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rjb
30 Mar 11 21:47
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Hi all, ive seen this post a while ago but im wondering if anyone can tell me how many lays at odds of 50 would it take to reach £100,000 if you start with a bank of £100 and just add your profit from each lay to the total on the next lay?
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Report undern April 14, 2011 11:08 AM BST
Hey Rumburak33 - why choose to do your betting posts on rjb thread especially when it is deliberately betting opposite what he has put up.

Start your own thread ....

rjb is genuinely trying to do this so leave him alone to get on with it.
Report Rumburak33 April 14, 2011 11:18 AM BST
ok sorry i´ll not post my bets here. gl rjb
Report rjb April 14, 2011 11:20 AM BST
Thanks Guys. Lets see what today brings Happy
Report rjb April 14, 2011 2:24 PM BST
Home Utd Vs Etolie FC - Lay 3-2 @ 38
Liability £109.52
Potential Profit £2.81 (after comms)

WINNER - Bank £112.33Grin
Report Rumburak33 April 14, 2011 2:25 PM BST
well done rjb. I lost 2,81Cry
Report rjb April 14, 2011 2:32 PM BST
Donny Elvira 2:35 start time @50
Liability £112.33
Potential Profit £2.18 ( after comms )
Report Rumburak33 April 14, 2011 2:38 PM BST
well done. another one pls
Report rjb April 14, 2011 2:41 PM BST
Donny Elvira 2:35 start time @50
Liability £112.33
Potential Profit £2.18 ( after comms )

Winner - Balance £114.51 Grin
Report Rumburak33 April 14, 2011 2:42 PM BST
this is the 6th bet, true?
Report rjb April 14, 2011 3:00 PM BST
Dorabelle 15:20 Chelt @ 48
Liability £114.21
Potential Profit £2.31 (after comms)
Report Rumburak33 April 14, 2011 3:26 PM BST
another one rjb. how many bets today?
Report rjb April 14, 2011 3:28 PM BST
Dorabelle 15:20 Chelt @ 48
Liability £114.21
Potential Profit £2.31 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £116.82 Grin
Report rjb April 14, 2011 3:29 PM BST
just doing as many as i feel like doing Rumburak33 Cool
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner April 14, 2011 3:36 PM BST
what are you looking him to fail rumburak you little cretin? begging for his bets....bad times
Report Rumburak33 April 14, 2011 3:38 PM BST
No, just i´m new and I like to see him winning. I want to learn from him and from all the people who leave more time betting.
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner April 14, 2011 3:46 PM BST
Strange way of showing you want him to win. Go over to the football forum and do the opposite of the free money threads
Report rjb April 14, 2011 4:30 PM BST
Busker Royal 16:30 Chelt @ 46
Liability £116.55
Potential Profit £2.59 (after comms)
Report rjb April 14, 2011 4:39 PM BST
Busker Royal 16:30 Chelt @ 46
Liability £116.55
Potential Profit £2.59 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £119.41 Grin
Report Everseer April 14, 2011 5:06 PM BST
ooooh first post :D fingers crossed for ya rjb, not sure i'd have the bottle when the stakes get high. i took £10 upto £140 laying draws (and then lost it all chasing stupid bets when i was bored) discipline and luck fella :thumbs up:
Report bobby2424 April 14, 2011 5:16 PM BST
rjb,I don't like being the bearer of bad news. But it's gonna take you more than 368 bets. As Betfair will take money out of your account via the Premium charge.Sad But I hope you dodge those bullets and make it to £100,000
Report rjb April 14, 2011 8:12 PM BST
Thanks for the posts guys and seeing how im getting on. Like i said its a hellllllllll of a long way to go yet but just need to stick to my guns, keep disciplined and keep picking as close to 50's as i can.  You never know, i might get there. Anything can happen Laugh
Report rjb April 15, 2011 11:26 AM BST
Another day..another dollar. Lets hope for more of the same today as yesterday. Once again i'll post my selections before the event and see how i get on Happy
Report rjb April 15, 2011 11:35 AM BST
Huangdong Utd Vs Singapore Armed Forces - Lay 2-3 @ 36
Liability £119.35
Potential Profit £3.24 (after comms)
Report Rumburak33 April 15, 2011 11:36 AM BST
Gl rjb. U will go first to Hougang - SA Forced. I´m sure. Grin
Report rjb April 15, 2011 2:30 PM BST
Huangdong Utd Vs Singapore Armed Forces - Lay 2-3 @ 36
Liability £119.35
Potential Profit £3.24 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £122.65 Laugh
Report rjb April 15, 2011 3:27 PM BST
Mighty Maggini 15:25 Ayr @ 44
Liability £122.55
Potential Profit £2.71 (after comms)


