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Yep.
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yep mine closed and friend has his restricted last saturday
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They are generally the first firm to close down winners. They are extremely fair in their rulings but hugely selective w/ their customers--if you win, you're shown the door in no uncertain terms.
Imv, better than the restrictions, and a real boon if you know someone w/ a long-term losing VC accnt. |
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fll, I bet yours was on the back of Eurovision? They seemed to love laying decent bets this year on the ESC, until they realised how much they had lost!!
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And yet people continue to flock to the HS bookies.
Why I ask ? Why is there no media outrage over this blatant one sided business practice.? Could it happen in any other sort of business.? Why aren't the regulators intervening to stop this practice of shutting down winners, and encouraging losers ? |
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yes, had mine closed last week, last winning bet was picking 4 draws (£2 trebles & 4 timer) on the last game of the season. You'd think they'd be happy to keep laying such bets.
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fll, I bet yours was on the back of Eurovision?
Closed on the back of Big Brother awhile back. Took 4/1 on someone for elim who was 2/5 within 30 mins. Had had plenty of losers with them tho and I think the account overall was in the red. |
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I was closed down a few years ago, occupational hazard, but then somebody told me, that the same had happened to them and they just reopened without a problem. My card has changed in the time elapsed, so I thought i`d give it a go, and now I`m using them again. Most odd.
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I did the same Pounf - changed username and moved off a card onto moneybookers. This was only after a month - they will lay me sports no problem but very wary and restricted on the nags, whereas before I had no problem with amounts, was just shut down out of the blue.
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my and 7 of my friends accounts have all been closed
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The reason people are still flocking to the high street is so they can get on. We'd be even worse off in a world without shops.
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yes i did last week after 10 years of losing i won £500 over 3 months! I am writing to the chairman.
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I understand that they are in a bit of a mess. A number of senior traders/management have left the company due to average results and as such it is apparently a rudderless ship. Accounts that should not be closed have been closed including a mate of mine in the city who is a shocking punter. But if you show a profit after your first 5 bets or so you are shown the door...
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I understand that they are in a bit of a mess. A number of senior traders/management have left the company due to average results and as such it is apparently a rudderless ship. Accounts that should not be closed have been closed including a mate of mine in the city who is a shocking punter. But if you show a profit after your first 5 bets or so you are shown the door...
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Over the past few years I've been Closed down by. VC, billy hills,PP, and heavily restricted by B£3.65, Skyhigh, Toat, Spoilsports,
Baldfred, spattingbet, Bsq, SJ and Badblokes. I really think one of those secret camera documentaries should go under cover to let the public know what's going on. I think most people would be shocked. OP, you may take some comfort in the fact that you are not alone. |
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So carn, conclusion from this. Thank God for BF ?
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Same here carn, but TBF I can't blame them.
They're not in the business of laying bets to longterm winners. The PC fooks me off more as I've said in many a thread. Unlike the bookies, I'm not winning their money. |
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five leaves. I see your point,If I was a bookie I wouldn't be very happy with punters winning off me regularly. However, having bookie accounts can be useful, from a punters perspective. The occasions when you want to get on early on at 10/1 and betfair is showing 10.5 for just £10 or so.
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yep, I agree the likes of B365 and Sid James are just a joke restricting people to a few pence on a 2/1 shot.
Either close the account or atleast let someone have a tenner or a score. A few will still lay me to lose a humdred or two depnding on the market. At that level I reckon it pays them to leave winning accounts open as an early warning system. |
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Agreed, SJ just restricted a friend of mine to winnings of £20. The most he ever staked was £10 win or £5 E/W. Pathetic.
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It's also crazy to restrict across different markets.
I bet on specials and can see why they restrict those bets, but a few will carry that restriction to all bets. I had a few fiver ew yankees at Cheltenham and had no problem with most firms. B365 offered me a half penny ew yankee ![]() It took me back to the 80's. |
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Stan James are the worst at the monent. I know of 15 accounts that have been resricted to interenet only (tiny stakes allowed) in the last 6 weeks. They only accomadate mugs.
