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jonooooo
27 Mar 11 17:42
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I was a layer and backer for the past four years and now i have changed
to trading,i dabbled with it before with trading out of bets to cover my
stake or get a bit of green on both sides..but i got bet angel the other day and
have had two full days trading horses on it,i am still getting used to it but
it,but i have come up with the opinion that you can with out a shadow of bets a doubt
make money by trading horses along with bet angel..please leave your opinion.

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By:
jonooooo
When: 27 Mar 11 17:44
Sorry about the spelling, i am using an iphone to write this out.
By:
hologon
When: 27 Mar 11 20:56
good luck to you hope it continues to do well
By:
ash cpfc
When: 27 Mar 11 21:08
how many trades are you doing a day?
By:
jonooooo
When: 27 Mar 11 21:28
Dont get me wrong i am getting a few trades against me but i expected it..i basically was on the whole day yesterday and today found leopardstown was a fair bit weeker...i should be rite in assuming that the markets liquidity will be weaker during the week i wasn't really counting how many trades i did but i will be from from now on..i have been laying low and backing high...what way are the markets for trading during the week?
By:
LMansini
When: 27 Mar 11 22:05
during the week its better to back low and then lay high

this helps to keep a nice balance
By:
Trevh
When: 28 Mar 11 00:56
As you've asked for opinions Jonooooo, mine is that you've got lucky on your first couple of days, and to proceed with caution because it's odds on that it won't continue to be so easy, but good luck I admire your enthusiasm.
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 01:19
ACheers trevh.probably was a bit lucky but sure i going to plough ahead with the plan of trading and see where it goes.i say one thing that bet angel is a great invention...do you do any trading yourself?
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 28 Mar 11 01:24
my opinion is that it's way too soon for you to have an opinion.
By:
Trevh
When: 28 Mar 11 01:29
Yes, all day every day lol, but only on football correct score markets, I never touch horses.

I started off using Bet Angel too, but then changed to Gruss as it suited my betting being able to have multiple markets open at once and change between them with just one click, and it's a fair price at only £6 a month compared to BA which was about £90 a quarter I think.
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 01:42
Yea. It is expensive but i just got it out of divilment because it will throw in the back or lay automatically.is there any other apps that will do that?What's gruss like?
By:
ocean0201
When: 28 Mar 11 02:06
why not use geeks toy which is free and does as good a job as gruss
By:
starship
When: 28 Mar 11 09:40
hiya
read with the comments with interest
one thing that puzzles is
how does jonooooooo know that LMansini mum is in the shower ?
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 10:36
What other applications will do what bet angel do?eg(throw in your trade automatically)
By:
johnizere
When: 28 Mar 11 10:54
I think gruss does it, it's called 'tick offset' or something like that.
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 11:03
Cheers john...
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 28 Mar 11 11:04
tell us all how your life has changed

"i have come up with the opinion that you can without a shadow of a doubt make money by trading horses"

we gota have dreams
By:
Contrarian
When: 28 Mar 11 11:04
jonooo,

You really need to create your own trading application using the Betfair API.
By:
johnizere
When: 28 Mar 11 11:13
To add to the gruss 'tick offset'... it will automatically 'green up' when the price is matched. This is from memory, as I haven't used gruss for some time, since moving to The Toy [;)]
By:
THE-POWER
When: 28 Mar 11 12:16
have you accounted for the premium charge that will be sprung on you??
By:
Sandown
When: 28 Mar 11 12:24
trading. has started to change my life aftes my third day at it.



Gosh. Just 3 days, eh to find the Holy Grail! Makes you want to weep.
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 12:43
Usually wouldn't tell people about what i do on betfair..as i said was just testing it out over the past Few days.started with a 300 bank on Saturday currently 443 in that bank now and didn't really have to many worries.so going to go along with that bank until aintree if it keeps that long.if does work out i will be making a larger lodgement..should be long enough to make an opinion on it.
By:
The_Ocho
When: 28 Mar 11 13:06
You're either good at trading or you're not. Some people just have the knack of picking the right way the market will go most times going by trends, experience, weight of money (sometimes), the vibe, gut feeling, whatever - they've just got it.

If you've turned 300 into 443 in 3 days without going in running then congrats. I just hope no outages catches your underwears
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 13:12
What's your opinion on going in running?i heard it was to avoided at all costs?
By:
The_Ocho
When: 28 Mar 11 13:24
You are right. Don't go in running, Avoid it like the plague
By:
Contrarian
When: 28 Mar 11 13:25
Do go in-running on football and tennis though.
By:
The_Ocho
When: 28 Mar 11 13:28
I'm in Australia and we can't go in running on anything at all in any country except horse racing everywhere. FFS.

I'd love to go in running on Aussie rules footy
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 13:34
..Well i ain't going near in running at all.its hard not to leave it up when the trade goes against ya..but i was told to stay away from it under all circumstances..
By:
The_Ocho
When: 28 Mar 11 13:38
Don't let ego get in the way of your trading. If the market moves against you get out as quick as you can and red up and just move on to the next race. Going in play to "hopefully" get your money back is a recipe for disaster.

If you can master the fact that you are wrong, shake it off and move on, then you're on the right track.
By:
olddesperado
When: 28 Mar 11 14:28
can geekstoy be used from a laptop. their homepage mentions desktop software?
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 14:37
Not sure about that one oldesperado.johnizere could be the man to answer that question
By:
olddesperado
When: 28 Mar 11 14:49
thanks anyway
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 16:27
Target reached of 40.there was a time i would have kept going.not any more
.i must be getting discipline i hope!!..laptop closed and put away..traders what type of bank
is needed to try and make a proper living????serious answers please.
By:
johnizere
When: 28 Mar 11 17:33
jonooooo     28 Mar 11 14:37 
Not sure about that one oldesperado.johnizere could be the man to answer that question


I'm no expert, and I've only ever used a laptop!
By:
johnizere
When: 28 Mar 11 17:35
http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/

should be able to find answers to the meaning of life, in there...
By:
TheVis
When: 28 Mar 11 19:47
Report back when you've had a bad day or when you have laid a horse and BF goes down and the horse wins and wipes your bank out.  Then it might really change your life.
By:
jonooooo
When: 28 Mar 11 20:38
Sure vis if that was the case everybody would be afraid to do nothin,dont worry i know i will take a hit somedays,but what i am doing i have some control and as  for fretting bout betfair crashing wouldn't bother me,
By:
aye robot
When: 28 Mar 11 21:49
What's your opinion on going in running?i heard it was to avoided at all costs?

Don't listen to Contrarian- he's just trying to sucker you in to take your money. Come and play on the horses, we're all lovely over there and will give you money whenever you ask for it. Just wait until you're absolutely definitely certain that you know what's going to win then pile on. I'll be there to lay you. I've got tonnes of money to spare because I part time as Contrarian's butler and I don't care about losing it.
By:
jonooooo
When: 29 Mar 11 12:16
Aye robot..i am a lovely too..going in running not for me...apart from cricket.when youlaw England at 1.01
against Ireland..
By:
The Investor
When: 29 Mar 11 17:36
put all your money in football.
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