just got matched
Report rjb April 15, 2011 3:33 PM BST
Mighty Massini 15:25 Ayr @ 44
Liability £122.55
Potential Profit £2.71 (after comms)


WINNER - Balance £125.36 Grin
Report undern April 15, 2011 3:33 PM BST
Be careful that went down to 1.83 inrunning !
Report rjb April 15, 2011 3:49 PM BST
I did get a bit of nerves on that one lol [:p]
Report Glengarry Glen Ross April 16, 2011 8:41 AM BST
Entertaining stuff

gl today
Report rjb April 16, 2011 7:23 PM BST
Just the one for today

Real Madrid Vs Barcelona - Lay 3-2 @ 30
Liability £125.28
Potential Profit £4.11 (after comms)
Report pico April 17, 2011 3:02 AM BST
this is like roulette, gl all the same
Report rjb April 17, 2011 8:36 AM BST
Real Madrid Vs Barcelona - Lay 3-2 @ 30
Liability £125.28
Potential Profit £4.11 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £129.47 Laugh
Report Rumburak33 April 17, 2011 11:12 AM BST
No lay to 3-2 in Tampines Rovers - young lions today. U want to do it?
Report rjb April 18, 2011 1:14 PM BST
Orpen Bid 14:10 Towc @ 36
Liability £129.15
Potential Profit £3.51 (after comms)
Report rjb April 18, 2011 2:37 PM BST
Orpen Bid 14:10 Towc @ 36
Liability £129.15
Potential Profit £3.51 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £132.98 Grin
Report undern April 18, 2011 3:07 PM BST
Laustra Bad  1.89  £0.24  £0.45 £0.21 
Ref: 14434540516 Bet matched: 15:03 18-Apr-11
 
