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Is there anybody else that has had their victor chandler account suddenly closed and without any explanation?
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Yep.
The 'punters friend' only like the losing variety.
The 'punters friend' only like the losing variety.
yep mine closed and friend has his restricted last saturday
They are generally the first firm to close down winners. They are extremely fair in their rulings but hugely selective w/ their customers--if you win, you're shown the door in no uncertain terms.
Imv, better than the restrictions, and a real boon if you know someone w/ a long-term losing VC accnt.
Imv, better than the restrictions, and a real boon if you know someone w/ a long-term losing VC accnt.
fll, I bet yours was on the back of Eurovision? They seemed to love laying decent bets this year on the ESC, until they realised how much they had lost!!
And yet people continue to flock to the HS bookies.
Why I ask ?
Why is there no media outrage over this blatant one sided business practice.?
Could it happen in any other sort of business.?
Why aren't the regulators intervening to stop this practice of shutting down winners, and encouraging losers ?
Why I ask ?
Why is there no media outrage over this blatant one sided business practice.?
Could it happen in any other sort of business.?
Why aren't the regulators intervening to stop this practice of shutting down winners, and encouraging losers ?
yes, had mine closed last week, last winning bet was picking 4 draws (£2 trebles & 4 timer) on the last game of the season. You'd think they'd be happy to keep laying such bets.
fll, I bet yours was on the back of Eurovision?
Closed on the back of Big Brother awhile back.
Took 4/1 on someone for elim who was 2/5 within 30 mins.
Had had plenty of losers with them tho and I think the account overall was in the red.
Closed on the back of Big Brother awhile back.
Took 4/1 on someone for elim who was 2/5 within 30 mins.
Had had plenty of losers with them tho and I think the account overall was in the red.
I was closed down a few years ago, occupational hazard, but then somebody told me, that the same had happened to them and they just reopened without a problem. My card has changed in the time elapsed, so I thought i`d give it a go, and now I`m using them again. Most odd.
I did the same Pounf - changed username and moved off a card onto moneybookers. This was only after a month - they will lay me sports no problem but very wary and restricted on the nags, whereas before I had no problem with amounts, was just shut down out of the blue.
my and 7 of my friends accounts have all been closed
The reason people are still flocking to the high street is so they can get on. We'd be even worse off in a world without shops.
yes i did last week after 10 years of losing i won £500 over 3 months! I am writing to the chairman.
I understand that they are in a bit of a mess. A number of senior traders/management have left the company due to average results and as such it is apparently a rudderless ship. Accounts that should not be closed have been closed including a mate of mine in the city who is a shocking punter. But if you show a profit after your first 5 bets or so you are shown the door...
I understand that they are in a bit of a mess. A number of senior traders/management have left the company due to average results and as such it is apparently a rudderless ship. Accounts that should not be closed have been closed including a mate of mine in the city who is a shocking punter. But if you show a profit after your first 5 bets or so you are shown the door...
Over the past few years I've been Closed down by. VC, billy hills,PP, and heavily restricted by B£3.65, Skyhigh, Toat, Spoilsports,
Baldfred, spattingbet, Bsq, SJ and Badblokes. I really think one of those secret camera documentaries should go under cover to let the public know what's going on. I think most people would be shocked. OP, you may take some comfort in the fact that you are not alone.
Baldfred, spattingbet, Bsq, SJ and Badblokes. I really think one of those secret camera documentaries should go under cover to let the public know what's going on. I think most people would be shocked. OP, you may take some comfort in the fact that you are not alone.
So carn, conclusion from this. Thank God for BF ?
Same here carn, but TBF I can't blame them.
They're not in the business of laying bets to longterm winners.
The PC fooks me off more as I've said in many a thread.
Unlike the bookies, I'm not winning their money.
They're not in the business of laying bets to longterm winners.
The PC fooks me off more as I've said in many a thread.
Unlike the bookies, I'm not winning their money.
five leaves. I see your point,If I was a bookie I wouldn't be very happy with punters winning off me regularly. However, having bookie accounts can be useful, from a punters perspective. The occasions when you want to get on early on at 10/1 and betfair is showing 10.5 for just £10 or so.
yep, I agree the likes of B365 and Sid James are just a joke restricting people to a few pence on a 2/1 shot.
