there is an old saying in business that rings so true, "get too know your customers and there needs"

the reason i say this here and now in relation too Betfair is that Betfair is a maverick and a miracle as it has achieved things that are truly quite amazing, and ok there profit margins may not be as large as the big bookmakers who have been building there success off the back of race courses and there pinching there customers for many decades now but betfair have done it no thrills on the internet in a brilliant way.

my arguement is that it is unfair to throw all the customers into one,two or three pigeon holes based purley on there profit making, what should be happening is that customers are graded by a different system, if they are traders, bookmakers, cheats are average punters they should have there commision charge graded . this would be fair all round and would bring transparency too general policys on charging. too charge potentially any sucessful or hopeful puter the same as a trader or bookmaker that is purging there revenues is unfair and if betfair wants to reclaim its "fair" policys then this is in my mind the fairess way forward. all honest puters would glady show betfair how they achieve there profit, cheats would have no where too hide, traders cant hide the fact that they make many times more bets per minute than normal punters and bookmakers can be sourced with a little investigation or information reward.

punters that use bots are not doing any hard work and are forcing betfair to constantly upgrade there systems , they derserve to pay a higher charge as they can sit back and let the compter do all the work.

cheats deserve nothing and should be banned from the site for good.

bookmakers should pay the fullest rate of premium charge as they are laying off bets probalbly off there account records from there most sucessful punters or liabiltys.

prediction modellers from general napsters too historical race data surveyers should pay a lesser amount as this is who the site was made for and they should still pay premium charge but at a fairer rate as they have worked the hardest for there money.

well if you cannot see the basis for the introduction and sucess of exchange business models is a break away from just plain gambling at fixed odds against a consistent loss in the odds to a fairer model that encourages sucessful exchages and prediction investment then hey yeh, lets stereotype the old way and say that betfair is full of a mixed bag of everything and charge them all the same as people that are breaking the law potentially like bookmakers and race or match fixing account holders .

if only 500 people fit the £250,000 hpc rate then this is a small number too investigate and i am sure any honest punter or trader will show them how they have achieved ther sucess, i doubt very much that bookmakers, account falsifiers, and the like would be able to co-operate the same way and if they cant verify there system then freeze there assets.

The charge should be based on liquidity provided. To charge someone who generates 10% the same as someone who generates 40% is asking for trouble. It's also unfair (and borderline illiterate) to charge someone generating 9.99% 25% more than someone generating 10%.

according to betfair there are at least 500 punters that have made 250,000 plus profit, thats
125,000,000 thats quite alot and letting information out like that plus capitilising on it is opening the back door to the future taxation of all professional  gamblers including lottery winners and the like.

will this be there legacy, betfair, the home of winners helping to promote the butchery of pro gamblers assets.

one thing about ducks is they too have a policy, when the getting fat gets tough and the predators gather, spread your wings and feck off and migrate

yep i agree Feck , its common knowlege on betfair that the bookmakers are using betfair to lay bets with a profit as they have had someone back big in there business, they make a profit weather the base punter wins or loses, it doesnt go through there books so the bookmaker makes a tax free profit!

its tax fraud on a large scale, you only have too look at a night dog meeting and when its a busy event the amounts bet on betfair go up considerably when there is the same amount of average punters betting so there must be contacts betting from trackside too the betfair site, this must account for alot of the horse racing as well, the amounts bet at horses races compared too greyhound races are grossly different.

betfair dont want too lose these fat cats so they wont discriminate what a punter is involved with as they will scare them off from the bookmakers scamming.

so we the honest punters get thrown in a bag with them and if we make a good living we will have to pay the same as them, not fair at all

now the only advantage that betfair can offer is the best odds available too and least commision deducted from the most consistant losers on a platform that can suck your money up the fastest

finacial hoovervile on a dyson level turbo power

i think actually betfair would be more interested in the other board game where the goal is too lose a million the fastest possible way