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PC - Why all the moaning?
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That would be really interesting, Lori. I doubt you can manipulate my bot but you can easily pinch value from it if you're smart enough so I'm sure you're up on me! Luckily there are enough who aren't to cover the costs of feeding the shrewdies ;)
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scarecrow if there are bots working in say frame betting, can u explain to me how
a bot knows if a red is safe on cushion or a pink has been missed in middle etc etc, because i get jumped constantly by bots and they seem to know when to cancel at the right time, when surely if its just a bot they cant assess whats happening on a snooker table or am i just being stupid. i suppose i am. |
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cat just curious have you ever put the wrong info in one of yours.i have little idea about them but as i said in my previous post i have seen some real howlers in the past from some users.the last one was when someone was backing a side in a rl handicap market i think it was +6 for example at a shorter price than they were in the +12 market and did a large amount in perhaps 10 minutes pre off their mistake cost them about 12-15k.
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I don't use bots, but I know how you would build one (Which is entirely different to being able to build one. I understand how programming works but not the languages or way they interface with websites)
Several things you can do and all levels in between. a) Have a human press a number 1 might be a pot with position, 5 might be a horrible miss. Bot then readjusts current prices based on that. b) Steal the odds of winning from one market, and turn those into frame prices. c) Steal the odds of frame prices and narrow the gap by undercutting the odds currently on offer. Getting jumped isn't likely to be bots, that's likely to be people with faster pictures than you (although those people could also be using bots to aid their betting of course) |
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calla you would be better asking someone like cat who uses them i am pretty clueless on them but like lori i do know how to manipulate some of them at times.if they are overound bots i guess they only make offers when their is money on the other side and withdraw their offers as soon as this money vanishes quicker than you can manually.
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scarecrow, the worst thing that happened to me was that betfair loaded some horse racing markets with the wrong start date which caused my bot to think that the race was due to run in a few minutes when actually it was over 24 hours away. Someone spotted this, manipulated the markets and greened up to the tune of about 3k.
Needless to say I added a bit of code soon after to prevent a recurrance. |
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thanks for replying cat.i thought something like that would be the biggest risk.i suppose though over time blips like that will easily be covered.
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catfloppo, can i assume then that as long as u load info correctly, using a bot
is basically printing money or at the very worst you cant ever lose? i assume then u must be on 60% then as surely you must have creamed 250k plus on this site by now surely? |
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Lori, I used to do a bit of the correct score snooker. I just got a bit bored of playing leapfrog with Catfloppo's bot!
Tbh there just wasn't enough liquidity there to make it worthwhile for a manual player. My "edge" (if I could even call it that), was just too simple, so I moved on to other things. It was good for a while though. Last time I played the snooker cs was the 2010 WC final. I remember I left up some offers between the Sunday/Monday, but some storms took out my internet overnight and I was offline for several days. When I did get back on, I was somewhat surprised to see I'd won on that market (although undoubtedly it cost me a fair chunk)! |
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I'm quite a small player so small liquidity can be okay for me when combined with several other outs/markets.
It's certainly very intense, I was a gibbering wreck after this year's event, although I did pretty well on it. Don't think I've EVER been so tired after Betfair action |
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I can relate to that Lori! Not for me anymore. I'm too old
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A lot of assuming going on callataxi and mostly wrong I'm afraid. It's just as hard to make money with a bot, although to a certain extent you can just sit back and watch. I remember there used to be jokes on here about a bot that you could buy for £20 and all you did was plugged it in and told it how much money you wanted to make each day. I can assure you its not like that!
I'm not on 60% as my lifetime rate is 33.9% but yes, I have made over 250k. |
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So it was you, El Bandido....[;)]
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