Either close the account or atleast let someone have a tenner or a score.
A few will still lay me to lose a humdred or two depnding on the market.
At that level I reckon it pays them to leave winning accounts open as an early warning system.
Either close the account or atleast let someone have a tenner or a score.
A few will still lay me to lose a humdred or two depnding on the market.
At that level I reckon it pays them to leave winning accounts open as an early warning system.
Agreed, SJ just restricted a friend of mine to winnings of £20. The most he ever staked was £10 win or £5 E/W. Pathetic.
It's also crazy to restrict across different markets.
I bet on specials and can see why they restrict those bets, but a few will carry that restriction to all bets.
I had a few fiver ew yankees at Cheltenham and had no problem with most firms.
B365 offered me a half penny ew yankee
It took me back to the 80's.
I bet on specials and can see why they restrict those bets, but a few will carry that restriction to all bets.
I had a few fiver ew yankees at Cheltenham and had no problem with most firms.
B365 offered me a half penny ew yankee
It took me back to the 80's.
Stan James are the worst at the monent. I know of 15 accounts that have been resricted to interenet only (tiny stakes allowed) in the last 6 weeks. They only accomadate mugs.
Most of the rest are not far behind.
I reckon Lads are the fairest, although 50 is the most i can get on with them.
Most of the rest are not far behind.
I reckon Lads are the fairest, although 50 is the most i can get on with them.
Ladcrooks one of the worst for me.
I'd be lucky to get an even tenner with them on specials.
I'd be lucky to get an even tenner with them on specials.
SJ closed my account last week, was a losing account since August 2010 so made no sense.
Yup, SJ must be on a spree. Closed me up. Winning account though.
SJ closed my account this morning. Balance is zero, unable to check what ante-post bets are outstanding. Had over a grand in the account and no information about where it is. No e-mail or anything informing me of the closure.
Had the account for nearly two decades.
Had the account for nearly two decades.
That's odd screaming, when they 'closed' me, I still have my account, I just can't bet with it. 'Sorry you cannot place a bet'
Same here, W W. I can log in and get a zero balance and the "Sorry ..." message when I try to bet. But the Statement page just said I had no bets, including unsettled ones.
E-mailed them, and got told I should have received an e-mail stating the account was closed. (Checked my Spam folder - I hadn't.) But they have kindly reinstated and allowed me to access my open bets.
Very kind of them.
As nine out of the ten bets have been restricted to a takeout of 20p, I shall demand individual settlement if any win, which should cost them a 50p transaction fee each time.
E-mailed them, and got told I should have received an e-mail stating the account was closed. (Checked my Spam folder - I hadn't.) But they have kindly reinstated and allowed me to access my open bets.
Very kind of them.
As nine out of the ten bets have been restricted to a takeout of 20p, I shall demand individual settlement if any win, which should cost them a 50p transaction fee each time.
Shut down today by SJ.
'All Stan James accounts are reviewed on a regular basis by our Trading team, and due to betting patterns on this account the decision has been made to close it.'
my lifetime bets on account totalled 20 since Dec 2009, (all on 'specials' markets) total staked £425 total returns £465.
Useless feckers. Was restricted to pennies anyway since having the audacity to put 30-odd quid on Josie in Big Brother last year
'All Stan James accounts are reviewed on a regular basis by our Trading team, and due to betting patterns on this account the decision has been made to close it.'
my lifetime bets on account totalled 20 since Dec 2009, (all on 'specials' markets) total staked £425 total returns £465.
Useless feckers. Was restricted to pennies anyway since having the audacity to put 30-odd quid on Josie in Big Brother last year
Trading team my arse, I reckon all bets are referred to the cleaning lady for acceptance.
The ad for a Koral trading manager in the RP today said that the brief was to grow the business and attract bets. Meanwhile all the online firms bar 3.65 are closing people down and taking less and less money.
I wonder how the people in the industry who follow horses and sports as fans and have an interest in betting feel about the evolution of the books. Their job now is to get people onto the arcades, the FOBTS in the shops or some equivalent online. It's less interesting or noble a calling than selling baked beans.
What the firms need to do is to offer best conventional bm price as dammit, have best price guaranteed and offer exceptional ease of use and service. In effect, the client wd be paying for not having the time or nous to get the price on bf.