1.89  £1.92  £3.63 £1.71 
Ref: 14434540516 Bet matched: 15:03 18-Apr-11
 
1.89  £2.00  £3.78 £1.78 
Ref: 14434540516 Bet matched: 15:03 18-Apr-11
 
1.89  £2.00  £3.78 £1.78 
Ref: 14434540516 Bet matched: 15:03 18-Apr-11
 
1.89  £13.52  £25.55 £12.03 
Ref: 14434540516 Bet matched: 15:03 18-Apr-11
 
1.89  £20.32  £38.40 £18.08 
Ref: 14434540516 Bet matched: 15:03 18-Apr-11
 
1.98  £13.38  £26.49 £13.11 
Ref: 14434549039 Bet matched: 15:04 18-Apr-11
 
2  £11.62  £23.24 £11.62 
Ref: 14434549039 Bet matched: 15:04 18-Apr-11

just threw £60 away inrunning .... put up a lay on 'anyone fancy a lay thread' on forest Rhythm but as soon as I did it ... it went out in the odds. So couldn't get matched so watched the race thinking midnight opera might be able to burn Laustra bad off ... which it didn't ... very disappointed with that ...Cry
Report undern April 18, 2011 3:08 PM BST
Whoops so sorry rjb .... in my haste I posted on your thread by mistake. Didn't mean to and sorry for messing it up.
Report rjb April 18, 2011 3:13 PM BST
haha no problem undernLaugh
Report rjb April 19, 2011 11:08 AM BST
FC Seoul Vs Nagoya - Lay 3-2 @ 44
Liability £132.87
Potential Profit £2.94 (after comms)
Report stevies5_mufc April 19, 2011 11:28 AM BST
hey rjb, good luck with this, normally done challenges to make 10% per bet etc never had the guts to go as high as laying 50s haha but hope it works.
will be interesting getting matched when it comes to bigger money though, best of luck
Report rjb April 19, 2011 11:53 AM BST
Hey thanks for the post stevies5_mufc.  It will happen sooner or later that a lay of 50's will come in......my plan is to be walking away with the 100k by the time it does ;) I agree it might be tough getting matched on the football at higher prices but i'll cross that bridge WHEN i reach it ( crosses fingers ) [;)]
Report stevies5_mufc April 19, 2011 11:55 AM BST
haha lets hope you reach that bridge then. i've seen plenty of 50/1s come in, just be confident in the ones you lay and then you cant go wrong, at least you chose it yourself and it wasn't just done because of the odds.
Report rjb April 19, 2011 2:08 PM BST
FC Seoul Vs Nagoya - Lay 3-2 @ 44
Liability £132.87
Potential Profit £2.94 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £135.81 Grin
Report undern April 19, 2011 2:14 PM BST
Well done. Happy
Report rjb April 19, 2011 2:24 PM BST
Residency - Sthl - 14:30 @ 34
Liability £135.63
Potential Profit £3.91 (after comms)
Report rjb April 19, 2011 2:35 PM BST
Residency - Sthl - 14:30 @ 34
Liability £135.63
Potential Profit £3.91 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £139.72 Grin
Report rjb April 20, 2011 10:58 AM BST
Jeonbuk Motors Vs C-Osaka - Lay 3-2 @ 50
Liability £139.65
Potential Profit £2.71 (after comms)
Report rjb April 20, 2011 3:19 PM BST
Jeonbuk Motors Vs C-Osaka - Lay 3-2 @ 50
Liability £139.65
Potential Profit £2.71 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £142.43
Report rjb April 20, 2011 3:50 PM BST
Dinamo Moscow Vs Rostov - Lay 3-2 @ 50
Liability £142.10
Potential Profit £2.76 (after comms)
Report rjb April 20, 2011 4:03 PM BST
wow its amazing how you want to speed a challenge up and think "oh just stick the lot on a shorter price to get your bank up faster", but thats where you get stung big time and pick that winner isnt it!! Just need to stick to my guns and keep disciplined to see how far this challenge can really go.  Hope its making semi-interesting reading, im sure it will be a lot more tension if i get to put the much bigger stakes on the lay odds [;)]
Report undern April 20, 2011 4:58 PM BST
Yep we are all behind you ... stick with it
Report Rumburak33 April 20, 2011 5:03 PM BST
Gl rjb. how many lays u did?
Report rjb April 20, 2011 8:46 PM BST
Dinamo Moscow Vs Rostov - Lay 3-2 @ 50
Liability £142.10
Potential Profit £2.76 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £145.19 Laugh
Report Rumburak33 April 22, 2011 2:56 PM BST
What happened rjb? 2 days without lays?
Report undern April 23, 2011 3:06 PM BST
Hope you come back soon to continue with your challenge rjb Happy
Report rjb April 26, 2011 1:46 PM BST
Just enjoying the sunshine while it was around, making the most of it while it lasted [;)]

I'll look or any lays i like the look fo today and post them up here to continue the challenge Grin
Report rjb April 26, 2011 6:38 PM BST
Shalke V Man Utd - Lay 2-3 @ 50
Liability £145.04
Potential Profit £2.82 (after comms)
Report Plechy April 27, 2011 12:40 AM BST
rjb, interesting stuff and, of course, good luck.

Just wondered if, or how much, research is applied before choosing your lays, only some of the games you are selecting (eg, Home Utd Vs Etolie FC - Lay 3-2 @ 38) seem like matches that might have been part of the Roy of the Rovers script? Is there more to it than Russian roulette?

It would be good, too, if, when updating your winning balance, you also stated the final scores of these football matches (or the finishing position of your nag).
Report rjb April 27, 2011 2:25 PM BST
Shalke V Man Utd - Lay 2-3 @ 50
Liability £145.04
Potential Profit £2.82 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £148.01 Grin
Report rjb April 27, 2011 2:34 PM BST
Thanks for the post Plechy.

