18:11
ballabriggs, if you are going to be a betfair plant at least have the sense to try and disguise it a bit LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
jjjjj
When: 15 Jul 11 18:40
let's hope a new betting exchange ends the betfair monopoly soon. till that day the gamblers who made betfair big, the gamblers betfair owe everything will be 40% abused. i guess it's betfair's way of saying thank you to us. for 10 years loyality, dedicating our lifes, producing fortunes of commission and providing the liquidity to attract new customers.

the message to new customers is clear now: if you win, we will progressively charge you on your winnings, till you don't win anymore.
By:
Rollo Tomasi
When: 15 Jul 11 18:59
https://account.betfair.com/regpay-myaccount/premiumcharge/summary.html

How does anyone's "Total charges" for last week compare with the amount of commission you actually paid?
By:
Mr Magoo
When: 15 Jul 11 20:05
Commission Generated: £716.90
Other Charges:        £0

Actual commission paid over the week: £603.20
By:
mcfc1981
When: 15 Jul 11 21:20
com generated £238
i reckon i paid £280 com
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 15 Jul 11 21:28
Spot on for me

3.10% and 3.096%
By:
mcfc1981
When: 15 Jul 11 21:38
whats the difference between com gen and com paid?
By:
againstthecrowd
When: 16 Jul 11 12:07
exceptable ?
By:
jimmy69
When: 16 Jul 11 12:17
Your account has not incurred Premium Charges. If you become eligible to incur Premium Charges in the future, we will contact you before any charges are paid. If you require any further assistance, please contact premiumcharge@betfair.com. CryCry
By:
greenviking
When: 16 Jul 11 13:52
Harechaser6 is a Betfair employee.Couldnt be more obvious
By:
aspy65
When: 16 Jul 11 13:57
^^^^^^ yeah your probs correct about Harechaser6.

but what about Ballabriggs ?  he must be the magical man from happy land... cause he aint from this planet !
By:
ballabriggs
When: 16 Jul 11 14:02
Must be someone who is best?  Who you think best if not Betfair?  I like WILLIAM HILLS and BET365 too.
By:
aspy65
When: 16 Jul 11 14:15
ballabriggs.... will u get off ur dads betfair account and stop pi$$Ing about !
By:
charlatan
When: 16 Jul 11 19:03
my commission generated has been lower than my commission paid in every week since the charge was introduced.
By:
Rollo Tomasi
When: 16 Jul 11 19:29
mcfc1981
whats the difference between com gen and com paid?

Doesn't it mean you are less likely to have paid 20% charges so they can stick you for the Premium Charge a lot quicker?

e.g. lose £10k pay £2k in commission no need for 20% Premium Charge. However if they only count the £2k commission you paid as £1k (10%) they can take another £1k from you to top it up to 20%? When really it is 30%?
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 16 Jul 11 19:36
If you have 1K at 2.0 and your commission rate is e.g. 2% then commission generated = 2% when you win 3% when you lose (they assume the person you're betting with is on 3%). Since you'll win approximately half the time (on 2.0 shots) your commission generated on such bets will average out at around 2.5%. If you're on 5% on the other hand it will average out at 4%.

If you lock in a profit on every race then your commission generated will work out at half your commission rate as you're generating no commission on the other side.
By:
pxb
When: 17 Jul 11 09:13
Why do you think harechaser is a BF employee?

I can't see it myself.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 17 Jul 11 10:20
He might be worried about redundancy, pxb.Silly
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 19 Jul 11 10:11
my answer is we will probably find out starting from today, the pc charge takes effect now and both liquidity on betfair and share price will be a good indicator in the next few weeks!
By:
pxb
When: 19 Jul 11 11:35
Volume (not liquidity as many people erroneously refer to it) is definitely up at the other place.
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