The era of having heavily overround books and expecting chance business to come to you is at an end.
I wonder how the people in the industry who follow horses and sports as fans and have an interest in betting feel about the evolution of the books. Their job now is to get people onto the arcades, the FOBTS in the shops or some equivalent online. It's less interesting or noble a calling than selling baked beans.
What the firms need to do is to offer best conventional bm price as dammit, have best price guaranteed and offer exceptional ease of use and service. In effect, the client wd be paying for not having the time or nous to get the price on bf.
The era of having heavily overround books and expecting chance business to come to you is at an end.
Yes, for winning punters they are appalling. I am limited to 10 pounds takeout and maliciously only ever bet 50-1 plus shots w/ them for the transaction costs.
I meant that from the point of these businesses' point of view, they are failing: not only are they failing clients who wd prob. beat them, but in their own terms they are not growing betting volumes or profits or attracting custom. I was saying what I wd do if I were a conventional bookmaker.
I meant that from the point of these businesses' point of view, they are failing: not only are they failing clients who wd prob. beat them, but in their own terms they are not growing betting volumes or profits or attracting custom. I was saying what I wd do if I were a conventional bookmaker.
What is the situation with the likes of Sportingbet, Centrebet etc. They're all online and available to all, aren't they?
Do they restrict winners ?
Not my cuppa tea, but I'm curious.
Do they restrict winners ?
Not my cuppa tea, but I'm curious.
Sportingbet are appalling restricters--down to 50 pounds, then 10 per race. This is when taking a price as I wasn't going for sp+ when I bet w/ them.
Firms like sportingbet and bet365 that sit just under the bf price and manage their liabilities in a pretty mechanical way through needing to have an 'out' through bf have to be ruthless in discriminating between winning and losing punters.
Of course what distinguishes these is largely discipline, so in effect these firms are relying on their punters to take losing badly and 'blow up'.
Of course what distinguishes these is largely discipline, so in effect these firms are relying on their punters to take losing badly and 'blow up'.
Sportingbet, pmsl, biggest bunch of jokers I've ever seen, they make 3 pounds 65 and the two quid merchants skibet look positively courageous in comparison
And Paddy Power ? The same I presume.?
Is there anyone in fact not restricting, apart from some Caribbean outfits ?
Is there anyone in fact not restricting, apart from some Caribbean outfits ?
No, generally speaking, British bookmakers are a bunch of gutless cowards.
That is, if there's a price In my experience Power close you down rather than restrict you. For a long time they let me have buttons about any horse that was Pricewise or where they were top price, but in some instances where they cd offload the bet (say another firm would be going bigger in the morning) they would lay the beast up to what I imagined was a standard liability. Maybe it was just that my account hadn't been flagged up.
Sorry, post shd begin 'in my experience'... Thought I'd deleted the first bit
Rich gutless cowards ?
I just read a book on Alan Tripp a top ex SP bookie in Australia who has recently sold two online bookie operations in succession to Sportingbet and PP ? Has made hundreeds of millions of moolah, after a very long and arduous grind through all the bottom feeder areas of gambling.
A great read.
Published by Harper Collins, called " Beating the Odds", author Nichola Garvey.
I just read a book on Alan Tripp a top ex SP bookie in Australia who has recently sold two online bookie operations in succession to Sportingbet and PP ? Has made hundreeds of millions of moolah, after a very long and arduous grind through all the bottom feeder areas of gambling.
A great read.
Published by Harper Collins, called " Beating the Odds", author Nichola Garvey.
Well, yes, clearly they are happy to lay 6/4 shots to mugs when they are 2/1+ on here, who wouldn't?
I think it's just symptomatic of the recession and the challenging times faced by the bookmaking industry. Not only are punters spending less but more worryingly for the future, govts are trying to muscle in.
Probably the only bookies that will benefit are illegal ones.
Probably the only bookies that will benefit are illegal ones.
Maybe Clydebank, but once they get ingrained in the lazy habit of just closing down winning accounts rather than finding ways to lay off such bets and manage their books professionally, then maybe there will be no going back, that is if they are allowed to get away with it ad nauseam.
Victor Chandler the Indiana Jones of the gambling world.
