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Wilson1975
25 May 11 15:59
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hi there , is there any software out there that i could use that could place bets with fill and kill with with less than the 1 second function?,i.e 0.1or 0.2 of a second or faster?

many thanks for any advise

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BARNSTER
When: 27 May 11 21:31
gruss does tenths of a second
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SHAPESHIFTER
When: 28 May 11 13:40
Curious....you wrote Fill AND kill.

Did you mean "Fill or kill" ? 

If not, what is the definition of F "AND" K.
By:
longbridge
When: 02 Jun 11 11:25
Don't see how any software could do FOK on the Exchange; it's not available as an order type and can't be synthesised.

IOC would be easy enough to do, but IOC allows partial fills.
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Fat Nanny
When: 02 Jun 11 12:13
I know Bet Angel does this. It has fill or kill functions and it can instantly offset or partial offset if using batching. I often use 0.2, 0.5 and so on as the kill delay.
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longbridge
When: 02 Jun 11 12:55
Shold love to know how that works - I can't see how you can avoid getting partially matched.
By:
SHAPESHIFTER
When: 02 Jun 11 14:46
Could someone give an example on Betangel do this?  It can't be a complete FOK.
By:
Chilly the Dog
When: 03 Jun 11 11:38
Since the exchange doesnt offer an explicit FOK order type, you have to "best effort" it by placing the bet, and sending a cancel a short amount of time later. There's no guarantee you wont get partially matched, though.
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longbridge
When: 03 Jun 11 12:04
@chilly - exactly so.  The 'place bet -> cancel as soon as a bet ID comes back' gives IOC neatly enough, but only approaches FOK if you don't mind partial matches - which rather misses the point of FOK :)
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Chilly the Dog
When: 03 Jun 11 13:38
If you were trying to be extremely clever, you might try and guess the betID (if you are a V high frequency trader, this might not be as unrealistic as it sounds). Since you cant cancel bets on another account, you spray in a load of cancels for the guessed betId immediately after you send in the place bet request - cuts down the wait a bit and makes it less likely to get a partial.
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SHAPESHIFTER
When: 03 Jun 11 13:46
So the "description" of FOK is not correct.
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