With regards to how i am selecting my lays i am looking at previous heads to heads, last X amount of games and scorelines etc. and with the nags once again looking at form, who they are up against etc etc.  Just your basic everyday info that probably most people look at before they place any lay/back bets. Nothing to clever, im just trying to keep it as simple possible so there is an element of luck involved too, as with any gamble.

With regards to the final score being posted here or the position of the nag, i basically place the lay then forget about it till i check my balance.  If my balance increases then i know it was a winner, not really concerned what the result was if that makes any sense. Grin
Report Plechy April 28, 2011 1:34 AM BST
rjb - understand completely that you would wish to move on as swiftly as poss after securing another victory.

I've no interest in horse or dog racing, but love football. Trouble is, I've never heard of many of these obscure teams you have successfully layed so far, and it would be interesting to know the final scores of these games (which you must know when you check the outcome of your bet) and see how comfortable or otherwise they were.

I tend to agree with you that lays are the way to go. For example, laying 0-0 in the Schalke-Man Utd game on Tuesday seemed too inviting to be true.
Report rjb April 28, 2011 7:24 AM BST
Hi Again Plechy, thanks for the response.  I tend not to look for 0-0 results at inviting odds, because in my view any team can have a bad day, or any goalkeeper can have a magical day, so the 0-0's are alot more likely than say a 3-2,2-3,3-3 etc which does indeed happen, but the odds of it are alot less likely in my opinion.  Therefore im trying to keep to as extreme of a result i can possibly pick to give me more of a chance of reaching my goal.  Im looking both pre kick and in-play for something which stands out to me on the football, but i have to try and keep to odds of 50's or as close as possible.  Hope this makes sense Grin
Report rjb April 29, 2011 1:03 PM BST
Karlsruhe V Fortuna Duseldorf - Lay 2-3 @ 48
Liability £147.58
Potential Profit £2.99 (after comms)
Report twister1080 April 29, 2011 1:09 PM BST
dude ur awsome , i wish u the best , my goal is to make at least 1k, but 100k is the coolest goal ever , u can do it , lets hope betfair doesnt try to rip you off.
Report dlarssonf April 29, 2011 4:09 PM BST
how would betfair rip him off?
Report TOTGA April 30, 2011 12:55 PM BST
On average, you will lose a bet (i.e. it'll win) around 1 time in 50 if we assume the markets here are fair (and they're fairer than most). So you need to be aware if you get past around £250, you've basically been lucky, and to get to £100k you will have to be remarkably lucky. I have a mild hangover so can't be bothered working out the probability, but alas, it's slim.

Good luck anyway.
Report rjb April 30, 2011 10:05 PM BST
Karlsruhe V Fortuna Duseldorf - Lay 2-3 @ 48
Liability £147.58
Potential Profit £2.99 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £151.00 Grin
Report rjb May 3, 2011 3:33 PM BST
Barcelona V Real Madrid - Lay 3-2 @ 32
Liability £150.97
Potential Profit £4.64 (after comms)
Report casemoney May 3, 2011 10:39 PM BST
Happyi wish u luck but if u get to 5k plus ur bottle will start going Happy
Report feral dog May 4, 2011 12:11 AM BST
Hi RJB. Good lukc with this, the discline is the hardest thing to overcome for sure.. I tried this purely with laying horses at big odds, started with same bank, think i tried to do it in 244 bets.. got up to about 1k, then lost it all because i lost discipline started laying things at much shorter odds.
Report McChicken_Sandwich May 4, 2011 12:33 AM BST
Does this factor in premium charge :| ?
Report McChicken_Sandwich May 4, 2011 12:33 AM BST
Plain
Report rjb May 4, 2011 7:23 AM BST
Barcelona V Real Madrid - Lay 3-2 @ 32
Liability £150.97
Potential Profit £4.64 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £155.64 Grin
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner May 4, 2011 9:40 AM BST
rjb how many lays now? Could you write them in on your posts from now on please? cheers
Report rjb May 4, 2011 9:42 PM BST
19 lays been made so far and i'm ahead of target due to most of the lays being under 50. Lets hope for more of the same Laugh
Report Philwin68 May 9, 2011 9:50 AM BST
where are uuuuuu rjb???????
Report rjb May 10, 2011 2:46 PM BST
Polonia Bylom v Cracoria Kracow - Lay 3-2 @ 40
Liability £155.61
Potential Profit £3.80 (after comms)
Report rjb May 11, 2011 10:54 AM BST
Polonia Bylom v Cracoria Kracow - Lay 3-2 @ 40
Liability £155.61
Potential Profit £3.80 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £159.44 Grin
Report Philwin68 May 11, 2011 11:15 AM BST
well done!
Report undern May 20, 2011 12:10 PM BST
Hi