Where did that all go to ?
Where did that all go to ?
"once they get ingrained in the lazy habit of just closing down winning accounts rather than finding ways to lay off such bets and manage their books professionally, then maybe there will be no going back, that is if they are allowed to get away with it ad nauseam"
Erm...who do you think is going to stop them? Can't really see legislators in Gibraltar queueing up to force them into taking bets from customers they don't want, can you
Erm...who do you think is going to stop them? Can't really see legislators in Gibraltar queueing up to force them into taking bets from customers they don't want, can you
Nope. I agree.
Only market forces ( that is customers leaving in droves) will realistically force a change.
And I don't see that occurring unfortunately.
Long live BF.
That's all I say.
Only market forces ( that is customers leaving in droves) will realistically force a change.
And I don't see that occurring unfortunately.
Long live BF.
That's all I say.
I got an account closed with them today. Placed just one bet, £15 e/w 18-1 on Rub Of The Relic in the 5:20 today. Tried to place a second bet, account shut! And the first bet hasn't even won or lost yet...
i'd take a very short price that wasn't ur first account mr magoo??
yep victor matures have shut my account, an email would be nice telling me whats going to happen to my 4 pending bets and my cash
VC honoured my ante post bets and refunded my balance, when they closed me.
yes they will honour any long term bets if your account has been closed. Happened to me this week to. They must be having a big purge at the mo.
I also recon they have come unstuck with paying racing UK £20 subs and this 'beat victor' thing. If you do both they end up giving you around £350 PA free bets (assuming you win a fiver every couple of weeks on beat victor) and that is a nice top up to your account even if you lose!
There could never be an undercover TV investigation. They would claim that they were behaving responsibly by preventing people from gambling too much, and the non-betting public would buy that line.
All bookies except Pinnacle restrict you, it is just a matter of time if you win. They have different patterns of behaviour and of the big 3 Coral are the most cowardly followed by hills. Lads, in my experience, have a longer term view, but if you win a couple of 'first scorer' bets or similar you are down to 10%. Others who were good in the past but have joined the others are Blue Sq. PP (although they will sometimes take a bet on the phone). Fdone (ditto for the phone)
All bookies except Pinnacle restrict you, it is just a matter of time if you win. They have different patterns of behaviour and of the big 3 Coral are the most cowardly followed by hills. Lads, in my experience, have a longer term view, but if you win a couple of 'first scorer' bets or similar you are down to 10%. Others who were good in the past but have joined the others are Blue Sq. PP (although they will sometimes take a bet on the phone). Fdone (ditto for the phone)
Very often, I am restricted on the internet to BELOW what the minimum bet is.
Tried to log in today and couldnt, so used the chat facility and was told that their "Senior Traders" had closed my account, by pure luck had turned a winning £5 from Beat Victor into £451 with 3 winning £5 accas, been told the balance will be paid in 3 days
If they are restricting you after winning on first scorer bets then things are dire indeed. These must be amongst the biggest mug bets of the lot and surely then want custom on that kind of market?
account closed - had 7 bets in total up 400 quid had a couple of really smelly ones tough what can you do
just noticed extrabet.com ''ceasing our client -facing sports betting offerings''
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I think it's just symptomatic of the recession and the challenging times faced by the bookmaking industry. Not only are punters spending less but more worryingly for the future, govts are trying to muscle in.
Probably the only bookies that will benefit are illegal ones.
Nothing wrong with an illegal bookie, as long as he cash to pay out imo.
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I think it's just symptomatic of the recession and the challenging times faced by the bookmaking industry. Not only are punters spending less but more worryingly for the future, govts are trying to muscle in.
Probably the only bookies that will benefit are illegal ones.
Nothing wrong with an illegal bookie, as long as he cash to pay out imo.
Guys, you cant be serious with this thread, I might expect it from football chat but not General Betting. Of course they close winners, there is nothing at all wrong with that, its the way it has always been and they wouldnt operate otherwise. If there was suddenly a requirement that they had to accept bets from everyone, what do you think would happen to margins?
Now I agree that some of them close accounts for the wrong things, but thats just bad traders that dont understand punters properly. Unfortunately the standard of traders has plummeted, there is so much automation these days and most firms take their queue from the exchanges.