Most of the rest are not far behind. I reckon Lads are the fairest, although 50 is the most i can get on with them. |
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Ladcrooks one of the worst for me.
I'd be lucky to get an even tenner with them on specials. |
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SJ closed my account last week, was a losing account since August 2010 so made no sense.
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Yup, SJ must be on a spree. Closed me up. Winning account though.
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SJ closed my account this morning. Balance is zero, unable to check what ante-post bets are outstanding. Had over a grand in the account and no information about where it is. No e-mail or anything informing me of the closure.
Had the account for nearly two decades. ![]() |
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That's odd screaming, when they 'closed' me, I still have my account, I just can't bet with it. 'Sorry you cannot place a bet'
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Same here, W W. I can log in and get a zero balance and the "Sorry ..." message when I try to bet. But the Statement page just said I had no bets, including unsettled ones.
E-mailed them, and got told I should have received an e-mail stating the account was closed. (Checked my Spam folder - I hadn't.) But they have kindly reinstated and allowed me to access my open bets. Very kind of them. As nine out of the ten bets have been restricted to a takeout of 20p, I shall demand individual settlement if any win, which should cost them a 50p transaction fee each time. |
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Shut down today by SJ.
'All Stan James accounts are reviewed on a regular basis by our Trading team, and due to betting patterns on this account the decision has been made to close it.' my lifetime bets on account totalled 20 since Dec 2009, (all on 'specials' markets) total staked £425 total returns £465. Useless feckers. Was restricted to pennies anyway since having the audacity to put 30-odd quid on Josie in Big Brother last year |
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Trading team my arse, I reckon all bets are referred to the cleaning lady for acceptance.
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The ad for a Koral trading manager in the RP today said that the brief was to grow the business and attract bets. Meanwhile all the online firms bar 3.65 are closing people down and taking less and less money.
I wonder how the people in the industry who follow horses and sports as fans and have an interest in betting feel about the evolution of the books. Their job now is to get people onto the arcades, the FOBTS in the shops or some equivalent online. It's less interesting or noble a calling than selling baked beans. What the firms need to do is to offer best conventional bm price as dammit, have best price guaranteed and offer exceptional ease of use and service. In effect, the client wd be paying for not having the time or nous to get the price on bf. The era of having heavily overround books and expecting chance business to come to you is at an end. |
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365 are one of the worse imo
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Yes, for winning punters they are appalling. I am limited to 10 pounds takeout and maliciously only ever bet 50-1 plus shots w/ them for the transaction costs.
I meant that from the point of these businesses' point of view, they are failing: not only are they failing clients who wd prob. beat them, but in their own terms they are not growing betting volumes or profits or attracting custom. I was saying what I wd do if I were a conventional bookmaker. |
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What is the situation with the likes of Sportingbet, Centrebet etc. They're all online and available to all, aren't they?
Do they restrict winners ? Not my cuppa tea, but I'm curious. |
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Sportingbet are appalling restricters--down to 50 pounds, then 10 per race. This is when taking a price as I wasn't going for sp+ when I bet w/ them.
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Firms like sportingbet and bet365 that sit just under the bf price and manage their liabilities in a pretty mechanical way through needing to have an 'out' through bf have to be ruthless in discriminating between winning and losing punters.
Of course what distinguishes these is largely discipline, so in effect these firms are relying on their punters to take losing badly and 'blow up'. |
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Sportingbet, pmsl, biggest bunch of jokers I've ever seen, they make 3 pounds 65 and the two quid merchants skibet look positively courageous in comparison
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And Paddy Power ? The same I presume.?
Is there anyone in fact not restricting, apart from some Caribbean outfits ? |
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No, generally speaking, British bookmakers are a bunch of gutless cowards.
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