Are you going to update your thread ?

cheers
undern
Report rjb May 20, 2011 4:18 PM BST
Hi Undern,

I'll get back on with the challenge asap, been mad busy with work and not had a chance to get on much.  Fingers crossed when i restart the lady named luck will still be on my side :)
Report undern May 29, 2011 1:34 AM BST
any update rjb ?
Report undern June 19, 2011 2:13 AM BST
any update rjb ?
Report rjb June 29, 2011 10:05 AM BST
Ok i should have a bit of time now to carry on with my challenge after a hectic few weeks. My bank remains untouched so i will continue from where i left of. Bank stands at £159.44. Lets see how we get on Grin
Report rjb June 29, 2011 10:11 AM BST
Tokyo Verdy v Mito Hollyhock - Lay 3-2 @ 42
Liability £159.08
Potential Profit £3.69 (after comms)
Report undern June 29, 2011 10:12 AM BST
So after 48 days (nearly 7 weeks) - you come back on to continue ..... gee I have been hectic with work as well but I guess not as hectic as you [;)]
Report rjb June 29, 2011 10:19 AM BST
lol thanks for the post undern. Hopefully this should continue now till the goal is reached or it comes to a sad end [;)]
Report undern June 29, 2011 10:55 AM BST
rjb - can you post up your actual bet for me.
Report undern June 29, 2011 11:10 AM BST
These are the current trades on the 3-2 score-line before the match. Just trying to work out where your bet fits into all of this .... do you place your bet before you post on here or after you post on here ?

1.01     
1.02     
1.10     
14.50     
24.00     
25.00   £7
28.00     
29.00   £8
32.00   £9
34.00   £4
40.00   £4
46.00   £0   
70.00   
75.00
Report rjb June 29, 2011 11:20 AM BST
Hi undern, bets are placed b4 the game. It was unmatched, but just got matched as the game went in play.
Report rjb June 29, 2011 11:21 AM BST
and its now 0-2 to the dog which is not good here
Report undern June 29, 2011 12:07 PM BST
Well that was the trades up to the first 10mins or so of the match (just before the 1st goal) .... therefore you are saying that you got matched just as the game went in play.

Good stuff so you are matched ... so can you please post your actual bet up on here as I would like to know what odds you got with your bet.
Report rjb June 30, 2011 9:43 AM BST
Tokyo Verdy v Mito Hollyhock - Lay 3-2 @ 42
Liability £159.08
Potential Profit £3.69 (after comms)

WINNER - Balance £163.13 Grin
Report undern June 30, 2011 9:47 AM BST
That's strange .... the final score was 3-2  in that Tokyo Verdy vs mito Hollyhock match ????? [;)] - so didn't you lose and your run has now ended.
Report letsalldance June 30, 2011 12:38 PM BST
http://www.soccerway.com/matches/2011/06/29/japan/j2-league/
tokyo-verdy-1969/mito-hollyhock/1072986/

indeed Confused
Report undern July 1, 2011 1:17 AM BST
Would be nice to have an answer from you rjb ??
Report undern July 1, 2011 1:40 PM BST
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Report undern July 2, 2011 3:43 PM BST
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Report rjb July 4, 2011 9:26 PM BST
hmmm dunno what happened there, i was in work at the time and took a quick look at the final score and Obviously got it the wrong way round as i looked to total my result. Just checked my balance and my £160 is most definatley gone lol. Oh well the challenge was good while it lasted. Good Luck all Laugh
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