But if you are a winner, especially if you are shrewd and only pick the best prices from one of your many accounts, well then you will get closed down. Its happened to all of us, but if you think thats wrong then you dont understand the game at all
Now I agree that some of them close accounts for the wrong things, but thats just bad traders that dont understand punters properly. Unfortunately the standard of traders has plummeted, there is so much automation these days and most firms take their queue from the exchanges.
But if you are a winner, especially if you are shrewd and only pick the best prices from one of your many accounts, well then you will get closed down. Its happened to all of us, but if you think thats wrong then you dont understand the game at all
Sorry prestbury.
That's not the way the game was played in the past.
The new bookies are not risk takers as they were in the past.
Now that's fine if that's the way they want it to be now.
But just don't let them call themselves bookmakers that's all.
And make sure that all and sundry are made fully aware at the outset that you will not be permitted to win long term.
That's not the way the game was played in the past.
The new bookies are not risk takers as they were in the past.
Now that's fine if that's the way they want it to be now.
But just don't let them call themselves bookmakers that's all.
And make sure that all and sundry are made fully aware at the outset that you will not be permitted to win long term.
Frog, everyone should know that anyway, and the reason it wasn't like that in the past is exchanges, pure and simple. Any book that goes out of line with an opinion gets brought back in by bf. And dont say they should still stand out with their opinions, becasue they do, but anyone who is going to cherry pick arb prices isnt the customers they are looking for. We have it so good as punters at the minute, and I know this game from both sides, believe me, to moan about being closed, provided they are closing accounts with good reason (I know a few have bad traders like i said and panic too quickly) shows a lack of understanding of the betting industry. Not meant to be patronising with that statement by the way.
And believe me, for as long as the game has existed, anyone winning too much was stopped, I'm not sure why you think that didnt happen.
And believe me, for as long as the game has existed, anyone winning too much was stopped, I'm not sure why you think that didnt happen.
skibet are the biggest joke ever. Had an account for several years, then got the "internet only" ie sod all taken as the result of two, yes two bets. One of them was £40 on a football team which were clearly overpriced at 4/1 (I think they went off 9/4) The other was 200 on a politics bet at evens which, although it won, was actually poor value as I mistakenly thought there was an arb with betfair and I actually had to back the other outcomes to "red out"! It was on the make up of this parliament (Con/LD coalition) which I was told went off at 1/10, I was like, well, yes obviously after the negotiations had taken place it would have been a pretty short price, its a bit like backing United for the title at 2/1 pre season and being restricted because they were 1/50 on the final couple of weeks before they shut their book! The complete and utter cretin who I spoke to could not seem to grasp this point, all he kept saying was "Sir, you backed a 1/10 chance at evens"
If I really had inside info on the negotiations between the two parties, does he really think I would have just had an even 200 on?
I'd have literally got every spare penny I could get my hands on and told all my friends to do likewise!
Just a complete bunch of gutless, clueless cowards. Just like bet 3 pounds 65 pence and all the others.
If I really had inside info on the negotiations between the two parties, does he really think I would have just had an even 200 on?
I'd have literally got every spare penny I could get my hands on and told all my friends to do likewise!Just a complete bunch of gutless, clueless cowards. Just like bet 3 pounds 65 pence and all the others.
Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, another firm was also offering evens when they were, so it was hardly like their price was out of line!
turtle, to be honest, while it is ridiculous to close an account after two bets, you were betting because you thought it was an arb. Can you explain more about that? Had you the price wrong/missed price/different rules? Also you backed a football team who went from 5.0 to 3.25. What was the team please?
It does sound like you are not the type of customer they want, as I said, two bets is too quick to make a proper judgement, but I would definitely have marked you up if I was them. How are they gutless when you are looking for arbs? Whether by accident or not, they made the right decision from what you have said.
Why do people have such a problem with this? Its not rocket science
It does sound like you are not the type of customer they want, as I said, two bets is too quick to make a proper judgement, but I would definitely have marked you up if I was them. How are they gutless when you are looking for arbs? Whether by accident or not, they made the right decision from what you have said.
Why do people have such a problem with this? Its not rocket science
Prestbury, you`re wasting your time, all bookies are evil, and just dont want you to win, didnt you know that ?
