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jonooooo
27 Mar 11 17:42
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I was a layer and backer for the past four years and now i have changed
to trading,i dabbled with it before with trading out of bets to cover my
stake or get a bit of green on both sides..but i got bet angel the other day and
have had two full days trading horses on it,i am still getting used to it but
it,but i have come up with the opinion that you can with out a shadow of bets a doubt
make money by trading horses along with bet angel..please leave your opinion.
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Report jonooooo • March 27, 2011 5:44 PM BST
Sorry about the spelling, i am using an iphone to write this out.
Report hologon • March 27, 2011 8:56 PM BST
good luck to you hope it continues to do well
Report ash cpfc • March 27, 2011 9:08 PM BST
how many trades are you doing a day?
Report jonooooo • March 27, 2011 9:28 PM BST
Dont get me wrong i am getting a few trades against me but i expected it..i basically was on the whole day yesterday and today found leopardstown was a fair bit weeker...i should be rite in assuming that the markets liquidity will be weaker during the week i wasn't really counting how many trades i did but i will be from from now on..i have been laying low and backing high...what way are the markets for trading during the week?
Report LMansini • March 27, 2011 10:05 PM BST
during the week its better to back low and then lay high

this helps to keep a nice balance
Report Trevh • March 28, 2011 12:56 AM BST
As you've asked for opinions Jonooooo, mine is that you've got lucky on your first couple of days, and to proceed with caution because it's odds on that it won't continue to be so easy, but good luck I admire your enthusiasm.
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 1:19 AM BST
ACheers trevh.probably was a bit lucky but sure i going to plough ahead with the plan of trading and see where it goes.i say one thing that bet angel is a great invention...do you do any trading yourself?
Report viva el presidente! • March 28, 2011 1:24 AM BST
my opinion is that it's way too soon for you to have an opinion.
Report Trevh • March 28, 2011 1:29 AM BST
Yes, all day every day lol, but only on football correct score markets, I never touch horses.

I started off using Bet Angel too, but then changed to Gruss as it suited my betting being able to have multiple markets open at once and change between them with just one click, and it's a fair price at only £6 a month compared to BA which was about £90 a quarter I think.
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 1:42 AM BST
Yea. It is expensive but i just got it out of divilment because it will throw in the back or lay automatically.is there any other apps that will do that?What's gruss like?
Report ocean0201 • March 28, 2011 2:06 AM BST
why not use geeks toy which is free and does as good a job as gruss
Report starship • March 28, 2011 9:40 AM BST
hiya
read with the comments with interest
one thing that puzzles is
how does jonooooooo know that LMansini mum is in the shower ?
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 10:36 AM BST
What other applications will do what bet angel do?eg(throw in your trade automatically)
Report johnizere • March 28, 2011 10:54 AM BST
I think gruss does it, it's called 'tick offset' or something like that.
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 11:03 AM BST
Cheers john...
Report greedkillsmybankagain • March 28, 2011 11:04 AM BST
tell us all how your life has changed

"i have come up with the opinion that you can without a shadow of a doubt make money by trading horses"

we gota have dreams
Report Contrarian • March 28, 2011 11:04 AM BST
jonooo,

You really need to create your own trading application using the Betfair API.
Report johnizere • March 28, 2011 11:13 AM BST
To add to the gruss 'tick offset'... it will automatically 'green up' when the price is matched. This is from memory, as I haven't used gruss for some time, since moving to The Toy [;)]
Report THE-POWER • March 28, 2011 12:16 PM BST
have you accounted for the premium charge that will be sprung on you??
Report Sandown • March 28, 2011 12:24 PM BST
trading. has started to change my life aftes my third day at it.



Gosh. Just 3 days, eh to find the Holy Grail! Makes you want to weep.
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 12:43 PM BST
Usually wouldn't tell people about what i do on betfair..as i said was just testing it out over the past Few days.started with a 300 bank on Saturday currently 443 in that bank now and didn't really have to many worries.so going to go along with that bank until aintree if it keeps that long.if does work out i will be making a larger lodgement..should be long enough to make an opinion on it.
Report The_Ocho • March 28, 2011 1:06 PM BST
You're either good at trading or you're not. Some people just have the knack of picking the right way the market will go most times going by trends, experience, weight of money (sometimes), the vibe, gut feeling, whatever - they've just got it.

If you've turned 300 into 443 in 3 days without going in running then congrats. I just hope no outages catches your underwears
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 1:12 PM BST
What's your opinion on going in running?i heard it was to avoided at all costs?
Report The_Ocho • March 28, 2011 1:24 PM BST
You are right. Don't go in running, Avoid it like the plague
Report Contrarian • March 28, 2011 1:25 PM BST
Do go in-running on football and tennis though.
Report The_Ocho • March 28, 2011 1:28 PM BST
I'm in Australia and we can't go in running on anything at all in any country except horse racing everywhere. FFS.

I'd love to go in running on Aussie rules footy
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 1:34 PM BST
..Well i ain't going near in running at all.its hard not to leave it up when the trade goes against ya..but i was told to stay away from it under all circumstances..
Report The_Ocho • March 28, 2011 1:38 PM BST
Don't let ego get in the way of your trading. If the market moves against you get out as quick as you can and red up and just move on to the next race. Going in play to "hopefully" get your money back is a recipe for disaster.

If you can master the fact that you are wrong, shake it off and move on, then you're on the right track.
Report olddesperado • March 28, 2011 2:28 PM BST
can geekstoy be used from a laptop. their homepage mentions desktop software?
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 2:37 PM BST
Not sure about that one oldesperado.johnizere could be the man to answer that question
Report olddesperado • March 28, 2011 2:49 PM BST
thanks anyway
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 4:27 PM BST
Target reached of 40.there was a time i would have kept going.not any more
.i must be getting discipline i hope!!..laptop closed and put away..traders what type of bank
is needed to try and make a proper living????serious answers please.
Report johnizere • March 28, 2011 5:33 PM BST
jonooooo     28 Mar 11 14:37 
Not sure about that one oldesperado.johnizere could be the man to answer that question


I'm no expert, and I've only ever used a laptop!
Report johnizere • March 28, 2011 5:35 PM BST
http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/

should be able to find answers to the meaning of life, in there...
Report TheVis • March 28, 2011 7:47 PM BST
Report back when you've had a bad day or when you have laid a horse and BF goes down and the horse wins and wipes your bank out.  Then it might really change your life.
Report jonooooo • March 28, 2011 8:38 PM BST
Sure vis if that was the case everybody would be afraid to do nothin,dont worry i know i will take a hit somedays,but what i am doing i have some control and as  for fretting bout betfair crashing wouldn't bother me,
Report aye robot • March 28, 2011 9:49 PM BST
What's your opinion on going in running?i heard it was to avoided at all costs?

Don't listen to Contrarian- he's just trying to sucker you in to take your money. Come and play on the horses, we're all lovely over there and will give you money whenever you ask for it. Just wait until you're absolutely definitely certain that you know what's going to win then pile on. I'll be there to lay you. I've got tonnes of money to spare because I part time as Contrarian's butler and I don't care about losing it.
Report jonooooo • March 29, 2011 12:16 PM BST
Aye robot..i am a lovely too..going in running not for me...apart from cricket.when youlaw England at 1.01
against Ireland..
Report The Investor • March 29, 2011 5:36 PM BST
put all your money in football.
Report rod hull • March 30, 2011 3:51 PM BST
come to the tennis with us!
Report marky sparky • March 30, 2011 6:04 PM BST
crickets where it's at Blush
Report BobSievier • March 31, 2011 12:25 PM BST
Feck will be seething
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