Yes, I didn't read the rules on the politics bet. My own fault. Like I said, another firm was offerring exactly the same price on the same outcome, so really can't see how they can think I was an arber just on that bearing in mind that was the only other firm to offer a market!
I can't remember the football team, it was a pre season friendly just over 1 year ago. Someone on the forum made a decent argument why it was overpriced, I looked into it as well and agreed (I think I have a reasonable knowledge of the sport). Obviously other people did too, hence the change in price.
From memory there was a market here but at the time of the bet there was literally tumbleweed in it with ridiculously wide spreads so backing here was a no go.
Of course come kick off it was possible to lay off at a shorter price then I backed them at (I didn't even bother) - so does that make me an arber?!?
I'm not one of these people who spends ages looking for arbs just to make a tiny profit (fair play to anyone who does so and makes enough for it to be worthwhile though).
On the other hand, if I see what I think is a value bet or someone else flags it up, of course I'm going to back it, wouldn't anyone with a braincell?
With that football team, should I have said "yes, I agree that team is overpriced and worthy of a bet, however other people might think the same and the price might go in, and my account could get closed, so I won't bother actually"
Like I said, a bunch of gutless, clueless cowards. A mickey mouse tinpot outfit who only want to deal with mugs.
I can't remember the football team, it was a pre season friendly just over 1 year ago. Someone on the forum made a decent argument why it was overpriced, I looked into it as well and agreed (I think I have a reasonable knowledge of the sport). Obviously other people did too, hence the change in price.
From memory there was a market here but at the time of the bet there was literally tumbleweed in it with ridiculously wide spreads so backing here was a no go.
Of course come kick off it was possible to lay off at a shorter price then I backed them at (I didn't even bother) - so does that make me an arber?!?
I'm not one of these people who spends ages looking for arbs just to make a tiny profit (fair play to anyone who does so and makes enough for it to be worthwhile though).
On the other hand, if I see what I think is a value bet or someone else flags it up, of course I'm going to back it, wouldn't anyone with a braincell?
With that football team, should I have said "yes, I agree that team is overpriced and worthy of a bet, however other people might think the same and the price might go in, and my account could get closed, so I won't bother actually"
Like I said, a bunch of gutless, clueless cowards. A mickey mouse tinpot outfit who only want to deal with mugs.
Turtle, if you were the bookie how would you deal with your winning accounts?
You didn't but neither did I. I am asking a general question about how you would deal with winning accounts if you were a bookie.
Okay.
I would take a long term view over a reasonable number of bets, if it was clear beyond doubt after this period of time that the person had an edge on me, I would use his bets to adjust my prices accordingly, as many firms do. If his edge was sufficiently big enough, I may even back some of his selections with another firm if that was possible.
I would take a long term view over a reasonable number of bets, if it was clear beyond doubt after this period of time that the person had an edge on me, I would use his bets to adjust my prices accordingly, as many firms do. If his edge was sufficiently big enough, I may even back some of his selections with another firm if that was possible.
Oh come on turtle that would be bookmaking. Why on earth would they try something like that.
Far too difficult to organise. And far too honest also.
Far too difficult to organise. And far too honest also.
You mean like Ladbrokes backing something on course to shorten it ?
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Okay.
I would take a long term view over a reasonable number of bets, if it was clear beyond doubt after this period of time that the person had an edge on me, I would use his bets to adjust my prices accordingly, as many firms do. If his edge was sufficiently big enough, I may even back some of his selections with another firm if that was possible.
Most winning punters don't win a big enough percentage to make them worth keeping - Fact.
Replies: 10747 25 Jun 11 11:55
Okay.
I would take a long term view over a reasonable number of bets, if it was clear beyond doubt after this period of time that the person had an edge on me, I would use his bets to adjust my prices accordingly, as many firms do. If his edge was sufficiently big enough, I may even back some of his selections with another firm if that was possible.
Most winning punters don't win a big enough percentage to make them worth keeping - Fact.
To my knowledge Betfair have never marketed their business along the lines of "want the chance to win loing term? want the chance to bet at best prices without having your account closed? want the chance to ask for better odds still?..well we don't close winning accounts unlike bookmakers.
More reason to market along those lines than ever before
More reason to market along those lines than ever before
Or restrict accounts either.
Absolutely agree CB.
Betfair have such a good story to tell. I just wish they'd start telling it.
Absolutely agree CB.
Betfair have such a good story to tell. I just wish they'd start telling it.
Yes, I agree too. The "we won't close your account" is a great angle for BF especially these days of stories on here with bookies closing people down on a daily basis.
won't close winning accounts but will take 20% of your winnings
Yes, they don't need to mention the commission or PC except in the fineprint.
It's not like Ray Winstone warns you that 365 will close your account if you are moderately successful or even if they just don't like your kind of business is it?
It's not like Ray Winstone warns you that 365 will close your account if you are moderately successful or even if they just don't like your kind of business is it?
Think Victor had a purge on people who play Beat Victor but don't deposit/bet with their own cash. My dad and mate banned within a week.. and they aren't arbers
BF has the ONLY good story worth telling to punters.
They should be shouting it from the rooftops.
In fact, I wonder why they are not.?
Some sort of pressure being applied to them ?
They should be shouting it from the rooftops.
In fact, I wonder why they are not.?
Some sort of pressure being applied to them ?
just had my VC account closed this morning - no email, i just couldnt login - its not a great way of closing an account
My bet on Charlie Adam joining Lpool must have been the final straw after 5 years of having an account
I'm sure I'll open another in time for the footy season as they did offer good prices on footy acca's
My bet on Charlie Adam joining Lpool must have been the final straw after 5 years of having an account
I'm sure I'll open another in time for the footy season as they did offer good prices on footy acca's
When any firm say your going to be taxed at up to 60 percent,they are closing your account,who the hell is going to place a bet with 60 percent tax
On net winnings btw luloo.
That still leaves you ahead if you're good enough not to have extreme up anf down weeks.
That still leaves you ahead if you're good enough not to have extreme up anf down weeks.
F*ck bet c*nting 365
F*ck sky bet
F*ck victor c*nting chandler
365 limited my bets for winning on 2 greyhound races back to back. (must be impossible to do something like that!) Having lost over 5k to them since I opened my account.
Skybet closed my account for backing over 17 corners in a football match (why offer a selection if you'll close a customers account for betting on it?)
and victor icing on the cake chandler closed my account for betting on a ufc fight after the fight had finished. clearly someone should be getting sacked for being a plonker and not knowing what time an event was going to start (it was even live on espn).
F*ck sky bet
F*ck victor c*nting chandler
365 limited my bets for winning on 2 greyhound races back to back. (must be impossible to do something like that!) Having lost over 5k to them since I opened my account.
Skybet closed my account for backing over 17 corners in a football match (why offer a selection if you'll close a customers account for betting on it?)
and victor icing on the cake chandler closed my account for betting on a ufc fight after the fight had finished. clearly someone should be getting sacked for being a plonker and not knowing what time an event was going to start (it was even live on espn).
"On net winnings btw luloo. That still leaves you ahead if you're good enough not to have extreme up anf down weeks"
It would still leave you ahead if they charged 70, 80, 90, or even 99% on "net winnings".
The question is, why on earth would you bother to take the risk for such a small reward when betsocalledfair swipes the majority of your profit for no risk?
It would still leave you ahead if they charged 70, 80, 90, or even 99% on "net winnings".
The question is, why on earth would you bother to take the risk for such a small reward when betsocalledfair swipes the majority of your profit for no risk?
just joined the hall of fame. This game is such a joke.the sport is supposed to be funded by gambling and you can't get a bet on.
Dear Mr ______
We are contacting you today to advise that a business decision has been taken by our Senior Traders and I must inform you that betting Account Number 286036 has now been closed and no further business may be executed on your behalf.
The balance of this Account stands at zero with no outstanding bets.
As explained in our Terms and Conditions, a Traders decision is final and will not be over turned.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your past custom.
Kind Regards
Dear Mr ______
We are contacting you today to advise that a business decision has been taken by our Senior Traders and I must inform you that betting Account Number 286036 has now been closed and no further business may be executed on your behalf.
The balance of this Account stands at zero with no outstanding bets.
As explained in our Terms and Conditions, a Traders decision is final and will not be over turned.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your past custom.
Kind Regards
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